akarunway 1 #1 June 23, 2007 Just got this in an e-mail "Good goin girl"> NRA files Butte Montana November 5, 2006 Home invasion gone wrong for criminals. Two illegal aliens, Raphael Resindez 23, and Enrico Garza 26, probably believed they would easily overpower and rape a home alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two story home. It seems the two crooks never learned two things, they were in Montana, and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine. Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun. Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buck shot from the 11 year old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals. OUCH! When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive. It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery, where the victim, 50 year old David Burien, was not so lucky, as he died from stab wounds to the chest. Had this happened in CA, the ACLU would be out in force suing the 11 year old girl. (Not to mention the LaRaza groups claiming she was discriminating.) Just another reason I keep loaded and locked guns in my house and car. Send the illegal scum home in a box and avoid repeat border crossings. Nice'Shootin', Patricia! That is what we call gun control! Actually ... it`s more like 'criminal control"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #2 June 23, 2007 Gun Control is using both hands "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverborg 0 #3 June 23, 2007 QuoteHad this happened in CA, the ACLU would be out in force suing the 11 year old girl. (Not to mention the LaRaza groups claiming she was discriminating.) Just another reason I keep loaded and locked guns in my house and car. Just another reason that I don't want to live in CA either. If this was an older man that was home alone, I'm sure the ACLU would be pursuing this even if it was in Montana. I think they don't have much to stand on when an 11 year old girl home alone caps to armed and dangerous assailants and one that just previously killed. You know its gotta be driving the ACLU nuts and they'd probably love to watch this little girls life get ruined (I mean any 11 year old girl that knows how to shoot a gun has to be evil and in dire need of psychological help), but they know they haven't got anything to stand on with this one. As you can all tell I'm a pretty big fan of the ACLU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 51 #4 June 23, 2007 Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #5 June 23, 2007 QuoteQuote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: Dang, that's just too bad. It's always nice to hear of scum getting taken out of the gene pool. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites penniless 0 #6 June 23, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: Dang, that's just too bad. It's always nice to hear of scum getting taken out of the gene pool. Well, why don't you make up some more fiction then, and post it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #7 June 23, 2007 Quote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause.My bad if the story wasn't true. I should have invesigated beforew posting it. BUT..The point is... well you knowI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #8 June 23, 2007 Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: Quote Yeah...it was a Remington instead of a Mossberg! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #9 June 23, 2007 This guy usually has the info about self-defense stuff before anyone else...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #10 June 23, 2007 Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #11 June 23, 2007 QuoteDid you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Uniform Crime Report they published for 2005 (the last year with finalized numbers) 14.860 people were murdered. Approximately 68% of those murders were committed with firearms. According the the FBI, that is 10,100 people killed in America with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_10.html Care to share your unreliable sources? Or do your sources know more about crime than the FBI?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #12 June 23, 2007 Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Uniform Crime Report they published for 2005 (the last year with finalized numbers) 14.860 people were murdered. Approximately 68% of those murders were committed with firearms. According the the FBI, that is 10,100 people killed in America with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_10.html Care to share your unreliable sources? Or do your sources know more about crime than the FBI? Suppose the data came from the Brady Bunch??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #13 June 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteDid you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? I'm sure it's the inclusion of suicides plus some rounding fun. But then I think you'd have to change the "are killed" bit since that implies they are the objects, not the cause of the killings. And sorry guys, if the fantasty story happened as written, there would be no sanctions in CA. People do commit acts of self defense in this state that results in dead bad guys. They aren't hauled off or sued by the ACLU (which from a legal issue isn't even possible). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #14 June 24, 2007 Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #15 June 24, 2007 Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! thats a lot of holes to dig in the ice. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #16 June 24, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! thats a lot of holes to dig in the ice. Shrinkage...small holes. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #17 June 24, 2007 You're talking about murders i'm talking about firearms related fatalities approx 14 deaths per 100,000 in a country of 300million.http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/27/2/214.pdf.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jpjc2000 0 #18 June 24, 2007 WOW...gettin up there with traffic deaths!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #19 June 24, 2007 YUP ! Dosn't matter someones daughter someones son crack on..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #20 June 24, 2007 ...bad link...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,400 #21 June 24, 2007 Please cite your sources for your claim that the ACLU would want to prosecute someone for defending themselves."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #22 June 24, 2007 Google search "firearms related fatalities us" There's lots of stuff such us most masacres are carried out with legally held weapons,the US leads the way with the most gun related deaths worldwide etc etc. I'd like to add i don't have problem with sport shooting pas se but people who go on about the need to own a gun for personal protection,right to carry etc etc and fantasise about killing in so called self defence well imo that is giving a monkey a loaded gun..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #23 June 24, 2007 QuoteJust got this in an e-mail "Good goin girl"> NRA files Butte Montana How's is it that these individual stories make the news, get widely circulated, discussed on snoopes etc. One thing that always comes to my mind when I hear them is the old journalism adage Dog bites man is not news -- Man bites dog is news Dog-bites-man-stories (such as domestic disputes between otherwise "law abiding" citicens or people being mugged at gun point with guns easily stolen from an abundance of "legal" guns) rarely get any attention on this sort of individual level. All you can practically do, due to sheer volume, is summarize them in statistics. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Steeler 0 #24 June 24, 2007 Quote I'd like to add i don't have problem with sport shooting pas se but people who go on about the need to own a gun for personal protection,right to carry etc etc and fantasise about killing in so called self defence well imo that is giving a monkey a loaded gun. I plan to go to my local gun shop and purchase an AK next week-not kidding. Then hopefully one day I can fulfill my fantasy of killing somebody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lefty 0 #25 June 24, 2007 Quote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause. Heh, didn't someone say it's not the nature of the evidence but the coolness factor of the story that's important? (or something like that)Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
penniless 0 #6 June 23, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: Dang, that's just too bad. It's always nice to hear of scum getting taken out of the gene pool. Well, why don't you make up some more fiction then, and post it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #7 June 23, 2007 Quote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause.My bad if the story wasn't true. I should have invesigated beforew posting it. BUT..The point is... well you knowI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #8 June 23, 2007 Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: Quote Yeah...it was a Remington instead of a Mossberg! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #9 June 23, 2007 This guy usually has the info about self-defense stuff before anyone else...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #10 June 23, 2007 Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #11 June 23, 2007 QuoteDid you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Uniform Crime Report they published for 2005 (the last year with finalized numbers) 14.860 people were murdered. Approximately 68% of those murders were committed with firearms. According the the FBI, that is 10,100 people killed in America with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_10.html Care to share your unreliable sources? Or do your sources know more about crime than the FBI?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #12 June 23, 2007 Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Uniform Crime Report they published for 2005 (the last year with finalized numbers) 14.860 people were murdered. Approximately 68% of those murders were committed with firearms. According the the FBI, that is 10,100 people killed in America with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_10.html Care to share your unreliable sources? Or do your sources know more about crime than the FBI? Suppose the data came from the Brady Bunch??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #13 June 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteDid you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? I'm sure it's the inclusion of suicides plus some rounding fun. But then I think you'd have to change the "are killed" bit since that implies they are the objects, not the cause of the killings. And sorry guys, if the fantasty story happened as written, there would be no sanctions in CA. People do commit acts of self defense in this state that results in dead bad guys. They aren't hauled off or sued by the ACLU (which from a legal issue isn't even possible). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #14 June 24, 2007 Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #15 June 24, 2007 Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! thats a lot of holes to dig in the ice. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #16 June 24, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! thats a lot of holes to dig in the ice. Shrinkage...small holes. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #17 June 24, 2007 You're talking about murders i'm talking about firearms related fatalities approx 14 deaths per 100,000 in a country of 300million.http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/27/2/214.pdf.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jpjc2000 0 #18 June 24, 2007 WOW...gettin up there with traffic deaths!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #19 June 24, 2007 YUP ! Dosn't matter someones daughter someones son crack on..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #20 June 24, 2007 ...bad link...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,400 #21 June 24, 2007 Please cite your sources for your claim that the ACLU would want to prosecute someone for defending themselves."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #22 June 24, 2007 Google search "firearms related fatalities us" There's lots of stuff such us most masacres are carried out with legally held weapons,the US leads the way with the most gun related deaths worldwide etc etc. I'd like to add i don't have problem with sport shooting pas se but people who go on about the need to own a gun for personal protection,right to carry etc etc and fantasise about killing in so called self defence well imo that is giving a monkey a loaded gun..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #23 June 24, 2007 QuoteJust got this in an e-mail "Good goin girl"> NRA files Butte Montana How's is it that these individual stories make the news, get widely circulated, discussed on snoopes etc. One thing that always comes to my mind when I hear them is the old journalism adage Dog bites man is not news -- Man bites dog is news Dog-bites-man-stories (such as domestic disputes between otherwise "law abiding" citicens or people being mugged at gun point with guns easily stolen from an abundance of "legal" guns) rarely get any attention on this sort of individual level. All you can practically do, due to sheer volume, is summarize them in statistics. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Steeler 0 #24 June 24, 2007 Quote I'd like to add i don't have problem with sport shooting pas se but people who go on about the need to own a gun for personal protection,right to carry etc etc and fantasise about killing in so called self defence well imo that is giving a monkey a loaded gun. I plan to go to my local gun shop and purchase an AK next week-not kidding. Then hopefully one day I can fulfill my fantasy of killing somebody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lefty 0 #25 June 24, 2007 Quote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause. Heh, didn't someone say it's not the nature of the evidence but the coolness factor of the story that's important? (or something like that)Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
akarunway 1 #7 June 23, 2007 Quote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause.My bad if the story wasn't true. I should have invesigated beforew posting it. BUT..The point is... well you knowI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #8 June 23, 2007 Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: Quote Yeah...it was a Remington instead of a Mossberg! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 June 23, 2007 This guy usually has the info about self-defense stuff before anyone else...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #10 June 23, 2007 Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 June 23, 2007 QuoteDid you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Uniform Crime Report they published for 2005 (the last year with finalized numbers) 14.860 people were murdered. Approximately 68% of those murders were committed with firearms. According the the FBI, that is 10,100 people killed in America with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_10.html Care to share your unreliable sources? Or do your sources know more about crime than the FBI?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #12 June 23, 2007 Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Uniform Crime Report they published for 2005 (the last year with finalized numbers) 14.860 people were murdered. Approximately 68% of those murders were committed with firearms. According the the FBI, that is 10,100 people killed in America with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_10.html Care to share your unreliable sources? Or do your sources know more about crime than the FBI? Suppose the data came from the Brady Bunch??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 June 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteDid you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not No, I didn't know that, because it's not true. Where'd you get that number? I'm sure it's the inclusion of suicides plus some rounding fun. But then I think you'd have to change the "are killed" bit since that implies they are the objects, not the cause of the killings. And sorry guys, if the fantasty story happened as written, there would be no sanctions in CA. People do commit acts of self defense in this state that results in dead bad guys. They aren't hauled off or sued by the ACLU (which from a legal issue isn't even possible). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #14 June 24, 2007 Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #15 June 24, 2007 Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! thats a lot of holes to dig in the ice. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #16 June 24, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Did you know that aprox 30,000 [Thirty thousand] americans are killed in america every year....guns are so cool.......not North or South America? Either way, I guess it's better than if 30,000 [Thirty thousand] Americans were killed each year in antarctica! thats a lot of holes to dig in the ice. Shrinkage...small holes. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #17 June 24, 2007 You're talking about murders i'm talking about firearms related fatalities approx 14 deaths per 100,000 in a country of 300million.http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/27/2/214.pdf.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpjc2000 0 #18 June 24, 2007 WOW...gettin up there with traffic deaths!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #19 June 24, 2007 YUP ! Dosn't matter someones daughter someones son crack on..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #20 June 24, 2007 ...bad link...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,400 #21 June 24, 2007 Please cite your sources for your claim that the ACLU would want to prosecute someone for defending themselves."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #22 June 24, 2007 Google search "firearms related fatalities us" There's lots of stuff such us most masacres are carried out with legally held weapons,the US leads the way with the most gun related deaths worldwide etc etc. I'd like to add i don't have problem with sport shooting pas se but people who go on about the need to own a gun for personal protection,right to carry etc etc and fantasise about killing in so called self defence well imo that is giving a monkey a loaded gun..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #23 June 24, 2007 QuoteJust got this in an e-mail "Good goin girl"> NRA files Butte Montana How's is it that these individual stories make the news, get widely circulated, discussed on snoopes etc. One thing that always comes to my mind when I hear them is the old journalism adage Dog bites man is not news -- Man bites dog is news Dog-bites-man-stories (such as domestic disputes between otherwise "law abiding" citicens or people being mugged at gun point with guns easily stolen from an abundance of "legal" guns) rarely get any attention on this sort of individual level. All you can practically do, due to sheer volume, is summarize them in statistics. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeler 0 #24 June 24, 2007 Quote I'd like to add i don't have problem with sport shooting pas se but people who go on about the need to own a gun for personal protection,right to carry etc etc and fantasise about killing in so called self defence well imo that is giving a monkey a loaded gun. I plan to go to my local gun shop and purchase an AK next week-not kidding. Then hopefully one day I can fulfill my fantasy of killing somebody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #25 June 24, 2007 Quote Sorry to spoil the fun, but it's not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp I'm all for young kids defending themselves by whatever means are required, but false stories don't help that cause. Heh, didn't someone say it's not the nature of the evidence but the coolness factor of the story that's important? (or something like that)Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
