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So.. I really have to ask.. how many of all you self professed "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" could actually live in a world where there were no government intrusion and only the strong survive???



Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.

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So.. I really have to ask.. how many of all you self professed "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" could actually live in a world where there were no government intrusion and only the strong survive???



Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.



Damn! Tell em how you really feel! :o

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So.. I really have to ask.. how many of all you self professed "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" could actually live in a world where there were no government intrusion and only the strong survive???



Personally I think yall are full of shit...



And I think its fairly self-evident you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Libertarians ARE Anarchists. Only in the US does Libertarian mean the exact opposite of its traditional meaning.

So if we put the stupidity of US-Libertarianism aside which is idiotic bullshit that calls for an actual free market and is the strong VS the weak. Then you are left with actual Anarchism which has nothing to do with the strong VS the weak.

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And just in case someone feels like taking the challenge - there are actual places in the world which are exactly like this. Mostly in Africa though. Somali comes in mind.



US-Libertarian ideas? Yes I agree those ideas can be seen in the weaker African countries.

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Personally I think they are a bunch of fucking pussies... Most of our so called libertarians have never actually voted for a Libertarian candidate.

They are closet rePUBICans who dont want that stigma of being the pathetic losers they really are with the rest of the American Taliban. Its all about perception to them... they always want to appear as winners... and when they lose big time.... they want to appear as something else. They have failed miserably and now most of America see's exactly where they lead this country. Since the advent of VOODOO Economics in 1981 we have gone from a 800 billion debt to 11 TRILLION.

Most of them are ill equipt to live in a world without government and the nanny state... which they so vehemently decry.... to protect their sorry asses.. hmmm I bet you fall in that same category... from a different perspective though. You could not handle living in your idyllic world with no government to protect you.:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

If you dont think that the strong and prepared are not the big winners in your post governmental world.... I can only hope you get EXACTLY what it is you want....just so I get to watch... and laugh my ass off.

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I am a libertarian. I wouldn't say violent anarchist but i believe in little to no gov., less regulation, pro choice on everything, less laws not more prisons, etc. Now if you look at every single complex society in civilized history, every single on of them has collapsed. And not to sound Hollywood but ours will too. It will happen. When? Shit, I dont know. But based on our current progress maybe within a few hundred years or sooner... I really dont know. The Olduvai Theory and Malthusian Theory talks about the collapse of industrialized civilization and food depletion and we are on track with most of it's predictions. So anarchist.... kind of but not really. Lol. . I think we need a reset button. Will it be a disaster...? fuck yeah. It wont be pretty. But maybe thats what we need. So, I really dont think about the inevitable day of anarchy... but remember anarchy does not involve violence. Then it is chaos. The hopes of anarchy is utopia but we are innately violent and greedy for power and other delusions soooo I guess dystopia is all we have to work with. I think most people would be cowering and scared. We are so used to conveniences and easy way outs. The strong are the only ones that are supposed to survive. I mean we have found ways with technology, medicine, etc. to allow the vast majority of humans to survive and thats why we are wayyyy past carrying capacity with 6.7 billion people. Pretty crazy. I just think we need less government, less reg., less laws. But the anarchy is inevitable..... I just hope not in our lifetime.


And you're right. I think a lot of people want the reset button but we truly have no idea of what will happen WHEN that day comes. I think it's going to suck!!!!!! Take a look at Somalia!!!! Kind of scary. I vote libertarian. My actions dont change to support the flavor of the week. I believe in true liberty, something we have not had in along, long.......... never.




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So.. I really have to ask.. how many of all you self professed "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" could actually live in a world where there were no government intrusion and only the strong survive???



Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.

Me ;);););););););)Will have lots of venison next week. Anybody want some? ;)
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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
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Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.



Ahh....it's great to have Amazon back!:D:D:D

(Now quit sugar-coating it, and tell us what you really think.)
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Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.



Ahh....it's great to have Amazon back!:D:D:D

(Now quit sugar-coating it, and tell us what you really think.)


I ran across some of these fucknuggets at the range... totally fucking clueless. Just a lot of white supremacist rhetoric and right wing spewage. I doubt any one of them could hit a fucking thing past 50 ft... easy marks for anyone with the know how to eliminate these weak links. Its a good thing most of them will be dead within a few weeks after their wet dream happens. The species does not need all the dead weight.:S

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Amazon you are full of shit. Just because you announce that the two concepts are the same thing doesn't mean they are. Libertarianism is not anarchism. Libertarians do believe there is a place for the starte; specifically to enforce contracts and to prevent the initiation of violence.
Your argument is no better than to announce that all muslems are taliban, and then pul out the worst excesses of the taliban as proof that all muslems are evil. Perhaps I can dredge up some of GWBs excesses and put them on you, after all you are an American.

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Amazon you are full of shit. Just because you announce that the two concepts are the same thing doesn't mean they are. Libertarianism is not anarchism. Libertarians do believe there is a place for the starte; specifically to enforce contracts and to prevent the initiation of violence.
Your argument is no better than to announce that all muslems are taliban, and then pul out the worst excesses of the taliban as proof that all muslems are evil. Perhaps I can dredge up some of GWBs excesses and put them on you, after all you are an American.



Back at cha..... When you read the definitions of it.. and the ideals many of our so called "libertarians" espouse.... it certainly is. AS far as the Taliban... many of the so called "libertarians" in this country are not much differant and are very close to being fundamentalist christian Taliban

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There are many flavors of Libertarianism; just as there are many flavors of other political/social philosophy. Only one extreme end of that spectrum calls for total anarchy. The centrist position, where most fall and which represents the position of the Libertarian Part in the USA, does look for minimal government intervention in the choices people make. These people feel the government should only engage in a few basic needs - such as defending our borders, diplomatic relations, regulation of essential infrastructure, etc.

Labeling all Libertarians as Anarchists is like calling all cats man-eating lions.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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There are many flavors of Libertarianism; just as there are many flavors of other political/social philosophy. Only one extreme end of that spectrum calls for total anarchy. The centrist position, where most fall and which represents the position of the Libertarian Part in the USA, does look for minimal government intervention in the choices people make. These people feel the government should only engage in a few basic needs - such as defending our borders, diplomatic relations, regulation of essential infrastructure, etc.

Labeling all Libertarians as Anarchists is like calling all cats man-eating lions.



I am labelling MOST of the self professed "libertarians" around here as closeted rePUBICans who have never actually voted for a Libertarian candidate in their lives. They are just too dysfunctional to be honest about how they usually vote... and wish to only be portrayed as "winners" rather than what we are seeing now..."whiners".

The anarchists are a whole nother breed..... completely delusional..and has been pointed out, they need a field trip to Somalia so they can live in their wet dream world

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Anachists, chistans, what the hell is the world coming to?

You're killing me woman. Type slower!



DUDE.. can't you tell I am fucking bored... otherwise I would not be posting... and since I am.. I want those children who were left behind to see what its like to not use a spell checker.... but at least I am not blaming that on the NEA:o

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There are many flavors of Libertarianism; just as there are many flavors of other political/social philosophy. Only one extreme end of that spectrum calls for total anarchy. The centrist position, where most fall and which represents the position of the Libertarian Part in the USA, does look for minimal government intervention in the choices people make. These people feel the government should only engage in a few basic needs - such as defending our borders, diplomatic relations, regulation of essential infrastructure, etc.

Labeling all Libertarians as Anarchists is like calling all cats man-eating lions.



I am labelling MOST of the self professed "libertarians" around here as closeted rePUBICans who have never actually voted for a Libertarian candidate in their lives. They are just too dysfunctional to be honest about how they usually vote... and wish to only be portrayed as "winners" rather than what we are seeing now..."whiners".

The anarchists are a whole nother breed..... completely delusional..and has been pointed out, they need a field trip to Somalia so they can live in their wet dream world



I agree with you on the anarchists; but we left that behind as a whole when tribes started living close enough together to willfully share resources. Pockets of it do still spring up - unfortunately.

So how do you know who all the self-professed Libertarians are actually voting for? I'd agree that if they are not voting their stated affiliation they vote Repub as the lesser of 2 evils.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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So.. I really have to ask.. how many of all you self professed "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" could actually live in a world where there were no government intrusion and only the strong survive???



Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.



well... believing that "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" are one in the same shows a certain level of ignorance.
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If you dont think that the strong and prepared are not the big winners in your post governmental world.



Implicit in non-authoritarian socialist theory is the discussion of hierarchy and power. So the implication that Anarchism theorises anything like this is pure idiocy.

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Amazon you are full of shit. Just because you announce that the two concepts are the same thing doesn't mean they are. Libertarianism is not anarchism.


Yes it is - just not in North America.

That is the exact historical meaning of libertarian - the working socialist left aka Anarchism.


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The anarchists are a whole nother breed..... completely delusional..and has been pointed out, they need a field trip to Somalia so they can live in their wet dream world



Third world countries are not a model for Anarchism which just shows how shallow your understanding of the world is. If anything they are unregulated markets - what is called libertarian in the US.

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I agree with you on the anarchists; but we left that behind as a whole when tribes started living close enough together to willfully share resources. Pockets of it do still spring up - unfortunately.



This is also nonsense.

Mutual aid, communal living, non-hierarchical, gift economies, etc societies were all prevalent in the past.

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So.. I really have to ask.. how many of all you self professed "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" could actually live in a world where there were no government intrusion and only the strong survive???



Personally I think yall are full of shit... and would be cowering shuddering and shitting and peeing in your pants if everthing fell apart and your little wet dream came to fruition.



well... believing that "Libertarians" and "Anarchists" are one in the same shows a certain level of ignorance.



The ignorance lies in those morons thinking getting rid of the government will make for a utopia for them.. just fucking delusional. All that Evil government crap is just that... 99% of the people have no clue how to live without the government protecting them from each other.

For what its worth.. most of the same people were good with the LAST government.... so I guess they were good with getting bent over by SHRUBCO...

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>99% of the people have no clue how to live without the government
>protecting them from each other.

I think most people do a pretty good job of living without the government protecting them from other people.



Oh really???

LA riots come to mind for you???

How about Katrina????

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The ignorance lies in those morons thinking getting rid of the government will make for a utopia for them.. just fucking delusional. All that Evil government crap is just that... 99% of the people have no clue how to live without the government protecting them from each other.

For what its worth.. most of the same people were good with the LAST government.... so I guess they were good with getting bent over by SHRUBCO...



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>99% of the people have no clue how to live without the government
>protecting them from each other.

I think most people do a pretty good job of living without the government protecting them from other people.



Oh really???

LA riots come to mind for you???

How about Katrina????



Your reasoning and examples are so poor it is hilarious and you clearly don't understand much social and economical theory to even postulate them.

Your argument could be used - and was used - for feudalism and slavery.

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I am familiar with the Libertarian Party...

Most of the idiots claiming they are "Libertarian" have not nor would they ever vote for a candidate from that party. So many closeted rePUBICans... they take the little tests.... want to say NO to everything... then run off to rallies with teabags hung all over hats.. and stuffed where the sun don't shine:S

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