SkyDekker 1,147 #1 February 4, 2005 scary this guy is a US Marine General.... QuoteAccording to an audio recording, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot . . . It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling." He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." From: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/02/04/marine_general_says_its_fun_to_shoot_some_in_combat/ among many other places.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #2 February 4, 2005 Quotescary this guy is a US Marine General.... ***According to an audio recording, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot . . . It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling." He added, "... it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." After quotes like that, I'm thinking his career is about to end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aerohaga 0 #3 February 4, 2005 He's just saying out loud what a lot of them think, I'll bet. Should probably just be a little more discreet.For my part, I know nothing with any certainty, But the sight of the stars makes me dream. -Vincent Van Gogh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #4 February 4, 2005 QuoteHe's just saying out loud what a lot of them think, I'll bet. Should probably just be a little more discreet. Exactly, is is actually a good thing that people like to kill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #5 February 4, 2005 Quotescary this guy is a US Marine General.... Nice America bash, but every culture has their extremists. At least he wasn't describing how much fun it would be to slowly saw someone's head off on video, or how cool it would be to drive a car full of explosives into a crowded Iraqi wedding. Our extremists are lame compared to the opposition. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,401 #6 February 4, 2005 QuoteQuotescary this guy is a US Marine General.... ***According to an audio recording, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot . . . It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling." He added, "... it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." After quotes like that, I'm thinking his career is about to end. My first thought was that I am envious of someone who gets enjoys his job, and gets satisfaction from it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #7 February 4, 2005 QuoteNice America bash Wasn't a bash, just indicating where the guy is from and that the troops he commands are currently actively involved. Rest assured, if it had been a Canadian General, I would have specified that too..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #8 February 4, 2005 QuoteHe's just saying out loud what a lot of them think, I'll bet. Should probably just be a little more discreet. The Commandant of the Marine Corps was quoted as saying "He could have chosen his words more carefully". Yes, I can agree with that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #9 February 4, 2005 Well...I imagine it is fun to shoot some people.... linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #10 February 4, 2005 His actual quote: "Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling. You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." Men [sic] who slap women around like that should be shot. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 February 4, 2005 Quote Rest assured, if it had been a Canadian General, I would have specified that too..... But then everyone would have laughed... Ok, seriously, though. What's the guy's job? What has that guy's job been for the last 30 years? Killing people and leading other people to kill people. IF you would have quoted the REST of what he said you'll see he's talking about the Afgan men that had been abusing women for the past number of years and now fighting against the US with terror (i.e. Taliban). Basically he said its fun to shoot men that treat their women like that. No go away and read the rest of the article, try a couple of different sources too.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #12 February 4, 2005 ***scary this guy is a US Marine General.... And, your point is????????Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #13 February 4, 2005 Quotescary this guy is a US Marine General.... QuoteAccording to an audio recording, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot . . . It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling." He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." From: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/02/04/marine_general_says_its_fun_to_shoot_some_in_combat/ among many other places.... Actually sounds to me like just the right man for the job. I don't think we should have started the fight but if your going to be fighting, it's good to have people that enjoy the work.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #14 February 4, 2005 Saying what he said wasn't the greatest idea, but I don't see what the big deal is. He is trained and paid to go to war. War = killing people. Duh That is the kind of person I would want as a General. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #15 February 4, 2005 QuoteHe's just saying out loud what a lot of them think, I'll bet. Should probably just be a little more discreet. Correct. He should have stated something to the effect of, "Empirical studies and tremendous amounts of anecdotal evidence show the "combat high" is very real. In a sense, killing is fun. The job of the leadership is to ensure that killing is kept within the rules." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 February 4, 2005 QuoteCorrect. He should have stated something to the effect of, "Empirical studies and tremendous amounts of anecdotal evidence show the "combat high" is very real. In a sense, killing is fun. The job of the leadership is to ensure that killing is kept within the rules." I count only 5 $50 words. You're slacking, your lawyer buddies would be ashamed to not see atleast 8 $50 words. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #17 February 4, 2005 oh my, that man is just a monster. Our generals should be more sensitive and caring about the people they kill, In fact their actions should pass a global test don't you think? Give me a break. Gladiators kill. Thats what they do. Thats what we pay them for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #18 February 4, 2005 I'd hope that while killing is part of their job, our soldiers would never consider it "fun" no matter how justified. A sense of justification I can understand....fun, I cannot. No matter what the circumstances I cannot possibly understand the idea of finding pleasure killing another human being. Like I said, a sense of justification or rightousness, yes - fun, no. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #19 February 4, 2005 QuoteOk, seriously, though. What's the guy's job? What has that guy's job been for the last 30 years? Killing people and leading other people to kill people Large part of my job is firing people....doesn't mean I would describe it as fun. When I am about to arrest a highly combative person, I get a great adrenaline dump, which results in a high, doesn't mean I think it is fun to arrest people. And these things are not even on the same playing field as killing. QuoteIF you would have quoted the REST of what he said you'll see he's talking about the Afgan men that had been abusing women for the past number of years and now fighting against the US with terror (i.e. Taliban). He is judge, jury and executioner? He personally witnissed these things for every man he killed? Not saying it didin't happen, but it sounds more like personal justification in this case. Guess I am in the minority of people on here who thinks it is worrysome that some one would enjoy killing another person. Now go away and think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #20 February 4, 2005 I think he said it was fun to shoot them. I don't know if he really meant that he liked to kill....heh. I can think of one person in particular that I might find it fun to shoot.... QuoteI'd hope that while killing is part of their job, our soldiers would never consider it "fun" no matter how justified. A sense of justification I can understand....fun, I cannot. No matter what the circumstances I cannot possibly understand the idea of finding pleasure killing another human being. Like I said, a sense of justification or rightousness, yes - fun, no. Blues, Ian-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #21 February 4, 2005 QuoteI think he said it was fun to shoot them. I don't know if he really meant that he liked to kill I am pretty sure they are taught to shoot to kill, or maybe unlike police officers, they are taught to shoot them in the leg, or maybe even shoot the gun from their hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #22 February 4, 2005 As an EMT I went on many domestic diturbance calls where men had brtually beaten their woman. I gotta say, in every case I wised I could be the instrament of carma and give back to the men what they had given Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #23 February 4, 2005 The man is a Marine and as others have said, he's paid to do what he does. He spoke the truth. A lot of people don't want to hear the types of things he said... it's war! He's doing his job... what he swore he would do when he joined the Marines. I think, he's got some big cajones to stand-up and say what he did. I'd hate to think he's over there trying to stuff daisies down the rifle barrels of the enemy. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #24 February 4, 2005 QuoteRest assured, if it had been a Canadian General, I would have specified that too..... Ok, fair enough . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #25 February 4, 2005 I saw excerpts from the guy's speech on TV, but I haven't seen the whole speech to put in context. I think it was a politically risky thing to say, at the same time, I'm glad he feels that way about the job we have asked him to do for us. Some of the biggest detractors of the guy are going to be the same people that want "protection" from everything in the world. I remember another general who kept shooting his mouth off. It was General Patton, and he did the best job of anyone to help win WWII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
