dreamdancer 0 #1 January 30, 2012 get those jackboots on... QuoteYesterday, the Oakland Police deployed hundreds of officers in riot gear so as to prevent Occupy Oakland from putting a building, vacant for 6 years with no plans for use, from being occupied and “re-purposed” as a community center. The Occupy Oakland GA passed a proposal calling for the space to be turned into a social center, convergence center and headquarters of the Occupy Oakland movement. The police actions tonight cost the city of Oakland hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they repeatedly violated their own crowd control guidelines and protesters civil rights. With all the problems in our city, should preventing activists from putting a vacant building to better use be their highest priority? Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent? http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/01/29/city-of-oaklands-increasing-hostility-toward-occupy-movement/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 January 30, 2012 "Whatever qualms people have with Occupy Oakland, it's the police who have committed the most egregious violence," said Scott Johnson, a 34-year-old Oakland resident. "They instigated the violence by not allowing us to take over an unused building." Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/29/BA4T1N07OE.DTL#ixzz1kweEGjks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #3 January 30, 2012 Surely at least a couple of members of the Occupy Party are property owners. Maybe they could offer their homes or business places to serve as party HQ. They could even rotate the meeting place among themselves to keep from placing a burden on one or two members. We did that with an organization I belonged to and it worked out very well. Just a suggestion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 January 30, 2012 Quoteget those jackboots on... QuoteYesterday, the Oakland Police deployed hundreds of officers in riot gear so as to prevent Occupy Oakland from putting a building, vacant for 6 years with no plans for use, from being occupied and “re-purposed” as a community center. The Occupy Oakland GA passed a proposal calling for the space to be turned into a social center, convergence center and headquarters of the Occupy Oakland movement. The police actions tonight cost the city of Oakland hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they repeatedly violated their own crowd control guidelines and protesters civil rights. With all the problems in our city, should preventing activists from putting a vacant building to better use be their highest priority? Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent? http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/01/29/city-of-oaklands-increasing-hostility-toward-occupy-movement/ If they want the building so bad, let them buy it instead of trespassing.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #5 January 30, 2012 Maybe they would buy it but they're waiting on that BIG check from the 1%-ers. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 January 30, 2012 Quote"They instigated the violence by not allowing us to take over an unused building." sure, that whole little "stealing, breaking, entering, trespassing" thing really doesn't matter at all. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #7 January 30, 2012 Yeah, that is what happened, the Police started it! Way to miss the mark! But once again you started a discussion!, True your post was 100% BS, but you started a discussion, kudos. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #8 January 30, 2012 Quote Quote "They instigated the violence by not allowing us to take over an unused building." sure, that whole little "stealing, breaking, entering, trespassing" thing really doesn't matter at all. The 'occupiers' are nothing more than a blight on our society. They try to justify their cause, whatever that is, by squatting homes and buldings. They are nothing more than an organized group of criminals and need to be treated as such. Instead of calling police, someone needs to call ORKIN!!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #9 January 30, 2012 QuoteIn many countries, squatting is in itself a crime; in others, it is only seen as a civil conflict between the owner and the occupants. Property law and the state have traditionally favored the property owner. However, in many cases where squatters had de facto ownership, laws have been changed to legitimize their status. Squatters often claim rights over the spaces they have squatted by virtue of occupation, rather than ownership; in this sense, squatting is similar to (and potentially a necessary condition of) adverse possession, by which a possessor of real property without title may eventually gain legal title to the real property. Anarchist Colin Ward comments: "Squatting is the oldest mode of tenure in the world, and we are all descended from squatters. This is as true of the Queen [of the United Kingdom] with her 176,000 acres (710 km2) as it is of the 54 percent of householders in Britain who are owner-occupiers. They are all the ultimate recipients of stolen land, for to regard our planet as a commodity offends every conceivable principle of natural rights." Besides being residences, some squats are used as social centres or host give-away shops, pirate radio stations or cafés. In Spanish-speaking countries, squatters receive several names, such as okupas in Spain, Chile or Argentina (from the verb ocupar meaning "to occupy"), or paracaidistas in Mexico (meaning "paratroopers", because they "parachute" themselves at unoccupied land). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squattingstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #10 January 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteget those jackboots on... QuoteYesterday, the Oakland Police deployed hundreds of officers in riot gear so as to prevent Occupy Oakland from putting a building, vacant for 6 years with no plans for use, from being occupied and “re-purposed” as a community center. The Occupy Oakland GA passed a proposal calling for the space to be turned into a social center, convergence center and headquarters of the Occupy Oakland movement. The police actions tonight cost the city of Oakland hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they repeatedly violated their own crowd control guidelines and protesters civil rights. With all the problems in our city, should preventing activists from putting a vacant building to better use be their highest priority? Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent? http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/01/29/city-of-oaklands-increasing-hostility-toward-occupy-movement/ If they want the building so bad, let them buy it instead of trespassing. This squatting thing is not just a problem with the low-life occupiers. Fort Worth, Texas is having a big problem with squatters taking ownership of high-end homes. A house is picked out by a squatter. The owners leave for the day only to come home to someone taking-up residence in the home. The squatter files legal paper work for the home and the home becomes theirs. This is happening all over this country. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #11 January 30, 2012 QuoteThe owners leave for the day only to come home to someone taking-up residence in the home. The squatter files legal paper work for the home and the home becomes theirs. Technically, there appear to be a few additional hoops to jumps through (such as a 3-year waiting period and keeping current on taxes); but the essence of what you're describing is correct, and is detailed in this article I found (I Googled (squatters ft. worth) ): http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/04/3568832/squatters-claim-more-than-8-million.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #12 January 30, 2012 Quote Maybe they would buy it but they're waiting on that BIG check from the 1%-ers. Chuck then most of them just need to ask Dad or grandpa "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #13 January 30, 2012 QuoteThe law's intent was to help ranchers and others who had tended vacant land for years, so they could eventually gain legal ownership of the property. That's done by filing a document called an adverse possession affidavit with the county clerk. http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/04/3568832/squatters-claim-more-than-8-million.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 January 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe owners leave for the day only to come home to someone taking-up residence in the home. The squatter files legal paper work for the home and the home becomes theirs. Technically, there appear to be a few additional hoops to jumps through (such as a 3-year waiting period and keeping current on taxes); but the essence of what you're describing is correct, and is detailed in this article I found (I Googled (squatters ft. worth) ): http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/04/3568832/squatters-claim-more-than-8-million.html Yessir! That is the exact same article I got my information from. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #15 January 30, 2012 Quote Quote Maybe they would buy it but they're waiting on that BIG check from the 1%-ers. Chuck then most of them just need to ask Dad or grandpa That too! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fernjack455 0 #16 January 30, 2012 Quoteget those jackboots on... QuoteYesterday, the Oakland Police deployed hundreds of officers in riot gear so as to prevent Occupy Oakland from putting a building, vacant for 6 years with no plans for use, from being occupied and “re-purposed” as a community center. The Occupy Oakland GA passed a proposal calling for the space to be turned into a social center, convergence center and headquarters of the Occupy Oakland movement. The police actions tonight cost the city of Oakland hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they repeatedly violated their own crowd control guidelines and protesters civil rights. With all the problems in our city, should preventing activists from putting a vacant building to better use be their highest priority? Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent? http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/01/29/city-of-oaklands-increasing-hostility-toward-occupy-movement/ Why not put up something important like the *jackboots* at work in Syria? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #17 January 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteget those jackboots on... QuoteYesterday, the Oakland Police deployed hundreds of officers in riot gear so as to prevent Occupy Oakland from putting a building, vacant for 6 years with no plans for use, from being occupied and “re-purposed” as a community center. The Occupy Oakland GA passed a proposal calling for the space to be turned into a social center, convergence center and headquarters of the Occupy Oakland movement. The police actions tonight cost the city of Oakland hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they repeatedly violated their own crowd control guidelines and protesters civil rights. With all the problems in our city, should preventing activists from putting a vacant building to better use be their highest priority? Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent? http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/01/29/city-of-oaklands-increasing-hostility-toward-occupy-movement/ Why not put up something important like the *jackboots* at work in Syria? He'd rather post news articles about a bunch of law breaking' lazy, dead-beat, low-life SOB's trying to leech off our society and steal a free ride at other's expense. SSDD... Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #18 January 30, 2012 QuoteWhy not put up something important like the *jackboots* at work in Syria? Why not stop your childish trolling as moderators have requested of you? Oh, and hiding behind another IP only gets you so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #19 January 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe law's intent was to help ranchers and others who had tended vacant land for years, so they could eventually gain legal ownership of the property. That's done by filing a document called an adverse possession affidavit with the county clerk. http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/04/3568832/squatters-claim-more-than-8-million.html I read it... the entire news story... what's your point? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #20 January 30, 2012 Again these violent tea baggers clash with police, when will it end?The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #21 January 30, 2012 Here's a thought... Tent 'cities' could be set-up for all those germs, on the Mojave. Feed 'em bread and water and give 'em an old Army cot to sleep on. They would not be able to leave or have visitors. This would make for jobs for those guarding them and feeding them. They'd have food, water, shelter and it'd all be FREE... just what they are wanting! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,724 #22 January 30, 2012 >Tent 'cities' could be set-up for all those germs, on the Mojave. Feed 'em bread and >water and give 'em an old Army cot to sleep on. They would not be able to leave or >have visitors. They'd have food, water, shelter and it'd all be FREE... You've just described Burning Man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarco 0 #23 January 30, 2012 Most GAs are - I hope - are built for the effect of team work - and direction- using a building and getting a support system for better and future options is something local Governments are sopposed to be looking for and premoting - we are supposed to be living in a networked country were hard travil and low income and none traid is a thing of the past- when cops stop aiding the builder theme for safe township - people need to start looking for drug use and false future promise - that - military side - "" has everything to do with your DNA and why a police state and actions of communisim are bent about lieing about technoledgy and health- when good old boys play first gun and the local feel falls through the ground - the Mizer Mayor and the "un" Police chief - are at lock out plane - - meaning they are about to do something that the federal Gov would not normaly would not allow - most of the time this has to do with a diffent form of space travel - They have to lie their @#!*% off to the people they leave behind - Check our bourders face mask?? I saw this happen in Europe- It fails when the the actual country works against it - cheap tricks is all I see when I see a toy badge! Having something never beats doing (>|<) Iam building things - Iam working on my mind- I am going to change this world - its what I came here 4- - - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #24 January 30, 2012 Quote >Tent 'cities' could be set-up for all those germs, on the Mojave. Feed 'em bread and >water and give 'em an old Army cot to sleep on. They would not be able to leave or >have visitors. They'd have food, water, shelter and it'd all be FREE... You've just described Burning Man. They're not going to get me for any infringement violations... are they? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fernjack455 0 #25 January 30, 2012 paranoid...?No Moderater has ever asked me to do shit. Delusional too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
