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funks 1
Sorry Billvon, I disagree. My stance as plain and simple as it may be is that this is The United States of America, we speak english here. If you want to live, work and play in this country then you too should learn to speak the language that the majority of the public speaks.
I am repulsed by how many people are willing to accept the fact that it is ok for someone to come to this country and show no effort or interest in learning english.
I am repulsed by how many people are willing to accept the fact that it is ok for someone to come to this country and show no effort or interest in learning english.
skydyvr 0
QuoteI think we are all better off that there are such a mix of languages in the US.
Extremely well stated Bill -- diversity is a good thing.
Sorry if this is a repost:
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In the News: The Year 2029
Ozone created by electric cars now killing millions in the seventh largest country in the world, Mexifornia formally known as California. White minorities still trying to have English recognized as Mexifornia's third language.
Spotted Owl plague threatens northwestern United States crops and livestock.
Baby conceived naturally . . . scientists stumped.
Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage.
Last remaining Fundamentalist Muslim dies in the American Territory of the Middle East (formerly known as Iran, Afghanistan, Syria and
Lebanon).
Iraq still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 10 more years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels.
France pleads for global help after being overtaken by Jamaica.
Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported legally, but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking.
George Z. Bush says he will run for President in 2036.
Postal Service raises price of first class stamp to $17.89 and reduces mail delivery to Wednesdays only.
85-year, $75.8 billion study: Diet and Exercise is the key to weight loss.
Average weight of Americans drops to 250 lbs.
Japanese scientists have created a camera with such a fast shutter speed, they now can photograph a woman with her mouth shut.
Massachusetts executes last remaining conservative.
Supreme Court rules punishment of criminals violates their civil rights.
Average height of NBA players now nine feet, seven inches.
New federal law requires that all nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters and rolled-up newspapers must be registered by January 2036.
Congress authorizes direct deposit of formerly illegal political contributions to campaign accounts.
Capitol Hill intern indicted for refusing to have sex with congressman.
IRS sets lowest tax rate at 75 percent.
Florida Democrats still don't know how to use a voting machine while the Republicans continue to disenfranchise voters.
. . =(_8^(1)
kelel01 1
Just because someone doesn't speak the language at this exact moment does not mean that they never intend or want to. That's a rash assumption to make. Maybe they're working on it right now. Maybe their English class starts in two weeks. You don't know, so don't assume the worst of everyone.
funks 1
QuoteJust because someone doesn't speak the language at this exact moment does not mean that they never intend or want to. That's a rash assumption to make. Maybe they're working on it right now. Maybe their English class starts in two weeks. You don't know, so don't assume the worst of everyone.
There is a very large group of non-english speaking people in this country that have been here for many many years. They choose not to learn the language because we as a country make it way to easy for them to get by without learning english.
I am a firm believer in that they should be forced to learn the language if they wish to stay here permanently.
kelel01 1
Well, I'm still not bothered by it. Just trying to keep assumptions out of here.
You never answered the question that was previously asked. How many languages do you speak fluently?
QuoteThey choose not to learn the language because we as a country make it way to easy for them to get by without learning english.
Most of the time (much like the Italians did at the turn of the century), they manage to do so by staying within their community. Those who need to interact with people outside this community tend to learn English quite quickly. The next generation will speak English as a first language. I don't remember having to use my Italian that much in NYC last time I was there...
"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."
funks 1
QuoteYou never answered the question that was previously asked. How many languages do you speak fluently?
Not sure exactly why this matters but I speak ONE fluently. But you better bet your ass I would learn whatever one I needed to if i lived somewhere that English was not the predominantly spoken language.
billvon 2,454
> Sorry Billvon, I disagree. My stance as plain and simple as it may be is
> that this is The United States of America, we speak english here. If you
> want to live, work and play in this country then you too should learn to
> speak the language that the majority of the public speaks.
I agree that people _should_ speak english in that it is a good idea. They should not be forced to speak it any more than you should be forced to learn sign language - even if that means you cannot communicate with 20 million US citizens who are either deaf or profoundly hard of hearing.
>I am repulsed by how many people are willing to accept the fact that it is
> ok for someone to come to this country and show no effort or interest in
>learning english.
And I find such attitudes funny in a land where we destroyed the native peoples and built our nation from bands of immigrants.
> that this is The United States of America, we speak english here. If you
> want to live, work and play in this country then you too should learn to
> speak the language that the majority of the public speaks.
I agree that people _should_ speak english in that it is a good idea. They should not be forced to speak it any more than you should be forced to learn sign language - even if that means you cannot communicate with 20 million US citizens who are either deaf or profoundly hard of hearing.
>I am repulsed by how many people are willing to accept the fact that it is
> ok for someone to come to this country and show no effort or interest in
>learning english.
And I find such attitudes funny in a land where we destroyed the native peoples and built our nation from bands of immigrants.
May I respectfully suggest... As a first step... That Americans learn to speak English??!!
That's right. "Y'All" don't!
In the meantime (until Salty Pierre of Baton Rouge sounds like a BBC World Service announcer)... Learn to absorb the cultures which come to you, absorb them. Adapt to them... Take what's good from their cultures and show them what's good in yours. THAT is the way of effective and lasting Empire-Building.
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
That's right. "Y'All" don't!
In the meantime (until Salty Pierre of Baton Rouge sounds like a BBC World Service announcer)... Learn to absorb the cultures which come to you, absorb them. Adapt to them... Take what's good from their cultures and show them what's good in yours. THAT is the way of effective and lasting Empire-Building.
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
> to adapt . . .
Yes.
> and accept the fact that there are other languages being spoken . . .
Yes.
> and that we should learn those languages because of this.
No. Learn whatever languages you like. It will make you able to communicate with more people. If you don't care about that then don't do it. I only speak two languages at all well (english and french, and I haven't spoken french in about ten years) and I can follow spanish. That's enough for me. If one language is enough for you, then no problem. Just don't be shocked or annoyed when someone else makes the same decision that you do, and decides to not learn another language. It's their choice too.
>Why should we have to adapt? How about making them learn english?
Why? Who cares if some guy in Otay Mesa speaks english or not? If you don't want to talk to him, don't talk to him. If you want to talk to him, learn his language. If he wants to talk to you, feel free to ignore him until he learns yours.
>Why should I have to learn the language of someone who just came
>to this country within the past couple of years when I have been here
> my entire life?
You don't. But if you choose to not learn any other languages, then have the courtesy to not demand of others what you are unwilling to do yourself.
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