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He is not electable

I am watching the Iowa debate tonight



He looks less than smart

I am disappointed [:/]
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He looks less than smart



Great, looks like he might actually have a chance then...

It's gonna be a nice payoff...22k+ on 45/1.

Even if I lose, I'll makeup that 500 on local elections alone.
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You're just now coming to that conclusion?

Had you never seen him speak before?



Tonight is the first time I have listened to Ron Paul. RP is out of touch with the reality of, not only America, but modern times. His foreign policy sounds eerily like Neville Chamberlain's triumph, circa 1939, in Munich.

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"He looks less than smart" - opinion

If you could point out something he said that was wrong or stupid, and not just a philosophical difference you disagree with, I would be open to hearing it.




http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-65.pdf

Follow the link to the IAEA report of November 8, 2011. The report which Ron said Bachman was lying about. Read it, and see for yourself how far along in the heavy water arena Iran is. Heavy water= atomic weapons.

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The irony of your username for me is hilarious.

She proclaimed that the IAEA report said they were months away from a Nuclear weapon, and therefore we should be gearing up to engage them in war. He said the IAEA report didn't say that, it only implied it and it implied it through shoddy and suspect logical reasoning.

Again, you disagree philosophically with his philosophy that we should stop being the world police. Fine, then say that, but call him stupid. I for one don't think that a nation being in possession of heavy water should ever be grounds for an act of aggression by the United States.

The men and women who are on the front lines of these wars we are in overwhelmingly support this man. The established political entities in this country seem to be determined to convince us that he is un-electable. And even if you challenge those assertions, you cannot deny that of all candidates, Obama included, Ron Paul is determined to avoid another war. I will vote for Ron Paul for that reason alone. The blood of too many innocents in on all of our hands, when our government takes our money and wages war in our name and kills innocents, the blood is on our hands.

Say no to war, say yes to Ron.

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When he opens his mouth regarding foreign policy

Oh, and we all for opinions and pick who we are going to vote for
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>>"He looks less than smart" - opinion

>If you could point out something he said that was wrong or stupid . . .

Nothing. He's just not good at sound bites or snappy sayings - and thus is not an option for the GOP nomination.



it is the Dems who consistently bitch about those who do not talk as eloquently as they think they should.

The irony of you post is obvious
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>>"He looks less than smart" - opinion

>If you could point out something he said that was wrong or stupid . . .

Nothing. He's just not good at sound bites or snappy sayings - and thus is not an option for the GOP nomination.



it is the Dems who consistently bitch about those who do not talk as eloquently as they think they should.

The irony of you post is obvious


Well lets me more clear, Dems only bitch at those who speak without prepaired statements written for them and delivered by a telepromter. Take away Obama's telepromter and he is a blethering idiot.

Smartest man to ever grace the White House my ASS>:(

Now off to do a little Tebowing in support of Two High School students (New York) being suspended for doing the TEBOW....Must be some DEM Wit DUM ASS OBAMA Supporter who pulled this crap out of their ASS.>:(

"They may take your right to engage in Tebowing, but they can’t take…YOUR TEBOWWWWWWWWW!!!":)

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The irony of your username for me is hilarious.

She proclaimed that the IAEA report said they were months away from a Nuclear weapon, and therefore we should be gearing up to engage them in war. He said the IAEA report didn't say that, it only implied it and it implied it through shoddy and suspect logical reasoning.

Again, you disagree philosophically with his philosophy that we should stop being the world police. Fine, then say that, but call him stupid. I for one don't think that a nation being in possession of heavy water should ever be grounds for an act of aggression by the United States.

The men and women who are on the front lines of these wars we are in overwhelmingly support this man. The established political entities in this country seem to be determined to convince us that he is un-electable. And even if you challenge those assertions, you cannot deny that of all candidates, Obama included, Ron Paul is determined to avoid another war. I will vote for Ron Paul for that reason alone. The blood of too many innocents in on all of our hands, when our government takes our money and wages war in our name and kills innocents, the blood is on our hands.

Say no to war, say yes to Ron.



Ron Paul called MB a liar, saying the report didn't exist. Ron Paul, like Neville chamberlain, says clearly that he is an appeaser. The 25 million killed in WW2 offer grim testimony to the folly of Chamberlain's philosophy. RP has no solutions other than to run away, or nonsensically apply a standard of negotiation unilaterally with renegade, oppressive , dictatorial, governments and terrorist organizations as if they were honorable established lawful governments. Ridiculous.
There were no "implied' conclusions in the IAEA report I read. The report was too concise and mentioned only established events confirmed by either Iranian communique, or confirmed written observations and field reports from IAEA specialists.
As far as the heavy water in the hands of an outlaw nation that is an established exporter of world wide terrorism, the reader, may draw their own conclusions as to what end the Iranians are headed. The UN, and it's Security Council, including the Russians and Chinese disagree with your evaluation. Check out the Security Council diary if you wish.
Being a veteran and also active in many Veterans events every year in Washington DC, Ft. Campbell, Ft. Bragg, and around the nation I disagree with your "overwhelming support" claim. I haven't seen it or witnessed anything that would bear out your statement from my interactions with our active duty troops..
I don't know who the "established political entities" are that you claim to know about. Yes, we agree that RP is determined to avoid another war. His 1960's, hippy-esque view of the world would be laughable, except that too many troopers die and end up in wheel chairs or missing limbs exactly because of attitudes like his.
RP's answer to dealing with an enemy, who has already killed US service members, is unknown. When asked, he goes off on a prepackaged quasi-speech about avoiding war. RP doesn't answer how he would protect the nation as president, other than to to start spouting antiwar gibberish when he was asked the question.
I don't think RP is stupid. Misguided, unaware, uninformed, egotistical....... I'm positive that he is a dandy grandfather.
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The irony of your username for me is hilarious.

She proclaimed that the IAEA report said they were months away from a Nuclear weapon, and therefore we should be gearing up to engage them in war. He said the IAEA report didn't say that, it only implied it and it implied it through shoddy and suspect logical reasoning.

Again, you disagree philosophically with his philosophy that we should stop being the world police. Fine, then say that, but call him stupid. I for one don't think that a nation being in possession of heavy water should ever be grounds for an act of aggression by the United States.

The men and women who are on the front lines of these wars we are in overwhelmingly support this man. The established political entities in this country seem to be determined to convince us that he is un-electable. And even if you challenge those assertions, you cannot deny that of all candidates, Obama included, Ron Paul is determined to avoid another war. I will vote for Ron Paul for that reason alone. The blood of too many innocents in on all of our hands, when our government takes our money and wages war in our name and kills innocents, the blood is on our hands.

Say no to war, say yes to Ron.



Ron Paul called MB a liar, saying the report didn't exist. Ron Paul, like Neville chamberlain, says clearly that he is an appeaser. The 25 million killed in WW2 offer grim testimony to the folly of Chamberlain's philosophy. RP has no solutions other than to run away, or nonsensically apply a standard of negotiation unilaterally with renegade, oppressive , dictatorial, governments and terrorist organizations as if they were honorable established lawful governments. Ridiculous.
There were no "implied' conclusions in the IAEA report I read. The report was too concise and mentioned only established events confirmed by either Iranian communique, or confirmed written observations and field reports from IAEA specialists.
As far as the heavy water in the hands of an outlaw nation that is an established exporter of world wide terrorism, the reader, may draw their own conclusions as to what end the Iranians are headed. The UN, and it's Security Council, including the Russians and Chinese disagree with your evaluation. Check out the Security Council diary if you wish.
Being a veteran and also active in many Veterans events every year in Washington DC, Ft. Campbell, Ft. Bragg, and around the nation I disagree with your "overwhelming support" claim. I haven't seen it or witnessed anything that would bear out your statement from my interactions with our active duty troops..
I don't know who the "established political entities" are that you claim to know about. Yes, we agree that RP is determined to avoid another war. His 1960's, hippy-esque view of the world would be laughable, except that too many troopers die and end up in wheel chairs or missing limbs exactly because of attitudes like his.
RP's answer to dealing with an enemy, who has already killed US service members, is unknown. When asked, he goes off on a prepackaged quasi-speech about avoiding war. RP doesn't answer how he would protect the nation as president, other than to to start spouting antiwar gibberish when he was asked the question.
I don't think RP is stupid. Misguided, unaware, uninformed, egotistical....... I'm positive that he is a dandy grandfather.
Voting is the best thing for all of us to do.



Not sure, but Ron Paul, did he mention that the attacks on the WTC were an Inside Job? Meet the man on two seperate occassions, but I can't find it within me to support him as a President.

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The irony of your username for me is hilarious.

She proclaimed that the IAEA report said they were months away from a Nuclear weapon, and therefore we should be gearing up to engage them in war. He said the IAEA report didn't say that, it only implied it and it implied it through shoddy and suspect logical reasoning.

Again, you disagree philosophically with his philosophy that we should stop being the world police. Fine, then say that, but call him stupid. I for one don't think that a nation being in possession of heavy water should ever be grounds for an act of aggression by the United States.

The men and women who are on the front lines of these wars we are in overwhelmingly support this man. The established political entities in this country seem to be determined to convince us that he is un-electable. And even if you challenge those assertions, you cannot deny that of all candidates, Obama included, Ron Paul is determined to avoid another war. I will vote for Ron Paul for that reason alone. The blood of too many innocents in on all of our hands, when our government takes our money and wages war in our name and kills innocents, the blood is on our hands.

Say no to war, say yes to Ron.



Ron Paul called MB a liar, saying the report didn't exist. Ron Paul, like Neville chamberlain, says clearly that he is an appeaser. The 25 million killed in WW2 offer grim testimony to the folly of Chamberlain's philosophy. RP has no solutions other than to run away, or nonsensically apply a standard of negotiation unilaterally with renegade, oppressive , dictatorial, governments and terrorist organizations as if they were honorable established lawful governments. Ridiculous.
There were no "implied' conclusions in the IAEA report I read. The report was too concise and mentioned only established events confirmed by either Iranian communique, or confirmed written observations and field reports from IAEA specialists.
As far as the heavy water in the hands of an outlaw nation that is an established exporter of world wide terrorism, the reader, may draw their own conclusions as to what end the Iranians are headed. The UN, and it's Security Council, including the Russians and Chinese disagree with your evaluation. Check out the Security Council diary if you wish.
Being a veteran and also active in many Veterans events every year in Washington DC, Ft. Campbell, Ft. Bragg, and around the nation I disagree with your "overwhelming support" claim. I haven't seen it or witnessed anything that would bear out your statement from my interactions with our active duty troops..
I don't know who the "established political entities" are that you claim to know about. Yes, we agree that RP is determined to avoid another war. His 1960's, hippy-esque view of the world would be laughable, except that too many troopers die and end up in wheel chairs or missing limbs exactly because of attitudes like his.
RP's answer to dealing with an enemy, who has already killed US service members, is unknown. When asked, he goes off on a prepackaged quasi-speech about avoiding war. RP doesn't answer how he would protect the nation as president, other than to to start spouting antiwar gibberish when he was asked the question.
I don't think RP is stupid. Misguided, unaware, uninformed, egotistical....... I'm positive that he is a dandy grandfather.
Voting is the best thing for all of us to do.



Not sure, but Ron Paul, did he mention that the attacks on the WTC were an Inside Job? Meet the man on two seperate occassions, but I can't find it within me to support him as a President.



Excellent.......!!! You have actually met RP. Please share with we readers here your impressions. I have never met him, but I also know that what we see on the tube is not the total package.
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You're just now coming to that conclusion?

Had you never seen him speak before?



Tonight is the first time I have listened to Ron Paul. RP is out of touch with the reality of, not only America, but modern times. His foreign policy sounds eerily like Neville Chamberlain's triumph, circa 1939, in Munich.



Food for thought... More of our servicemen and women support Ron Paul over any other GOP candidate and also more than Obama. I'll trust their opinions on foreign policy more than anyone else's for that matter.

The guy definitely has a different approach, but his points are well thought out if you actually listen to his arguments, unlike everyone else who just panders the fears of the general public because we've always been told to think a certain a way.

Its not like the guy can be president forever and completely demilitarize the world. But we are in a budget crisis that cannot be touched, until we start to drastically pull back our military influence.

I'll never understand how anybody could say Ron Paul doesn't have a clue. He's the only damned GOP candidate we've had in a long time that actually has a freakin clue. The rest that think we can somehow touch our budget crisis without drastically changing our foreign policy are living in la la land. The future consequences of our current budget crisis and impending economic collapse is far beyond what a handful of boogeymen in the middle east could ever accomplish against our country.



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More of our servicemen and women support Ron Paul over any other GOP candidate and also more than Obama. I'll trust their opinions on foreign policy more than anyone else's for that matter.



Seriously? You think the military should dictate foreign policy?



Perhaps I worded that poorly. Dictate it, absolutely not. Should their opinion be taken into consideration when we are discussing presidential candidate's views on foreign policy? Um yeah, at least more than my dumbass who's only foreign policy experience is my 3 yrs on an airforce contract and the vast knowledge I've gained from speakers corner.



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More of our servicemen and women support Ron Paul over any other GOP candidate and also more than Obama. I'll trust their opinions on foreign policy more than anyone else's for that matter.



Seriously? You think the military should dictate foreign policy?



Seriously? You think "trust their opinion" = "dictate policy"?

Seriously? You think "servicemen and women" (individuals that typically interface more with foreign cultures than others) = "the military" (the establishment)?



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no you didn't. it's just the strawmen are so much fun

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More of our servicemen and women support Ron Paul over any other GOP candidate and also more than Obama. I'll trust their opinions on foreign policy more than anyone else's for that matter.



Seriously? You think the military should dictate foreign policy?



Seriously? You think "trust their opinion" = "dictate policy"?

Seriously? You think "servicemen and women" (individuals that typically interface more with foreign cultures than others) = "the military" (the establishment)?



Thank you. Your response was a little better than mine.



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Seriously? You think "trust their opinion" = "dictate policy"?



lol, obviously in your haste in trying to slam me, you didn't read the whole quote.

When sombody states that, on foreign policy, they trust the opinion of servicemen and women more than anyone else's, it is a fair question to ask.

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You think "servicemen and women" (individuals that typically interface more with foreign cultures than others) = "the military" (the establishment)?



Pretty sure that establishment is made up of service men and women.

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