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Anvilbrother

After we win this election it's our turn, it's payback time...

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Wasn't 8 years of GWB payback enough for America? Please, let the dems have 4 more years to get this country back on track before giving it back to the Republicans to fuck it all up again. We need to recover and I want to enjoy this world for four more years before it comes to an end. Seriously...
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I think Iraq had a whole lot, and it had nothing to do with 9/11.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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You don't think 9/11/2001 had ANYTHING to do with the state of the economy? That part was out of his hands. Look at any graph from 2001 everything went to fuck.



9/11 didn't cause greedy Wall St. bankers to rape the economy.

An off-budget war had a lot to do with it.
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>This is so classic! This thread has descended into arguing over who is more
>honest when both are dishonest the majority of the time.

Nope. Believe it or not neither one is dishonest on most topics.

Obama mostly false, false or pants on fire: 28%
Romney mostly false, false or pants on fire: 41%

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Cool, now to have something to compare that to, lets get Romney in there, wait 4 years and come back and put his numbers up here:P.


Lets also add some things that Obama did
Record gas prices
Record deficit
Record bipartisanship
Record Unemployment
Record lack of transparency
Record lack of freedoms taken

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.



Uhmm executive order 10990 is from the 60's and establishes the Federal Safety Council.

You really need to do some actual thinking before just cutting and pasting, as hard as that may be :D

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Actually I believe all of those executive orders were from the 1960's; most signed by JFK, according to this list from the Archives.
Snopes link here

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Billvon once posted a link to Snopes for when you get a chain email that's particularly juicy-looking. That's still a good idea.

Even if the email is really really great, if it's inaccurate, forwarding makes one look like a credulous fool; the kind of guy who really does believe that Walmart wants to give them $1000.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Its a shame Obama is on tape saying he will have more flexibility to get in bed with Russia once re elected.

Its a shame Obama's wife was only proud of America once her husband was elected

Its a shame Obama is on tape laughing about job ready jobs not being so job ready as he promised.

Its a shame Obama wrote in his book that he used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow".) but writes that he didn't try heroin because -- wait for it -- he didn't like the pusher who was selling it. Which he admitted to the International Herald Tribune it was true in, October 25, 2006

Its a shame Obama lied about if the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it “would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress

Its a shame

Obama- “For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- Wrong in 2009, and wrong today)

Obama- “Thirty million Americans, including a lot of people in Florida, are going to be able to get healthcare next year because of that law.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “I made a bunch of these promises during the campaign. … We’ve got about 60 percent done in three years.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- “In the Works” does not equal “done”)

Obama Admin.- Under President Barack Obama, the United States has “doubled our exports.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama Admin.- The president’s proposed budget “will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-A mangled reference to a prior talking point)

Obama- Under the White House’s budget proposal, “we will not be adding more to the national debt” by the middle of the decade.
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Revenue would equal outlays, but he ignores growing interest on the debt)

Obama- Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected “the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Score two to two on judges’ decisions on constitionality)

Obama- “I didn’t raise taxes once.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-We’ve tracked a few increases)

Obama- When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, “it only affected widows and orphans,” and when Medicare began, “it was a small program.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-A grain of truth in the big picture, far off on the details)

Obama- The Bush administration had been “giving (auto companies) billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Big donors bankrolled much of Obama’s campaign)

Obama- “We’ve excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-We found at least four)

Obama- When Obama was interviewed by American reporters in Asia, “Not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-More than one did)

Obama- Insurers delayed an Illinois man’s treatment, “and he died because of it.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(Insurer’s decision was reversed and man lived three more years)

Obama- Health reform will “give every American the same opportunity” to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- Preventive care “saves money.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Covering preventive care for everyone is a net cost)

Obama- (No earmarks in spending bill)
Truth-O-Meter rating: False




please cite your sources

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The first sentence of that post is already misleading at best and plain wrong at worst.

You have been shown to just blindly cut and paste without any form of fact checking

Why would anybody put any effort into discussing what you post, when you cannot even put any effort in before posting?

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