dreamdancer 0 #26 August 6, 2011 Quote >i predict they'll still have jobs in 2 weeks . . . Probably. In 2 years? Probably not. they'll have jobs and the benefit of union membership for a lot longer than that (no matter how you wish it otherwise)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #27 August 6, 2011 Quote Quote Quote though at the moment they have both jobs and union membership so good news Are you perchance suggesting that enforced union membership is a good idea? WOW uh, they voted for the union... Not ALL of them. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #28 August 6, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote though at the moment they have both jobs and union membership so good news Are you perchance suggesting that enforced union membership is a good idea? WOW uh, they voted for the union... Not ALL of them. that's democracy for you stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,470 #29 August 6, 2011 >You are loosing it! Yep. I'm a lunatic extremist right winger who hates the common man and just wants to line his wallet on the backs of workers. >IKEA has the MOST appealing design, at the MOST appealing price point! WHAT? How can this be, given that until now they haven't had a unionized workforce here in the US? Now admit you're a right winger who hates the workers too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #30 August 6, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi And I don't even want to talk about the Indian or Chinese heavyweights... Suffice it to say that Aldi prevented Walmart from getting any foot-hold in Continental Europe. Walmart exited some three years ago w/ their tail thoroughly up their ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #31 August 6, 2011 Quote>You are loosing it! Yep. I'm a lunatic extremist right winger! about time you realised it...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #32 August 6, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote though at the moment they have both jobs and union membership so good news Are you perchance suggesting that enforced union membership is a good idea? WOW uh, they voted for the union... Not ALL of them. Hey! that's democracy! It's gonna get even better with "card check". That way we will all know who the anti-demokratische scumbags are that vote against the union. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanJohnson 0 #33 August 7, 2011 ***Yep. I'm a lunatic extremist right winger who hates the common man and just wants to line his wallet on the backs of workers.Quote Well you did lie about the capability of cellphones on 9-11-01. Or you were lying when years later you stated that you were involved with the development of a product which would make cellphone calls possible from commercial aircraft? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #34 August 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote though at the moment they have both jobs and union membership so good news Are you perchance suggesting that enforced union membership is a good idea? WOW uh, they voted for the union... Not ALL of them. that's democracy for you So the portion that voted against union representation do not have to join the union or pay an agency fee to keep their job?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #35 August 7, 2011 a substantial majority of workers voted for the creation of a union - democracy in action stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jclalor 12 #36 August 7, 2011 Fuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #37 August 7, 2011 QuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. Damn those socialists.. I bet they actually have health care as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #38 August 7, 2011 Quote I bet they actually have health care as well. While it lasts, which will be until they run out of other people's money.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hwt 0 #39 August 7, 2011 Who receives the dues ? Is the Hoffa family running things still? I worked for the union ( Mob) in a casino in Las Vegas in high school . ( cost me 50 dollars a month extortion fee ). The Democrats get funds from the unions and the unions get tax payer dollars in return... total corruption. Unions generate laziness and lower productivity . 35% lower in Greece. Ban all public sector unions . ( no checks and balances ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #40 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuote I bet they actually have health care as well. While it lasts, which will be until they run out of other people's money. You are the one wanting to give all the money to the corporations. At least THEIR corporations make sure their workers have basic human dignity with their jobs... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #41 August 7, 2011 Quote You are the one wanting to give all the money to the corporations. Where do you get that? You're showing a marked tendency to see things in black and white.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #42 August 7, 2011 Quote a substantial majority of workers voted for the creation of a union - democracy in action ...and have denied the rest the freedom of choice to work for whom they wish and to negotiate their own wages. If that is democracy then you can keep it.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #43 August 7, 2011 Quote If that is democracy then you can keep it. It's actual mob rule (no pun intended).We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #44 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuote You are the one wanting to give all the money to the corporations. Where do you get that? You're showing a marked tendency to see things in black and white. Gee a history of tea bagging point by point posts... you do realize where the money behind all those tea bagging organizations is coming from don't you??? Grass roots?????? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jclalor 12 #45 August 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote a substantial majority of workers voted for the creation of a union - democracy in action ...and have denied the rest the freedom of choice to work for whom they wish and to negotiate their own wages. If that is democracy then you can keep it. Freedom to negotiate their own wage? 8 dollars an hour? How much negotiating do you think went on? $16,000 a year, what fool started the other thread about the American middle class vanishing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airdvr 200 #46 August 7, 2011 How quickly we lose the OP's point. Union VICTORY is proclaimed. In order to have a victor you must have some entity lose. In this caes it's IKEA. As is all too often the case companies will go looking elsewhere for a more friendly place to produce their goods. Might happen, might not happen. I used to live in N. Canton, Ohio. Their claim to fame was the headquarters of the Hoover Co. You know, the vacuum people. The union won alot of victories there too.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites muff528 3 #47 August 7, 2011 QuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. Looks like some businesses in Sweden are outsourcing some manufacturing jobs overseas to the US for cheap labor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #48 August 7, 2011 QuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. The US is now Sweden's Mexico.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #49 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. The US is now Sweden's Mexico. Ole'. . .Now Cinco De Mayo will be a more legitimate holiday._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites muff528 3 #50 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. 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Belgian_Draft 0 #34 August 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote though at the moment they have both jobs and union membership so good news Are you perchance suggesting that enforced union membership is a good idea? WOW uh, they voted for the union... Not ALL of them. that's democracy for you So the portion that voted against union representation do not have to join the union or pay an agency fee to keep their job?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #35 August 7, 2011 a substantial majority of workers voted for the creation of a union - democracy in action stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #36 August 7, 2011 Fuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 August 7, 2011 QuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. Damn those socialists.. I bet they actually have health care as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #38 August 7, 2011 Quote I bet they actually have health care as well. While it lasts, which will be until they run out of other people's money.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #39 August 7, 2011 Who receives the dues ? Is the Hoffa family running things still? I worked for the union ( Mob) in a casino in Las Vegas in high school . ( cost me 50 dollars a month extortion fee ). The Democrats get funds from the unions and the unions get tax payer dollars in return... total corruption. Unions generate laziness and lower productivity . 35% lower in Greece. Ban all public sector unions . ( no checks and balances ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #40 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuote I bet they actually have health care as well. While it lasts, which will be until they run out of other people's money. You are the one wanting to give all the money to the corporations. At least THEIR corporations make sure their workers have basic human dignity with their jobs... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #41 August 7, 2011 Quote You are the one wanting to give all the money to the corporations. Where do you get that? You're showing a marked tendency to see things in black and white.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #42 August 7, 2011 Quote a substantial majority of workers voted for the creation of a union - democracy in action ...and have denied the rest the freedom of choice to work for whom they wish and to negotiate their own wages. If that is democracy then you can keep it.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #43 August 7, 2011 Quote If that is democracy then you can keep it. It's actual mob rule (no pun intended).We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #44 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuote You are the one wanting to give all the money to the corporations. Where do you get that? You're showing a marked tendency to see things in black and white. Gee a history of tea bagging point by point posts... you do realize where the money behind all those tea bagging organizations is coming from don't you??? Grass roots?????? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #45 August 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote a substantial majority of workers voted for the creation of a union - democracy in action ...and have denied the rest the freedom of choice to work for whom they wish and to negotiate their own wages. If that is democracy then you can keep it. Freedom to negotiate their own wage? 8 dollars an hour? How much negotiating do you think went on? $16,000 a year, what fool started the other thread about the American middle class vanishing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #46 August 7, 2011 How quickly we lose the OP's point. Union VICTORY is proclaimed. In order to have a victor you must have some entity lose. In this caes it's IKEA. As is all too often the case companies will go looking elsewhere for a more friendly place to produce their goods. Might happen, might not happen. I used to live in N. Canton, Ohio. Their claim to fame was the headquarters of the Hoover Co. You know, the vacuum people. The union won alot of victories there too.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #47 August 7, 2011 QuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. Looks like some businesses in Sweden are outsourcing some manufacturing jobs overseas to the US for cheap labor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #48 August 7, 2011 QuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. The US is now Sweden's Mexico.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #49 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. The US is now Sweden's Mexico. Ole'. . .Now Cinco De Mayo will be a more legitimate holiday._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #50 August 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteFuck Ikea, sounds like they would be better off with out them. QuoteLaborers in Swedwood plants in Sweden produce bookcases and tables similar to those manufactured in Danville. The big difference is that the Europeans enjoy a minimum wage of about $19 an hour and a government-mandated five weeks of paid vacation. Full-time employees in Danville start at $8 an hour with 12 vacation days — eight of them on dates determined by the company. What's more, as many as one-third of the workers at the Danville plant have been drawn from local temporary-staffing agencies. These workers receive even lower wages and no benefits, employees said. The US is now Sweden's Mexico. ...and not too much longer until we're Mexico's Mexico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
