jcd11235 0 #201 August 7, 2008 QuoteWRONG Muslims do NOT worship the same God as do the Jews. The Jews worship Jehovah Muslims worship Allah...not the same at all. Jews worship YHWH, not Jehovah. Unless, of course, you think that both names might actually reference the same god, in much the same way that YHVH and Allah do. You would do well to learn something about Islam before making such foolish statements about it.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #202 August 7, 2008 QuoteThat's nice. But how do you know this to be true?? _______________________________________________ I'm not sure what you were referring to, but whatever it was, its because God's words have made it very clear to those who have Spiritual understanding. In your post you made statments. You never said how you arrived at those conclusions. That is my question. So what you are saying is that you had "Spirtual understanding" so you were able to recognize that the KJV is the correct bible and all the others are not? Is that right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #203 August 7, 2008 Jews worship YHWH, not Jehovah. Unless, of course, you think that both names might actually reference the same god, in much the same way that YHVH and Allah do. You would do well to learn something about Islam before making such foolish statement about it ____________________________________________________ Certainly NOt a foolish statement....but Islam is a foolish religion, and does not worship the One True God. I know enough about Islam to know its not worshipping the same God as does either the Jews or Christians. Yahweh and Jehovah Tsidkenu are the same God...different names. There are also many otgher names for God Almighty, and Allah is NOT one of them. That name ( Allah) was only given by Mohammed in the 6th century....long after God's true name ( Jehovah or Yahweh) was given. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #204 August 7, 2008 _______________________________________________ I'm not sure what you were referring to, but whatever it was, its because God's words have made it very clear to those who have Spiritual understanding. In your post you made statments. You never said how you arrived at those conclusions. That is my question. So what you are saying is that you had "Spirtual understanding" so you were able to recognize that the KJV is the correct bible and all the others are not? Is that right? _________________________________________________ YES, that is preceisely correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #205 August 7, 2008 Quote _______________________________________________ I'm not sure what you were referring to, but whatever it was, its because God's words have made it very clear to those who have Spiritual understanding. In your post you made statments. You never said how you arrived at those conclusions. That is my question. So what you are saying is that you had "Spirtual understanding" so you were able to recognize that the KJV is the correct bible and all the others are not? Is that right? _________________________________________________ YES, that is preceisely correct. How did you get this "Spirtual understanding" before having read the bible? So that you were able to recognize the KJV as the ONE?? How do you know your "Spirtual understanding" is correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #206 August 7, 2008 Whether one agrees with someones faith or not, the attacks (maybe not the correct term) or the laughing at someone who has faith in God, is depressing if not discusting Why is it that those who do not beilieve are so threatened by those of strong faith (of which I am not one)? And I say threatened because I can not think of any other reason to do so "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #207 August 7, 2008 QuoteI know enough about Islam to know its not worshipping the same God as does either the Jews or Christians. Yahweh and Jehovah Tsidkenu are the same God...different names. There are also many otgher names for God Almighty, and Allah is NOT one of them. That name ( Allah) was only given by Mohammed in the 6th century....long after God's true name ( Jehovah or Yahweh) was given. LOL Do you even know what Allah means? You have clearly demonstrated that you know nothing about Islam. Are you so insecure in your own beliefs that you cannot handle the knowledge that Islam, everything about which you have proclaimed to hate, is a religion in which its practitioners worship the same god as the Jews?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #208 August 7, 2008 Quote Whether one agrees with someones faith or not, the attacks (maybe not the correct term) or the laughing at someone who has faith in God, is depressing if not discusting Why is it that those who do not beilieve are so threatened by those of strong faith (of which I am not one)? And I say threatened because I can not think of any other reason to do so Stop the presses! mark the date... I actually AGREE with rushmc! Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #209 August 7, 2008 QuoteWRONG Muslims do NOT worship the same God as do the Jews. The Jews worship Jehovah Muslims worship Allah...not the same at all. Ok, I'll admit that they are spelled differently. Quote It's NOT the same at all....and furthermore, Mohammed was a murderer of the Jews. He was not a prophet, and he only began his "false religion" about the year 600+ - a few years. It uis totally a false religion worshipping a false god. Same God, burning bush vs. burning meteorite, both times God picked a mountaineer to hand his rule book to. It's clearly the same MO. Gabriel supposedly spoke to Muhammad because Gabriel's previous messages were apparently either misinterpreted or just flat out ignored. And you know, I'm thinking that we're due for another visit from ol' Gabrielus. Abraham's kids STILL aren't paying attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #210 August 7, 2008 >Muslims do NOT worship the same God as do the Jews. >The Jews worship Jehovah. I never thought about that! Since they use different words for them, they must be different gods. (Of course you must believe as they do; Jehovah is right there in the one real Bible, the King James version.) Come to think of it, Christians worship many different gods too. They worship the Lord, they worship God, they worship someone called the Father. That's three right there. Then there's the Holy Spirit, Jesus, Christ, the Nazarene and the Son of God. I remember singing hymns to Yahweh when I was in school. But let's narrow it to the King James version of the Bible, since that's the one you consider authorized. There we have dozens: Advocate - 1 John 2:1 Almighty - Revelation 1:8 Alpha - Revelation 1:8 Angel of the Lord - Genesis 16:7 Anointed One - Psalm 2:2 Bishop of Souls - 1 Peter 2:25 Bread of Life - John 6:35,48 Bridegroom - Matthew 9:15 Carpenter - Mark 6:3 Chief Shepherd - 1 Peter 5:4 The Christ - Matthew 1:16 Comforter - Jeremiah 8:18 Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25 Cornerstone - Ephesians 2:20 Dayspring - Luke 1:78 Day Star - 2 Peter 1:19 Deliverer - Romans 11:26 Emmanuel - Matthew 1:23 Everlasting Father - Isaiah 9:6 Faithful and True Witness - Revelation 3:14 Foundation - Isaiah 28:16 Fountain - Zechariah 13:1 Friend of Sinners - Matthew 11:19 Gate for the Sheep - John 10:7 Gift of God - 2 Corinthians 9:15 God - John 1:1 Good Shepherd - John 10:11 Governor - Matthew 2:6 Great Shepherd - Hebrews 13:20 Guide - Psalm 48:14 Holy One of Israel - Isaiah 41:14 Horn of Salvation - Luke 1:69 Jehovah - Psalm 83:18 Jesus - Matthew 1:21 King of Israel - Matthew 27:42 King of Kings - 1 Timothy 6:15; Revelation 19:16 Lamb of God - John 1:29 Last Adam - 1 Corinthians 15:45 Lion of the Tribe of Judah - Revelation 5:5 Lord of Lords - 1 Timothy 6:15; Revelation 19:16 Master - Matthew 23:8 Mediator - 1 Timothy 2:5 Messiah - John 1:41 Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6 Morning Star - Revelation 22:16 Nazarene - Matthew 2:23 Passover Lamb - 1 Corinthians 5:7 Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15 Priest - Hebrews 4:15 Prince of Peace - Isaiah 9:6 Purifier - Malachi 3:3 Rabbi - John 1:49 Ransom - 1 Timothy 2:6 Refuge - Isaiah 25:4 Righteousness - Jeremiah 23:6 Rock - Deuteronomy 32:4 Root of David - Revelation 22:16 Rose of Sharon - Song of Solomon 2:1 Sacrifice - Ephesians 5:2 Savior - 2 Samuel 22:47; Luke 1:47 Second Adam - 1 Corinthians 15:47 Seed of Abraham - Galatians 3:16 Seed of David - 2 Timothy 2:8 Seed of the Woman - Genesis 3:15 Shepherd - 1 Peter 2:25 Shiloh - Genesis 49:10 Son of Mary - Mark 6:3 Teacher - Matthew 26:18 Wonderful Counselor - Isaiah 9:6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #211 August 7, 2008 Careful bill, if you reveal ALL the names of God I think something bad is supposed to happen.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #212 August 7, 2008 Isn't Al Pacino the devil? In that case, I have no problem going to hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #213 August 7, 2008 Quote Acording to the Bible, Adam (of Adam and Eve fame) apparently died when he was 930 years old. Since the world has only been around for 6 days (cos we're in the sixth day right now), Adam must have predated God by about oh... 930 years. And in God years that a bazzilion million trillion earth years. Thanks for clearing that up! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #214 August 7, 2008 > Careful bill, if you reveal ALL the names of God I think something bad is >supposed to happen. I was careful to leave a few out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #215 August 7, 2008 QuoteWhy is it that those who do not beilieve are so threatened humored by those of strong faith (of which I am not one)? One small change, and your question becomes the answer. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #216 August 7, 2008 QuoteYou all don't know how it all works. Let me explain it ... And while you're at it please remember to explain what leggy lizards I can breed my slow worms with! Li'l guys are getting horny, so let's not keep them waiting, eh?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #217 August 7, 2008 How did you come up with all that info on such short notice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #218 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteYou all don't know how it all works. Let me explain it ... And while you're at it please remember to explain what leggy lizards I can breed my slow worms with! Li'l guys are getting horny, so let's not keep them waiting, eh? And while you're at it please remember to ask a biologist what capable of interbreeding means. I really wish some people could evolve beyond pessimistic trolls ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #219 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote Why is it that those who do not beilieve are so threatened humored by those of strong faith (of which I am not one)? One small change, and your question becomes the answer. I believe your change strengthens my point"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #220 August 7, 2008 QuoteA reptile losing it's legs would be micro. A reptile becoming a mammal would be macro. Micro evolution occurs within a species. Macro evolution occurs when a species becomes a completely different species (that is incapable of interbreeding). It's a very simple question. If my legless slow worms are a product of your 'micro evolution,' where are the normal lizards running around that my slow worms can interbreed with? Dammit I want to see some freaky lizard sex!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #221 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteA reptile losing it's legs would be micro. A reptile becoming a mammal would be macro. Micro evolution occurs within a species. Macro evolution occurs when a species becomes a completely different species (that is incapable of interbreeding). It's a very simple question. If my legless slow worms are a product of your 'micro evolution,' where are the normal lizards running around that my slow worms can interbreed with? Dammit I want to see some freaky lizard sex! Whether two populations are capable of interbreeding is based on the amount of genetic differences. Find yourself a lizard with legs that has enough genetic similarities to your legless lizard ... PS: At no point did I state capable of having sexual relations. So don't get to excited ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #222 August 7, 2008 QuoteIt would be stupid to dedicate your whole life to a theory that has no evidence. Deitys and creationism has been around for thousands of years and in that time not one shred of evidence has been found to support them. It is unreasonable to believe in any deity or creationism. If science had a similar theory that had been around for as long and also had no evidence, it would not be taken very seriously. Something cannot come out of nothing. No science has ever been able to make something out of nothing, and by nothing I dont mean space of nothingness...I mean NOTHING. I think the initial spark of life was created, and evoltion has ben the natural progression of this existance.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #223 August 7, 2008 Quote The original manuscripts were guided by the hand of God to come together in London England And thats all the evidence thats required as far as I'm concerned. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #224 August 7, 2008 By the way currently quantum physics is pointing at the spiritual world. Check this movie: Subject: what the bleep...down the rabbit hole To: [email protected] part 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSk51Lp-vHU part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ut4JNzWgjaA part 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFqgSf7GDjI part 4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQe0oiaBssg part 5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=qlomn1Hc_VM part 6 http://youtube.com/watch?v=IVWaRNk-dR0 X part 7 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ef34C4WKmb4 part 8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=4uKCj1zTbQg&feature=related part 9 http://youtube.com/watch?v=TlCozQvvcl0&feature=related part 10 http://youtube.com/watch?v=M3Mu4ziPf3A&feature=related part 11 http://youtube.com/watch?v=_VEJt3wrOlk part 12 http://youtube.com/watch?v=lTZjIVR6TLI&feature=related part 13 http://youtube.com/watch?v=lD-3wK3hZYw&feature=related part 14 http://youtube.com/watch?v=JWXJUNkkKj0&feature=related part 15 http://youtube.com/watch?v=kjLYv-fiaxw part 16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTK46635gM PHYSICISTS William Tiller, Ph.D. Amit Goswami, Ph.D. John Hagelin, Ph.D. Fred Alan Wolf, Ph.D. Dr. David Albert NEUROLOGISTS, ANESTHESIOLOGISTS & PHYSICIANS Dr. Masaru Emoto Stuart Hameroff M.D. Dr. Jeffrey Satinover Andrew B. Newberg, M.D. Dr. Daniel Monti Dr. Joseph Dispenza MOLECULAR BIOLOGY Dr. Candace Pert SPIRITUAL TEACHERS, MYSTICS AND SCHOLARS Ramtha Miceal Ledwith, Ph.D.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #225 August 7, 2008 QuoteFind yourself a lizard with legs that has enough genetic similarities to your legless lizard ... I think that's your job. You made the claim, you surely must know of legless and legged liards that can interbreed, or were you just making it up? QuoteWhether two populations are capable of interbreeding is based on the amount of genetic differences... PS: At no point did I state capable of having sexual relations. If they can't have sex, then they are functionally incapable of interbreeding. Also, this exchange highlights the contradictory nature of your definition of micro/macro. You've defined it as both the point of speciation, and the point where two species become incapable of interbreeding. Which is it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
