DShiznit 0 #51 October 20, 2003 QuoteDude, I use "etc" all the time...that sucks that it offends those folks... LMFAO!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #52 October 20, 2003 QuoteIf words like nigger and gay are offensive and those that they are used to represent are insulted by them, maybe they shouldn't use them to describe themselves. Oh, but you misunderstand. Words can have multiple meanings. People can use the word "gay" to mean homosexual and then another time use "gay" to mean ... well, whatever general derogatory use people mean by it. If they really mean "homosexual" then it's the same meaning with a negative connotation. But this use is simply a synonym for "bad". If people wanted to use "polack" to mean "Polish person" that would be perfectly reasonable. And it would STILL be rude to yell "Hey, polack!" at people as an insult. Mind you, I'm not much put out by all this. I think the loose reasoning is far more troublesome than a silly re-use of the word. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinjackflash 0 #53 October 20, 2003 So you think the movie was bright and well educated too??? couldn't resist, too easy... jack btw: all my gay friends are very bright and well educated, think its a conspiracy??? lolIt's a gas, gas, gas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #54 October 20, 2003 No, I understand perfectly. Obviously if you refer to yourself as gay, you're not trying to insult yourself, however others may use the word to insult others, or even you. My point is that just because it's the same word, it doesn't have the same meaning. There are a lot of words that are spelled and pronounced the same, but have different meanings. He called the movie gay. Did you take that to mean he thought the film liked other films of the same gender? Of course not. It's a different word that just happens to be spelled the same. The only way words have the power to insult or offend are if they are given that power by those offended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #55 October 20, 2003 QuoteThe only way words have the power to insult or offend are if they are given that power by those offended. That's a fascinating idea but it does not have the virtue of being true. Intent plays a tremendous role in insult. And longstanding societal patterns of widespread intent play a correspondingly large role. That's why the word "nigger" is so powerful that many people believe it should never be spoken in ANY context. That strikes me as overkill, but nonetheless I'm reasonably careful not to say it in such a way as to cause upset. It's simple politeness to refrain from pissing people off unnecessarily. Sometimes it's necessary of course, but this can't be one of them, is it? On the other hand, I don't think anyone was pissed off. And that's why it's been a polite discussion of language instead of a steamed-up argument about rights or feelings or something. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #56 October 20, 2003 ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! Mongloid parade I'm in tears here! Does anyone else remember the days when Gay = Happy Queer = Odd Cool = cold Wicked = Evil Hot = very warm Shag = Type of bird Sick = Vomit/ill ? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #57 October 20, 2003 QuoteROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! Mongloid parade I'm in tears here! What's green, 8 miles long, and has an IQ of 23? The St. Patricks Day parade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #58 October 20, 2003 QuoteQuoteROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! Mongloid parade I'm in tears here! What's green, 8 miles long, and has an IQ of 23? The St. Patricks Day parade. Ok, being Irish, now I'm offended. You left out the parts about the vomiting and fighting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #59 October 20, 2003 Thats funny.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #60 October 20, 2003 I just wanted to say that a movie I saw sucked, not start the 2003 Great Race/Gender/Ethnicity Debate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeatlast 0 #61 October 20, 2003 Skyrad - So the last time you told me you had a shag - you meant you had a little bird ??? Or the time you said you wanted to "shag her" What did you mean ??? Confused of London Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #62 October 20, 2003 QuoteI just wanted to say that a movie I saw sucked . . . Then why didn't you say that?Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkostas 0 #63 October 20, 2003 You have a great command of the language. And yes, hopefully this bantering will remain light, but most of all, informative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #64 October 21, 2003 QuoteCutaway is skydiver porn. The plot sucks, the acting is worst, but there's some skydiving in it. I too got it on DVD yesterday I love it, yeah the acting sucks, but it's got some great skydiving imagry and there is a BOOBIE scene tooYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #65 October 21, 2003 QuoteDude, I use "etc" all the time...that sucks that it offends those folks... OMG, that is hilarious. You get my vote as "funniest post of the day" today. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #66 October 21, 2003 Whadaya mean? You never gave a girl the bird? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #67 October 21, 2003 QuoteQuoteHang around a DZ for a few years and you'll realize that Cutaway is truer then most jumpers want to admit... Yeah, there are so many dropzones with "creeper ramps" and the key to winning the speed star event at nationals is how fast you can fall. We all wear vertical spedometers to measure that. Documentaries don't sell well. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #68 October 21, 2003 Quote>Like all movies, they have some uninformed sections . . . Well, as it was written and directed by Guy Manos, I don't think you're going to get any closer to a 'real' skydiving movie in mainstream media. I think that Guy tried his best to get skydiving out into the public. Cut Away isn't going to win any awards, but I give Guy credit for trying. He had to try to please more than the 33,000 USPA members. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #69 October 21, 2003 Stephen Baldwin supposedly earned his A license while filming Cutaway. I thought it was alright.. just didnt buy Rodman as a skydiver. I cant believe with all this discussion over Cutaway being "gay", nobody has brought up Rodman... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #70 October 21, 2003 QuoteCutaway is skydiver porn. The plot sucks, the acting is worst, but there's some skydiving in it. It's not as godawful as Drop Zone ! That film sucks on so many levels I get sick just thinking about it. Besides, look at the bright side, at least Rodman went in... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #71 October 21, 2003 QuoteQuoteDude, I use "etc" all the time...that sucks that it offends those folks... OMG, that is hilarious. You get my vote as "funniest post of the day" today. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the proper way to read into, start, and finish a proper thread hijacking. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #72 October 21, 2003 QuoteSo you think the movie was bright and well educated too??? Special Ed from Crank Yankers would be a more fitting description. Retarded, but still amusing. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #73 October 21, 2003 QuoteRetarded, but still amusing. I thought thats how you described me.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #74 October 21, 2003 Berringer and Baldwin both jumped in the movie. Rodman didn't do a single skydive.... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #75 October 21, 2003 Quote Rodman didn't do a single skydive.... Hey look everyone, a pierced pussy!!! Okay, that was crossing the line...... Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
