lewmonst 0 #1 May 28, 2004 QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger and areas that are ¼ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? What is the ratio of the area of the smallest triangle to the largest? So do you think 6th graders can get that?http://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudOnMyTongue 0 #2 May 28, 2004 I can barely get it. It's good if it's a bonus question. But too hard for a normal question. my 2 cents Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 May 28, 2004 Without an illustration, it's kinda difficult to tell.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 May 28, 2004 Maybe if you draw it out using Van Helsing characters they'll get it... You know what this tells me? I'm in the right major...Liberal Arts! Woohoo!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #5 May 28, 2004 I'll ask my 6th grader when she wakes up in the morning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #6 May 28, 2004 can I post a doc on here?http://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mailin 0 #7 May 28, 2004 a question very similar appeared on my college algebra final drill 'em while they're young! hehe JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aprilcat 0 #8 May 28, 2004 Geeze! What time is Recess??? I'd say its too friggin' hard. It reads like a middle school question--an AMBITIOUS middle school. I dated a high school algebra teacher and used to help him type up exams. His bonus questions were USUALLY something to take the edge off...some pop culture trivia ...something to make the kids laugh. I loved the answer 'Beatles? Do you mean Beetlejuice?' But when he made a serious bonus question, such as the one you posted, he didn't take off points. Thats a little heavy for a 13 y/o. Me thinks Sierpinski would benefit from a flying wedgie ~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pilotdave 0 #9 May 28, 2004 Can they use a calculator? And what's the height of an equilateral triangle? square root of 2 times the lengh of a side? Geez if I could remember what I knew in 6th grade it might help. Then again they havent done geometry yet so I'd say not many will get it. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #10 May 28, 2004 Oops! really? Well, they've been doing similar figures, polygons, triangles, ratios, proportions and all that recently. I think it's too long-winded though, I'll come up with something shorter... I think probably 5 of my 16 kids could get it... thanks lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WFFC 1 #11 May 28, 2004 QuoteSo do you think 6th graders can get that? I can balance my checkbook using Quicken. Does that count? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Miami 0 #12 May 28, 2004 If the answer is 16:1 for the length and 256:1 for the area then I think it is a good challenging extra credit question for a 6th grader. If I'm wrong then I think it's too hard! Hope this helps...Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #13 May 28, 2004 yes, you're right. Good job. now i don't know why some people are thinking square roots here... peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #14 May 28, 2004 L=16 A=256 It's not really that difficult if you look at it. I would image that even an average 12-year-old child should be able to figure out a method for dealing with it by looking at the diagrams.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #15 May 28, 2004 A 6th grader? OF COURSE!!!, they all have laptops nowadays __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laurel 0 #16 May 28, 2004 Whoa - I think I hurt myself just reading that equation. Math was never my gig...................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpinfarmer 0 #17 May 28, 2004 Now I remember why I didn't like school. It hurts just to think about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masher 1 #18 May 28, 2004 I got 8 and 64. Then I looked at the doc, and I was one iteration out. Now I get 16 and 256....-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nathaniel 0 #19 May 28, 2004 Thinking of what I did in 6th grade, I think it's just fine. The verbiage is excess, but that's OK or even desirable in an extra credit problem, it makes em think about wtf they are doing. Many of the math problems I've solved since I graduated ('00) are problems where my peers confused the relevant data with the bad. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #20 May 28, 2004 Well coming from another teacher I think it is a great "extra credit" question. I would not "DUMB" it down just because others think math is too difficult. Anything you can do do to challenge a young students mind is worth doing. Even if they dont get the answer correct, they will learn a lot in the process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #21 May 28, 2004 QuoteEven if they dont get the answer correct, they will learn a lot in the process. Like how to use GOOGLE __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #22 May 28, 2004 Well......yeah. Thats the problem with take home assignments these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #23 May 28, 2004 no google, hand-written test... I simplified it to just the length: QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? and I gave them a 2nd extra credit question. thanks lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #24 May 28, 2004 Quoteno google, hand-written test... I simplified it to just the length: QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? and I gave them a 2nd extra credit question. thanks lew Lew if it's not to late how about leaving out the The "Sierpinski Triangle Fractal" from the question.? IMO you might get more kids trrying to look at the triangle's and figure out the answer. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #25 May 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger and areas that are ¼ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? What is the ratio of the area of the smallest triangle to the largest? So do you think 6th graders can get that? Can I buy a vowel? mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
lewmonst 0 #6 May 28, 2004 can I post a doc on here?http://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #7 May 28, 2004 a question very similar appeared on my college algebra final drill 'em while they're young! hehe JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aprilcat 0 #8 May 28, 2004 Geeze! What time is Recess??? I'd say its too friggin' hard. It reads like a middle school question--an AMBITIOUS middle school. I dated a high school algebra teacher and used to help him type up exams. His bonus questions were USUALLY something to take the edge off...some pop culture trivia ...something to make the kids laugh. I loved the answer 'Beatles? Do you mean Beetlejuice?' But when he made a serious bonus question, such as the one you posted, he didn't take off points. Thats a little heavy for a 13 y/o. Me thinks Sierpinski would benefit from a flying wedgie ~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #9 May 28, 2004 Can they use a calculator? And what's the height of an equilateral triangle? square root of 2 times the lengh of a side? Geez if I could remember what I knew in 6th grade it might help. Then again they havent done geometry yet so I'd say not many will get it. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #10 May 28, 2004 Oops! really? Well, they've been doing similar figures, polygons, triangles, ratios, proportions and all that recently. I think it's too long-winded though, I'll come up with something shorter... I think probably 5 of my 16 kids could get it... thanks lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #11 May 28, 2004 QuoteSo do you think 6th graders can get that? I can balance my checkbook using Quicken. Does that count? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Miami 0 #12 May 28, 2004 If the answer is 16:1 for the length and 256:1 for the area then I think it is a good challenging extra credit question for a 6th grader. If I'm wrong then I think it's too hard! Hope this helps...Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #13 May 28, 2004 yes, you're right. Good job. now i don't know why some people are thinking square roots here... peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #14 May 28, 2004 L=16 A=256 It's not really that difficult if you look at it. I would image that even an average 12-year-old child should be able to figure out a method for dealing with it by looking at the diagrams.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #15 May 28, 2004 A 6th grader? OF COURSE!!!, they all have laptops nowadays __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laurel 0 #16 May 28, 2004 Whoa - I think I hurt myself just reading that equation. Math was never my gig...................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpinfarmer 0 #17 May 28, 2004 Now I remember why I didn't like school. It hurts just to think about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masher 1 #18 May 28, 2004 I got 8 and 64. Then I looked at the doc, and I was one iteration out. Now I get 16 and 256....-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nathaniel 0 #19 May 28, 2004 Thinking of what I did in 6th grade, I think it's just fine. The verbiage is excess, but that's OK or even desirable in an extra credit problem, it makes em think about wtf they are doing. Many of the math problems I've solved since I graduated ('00) are problems where my peers confused the relevant data with the bad. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #20 May 28, 2004 Well coming from another teacher I think it is a great "extra credit" question. I would not "DUMB" it down just because others think math is too difficult. Anything you can do do to challenge a young students mind is worth doing. Even if they dont get the answer correct, they will learn a lot in the process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #21 May 28, 2004 QuoteEven if they dont get the answer correct, they will learn a lot in the process. Like how to use GOOGLE __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #22 May 28, 2004 Well......yeah. Thats the problem with take home assignments these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #23 May 28, 2004 no google, hand-written test... I simplified it to just the length: QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? and I gave them a 2nd extra credit question. thanks lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #24 May 28, 2004 Quoteno google, hand-written test... I simplified it to just the length: QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? and I gave them a 2nd extra credit question. thanks lew Lew if it's not to late how about leaving out the The "Sierpinski Triangle Fractal" from the question.? IMO you might get more kids trrying to look at the triangle's and figure out the answer. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #25 May 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger and areas that are ¼ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? What is the ratio of the area of the smallest triangle to the largest? So do you think 6th graders can get that? Can I buy a vowel? mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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Miami 0 #12 May 28, 2004 If the answer is 16:1 for the length and 256:1 for the area then I think it is a good challenging extra credit question for a 6th grader. If I'm wrong then I think it's too hard! Hope this helps...Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #13 May 28, 2004 yes, you're right. Good job. now i don't know why some people are thinking square roots here... peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #14 May 28, 2004 L=16 A=256 It's not really that difficult if you look at it. I would image that even an average 12-year-old child should be able to figure out a method for dealing with it by looking at the diagrams.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #15 May 28, 2004 A 6th grader? OF COURSE!!!, they all have laptops nowadays __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurel 0 #16 May 28, 2004 Whoa - I think I hurt myself just reading that equation. Math was never my gig...................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinfarmer 0 #17 May 28, 2004 Now I remember why I didn't like school. It hurts just to think about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #18 May 28, 2004 I got 8 and 64. Then I looked at the doc, and I was one iteration out. Now I get 16 and 256....-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #19 May 28, 2004 Thinking of what I did in 6th grade, I think it's just fine. The verbiage is excess, but that's OK or even desirable in an extra credit problem, it makes em think about wtf they are doing. Many of the math problems I've solved since I graduated ('00) are problems where my peers confused the relevant data with the bad. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #20 May 28, 2004 Well coming from another teacher I think it is a great "extra credit" question. I would not "DUMB" it down just because others think math is too difficult. Anything you can do do to challenge a young students mind is worth doing. Even if they dont get the answer correct, they will learn a lot in the process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #21 May 28, 2004 QuoteEven if they dont get the answer correct, they will learn a lot in the process. Like how to use GOOGLE __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #22 May 28, 2004 Well......yeah. Thats the problem with take home assignments these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #23 May 28, 2004 no google, hand-written test... I simplified it to just the length: QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? and I gave them a 2nd extra credit question. thanks lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #24 May 28, 2004 Quoteno google, hand-written test... I simplified it to just the length: QuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? and I gave them a 2nd extra credit question. thanks lew Lew if it's not to late how about leaving out the The "Sierpinski Triangle Fractal" from the question.? IMO you might get more kids trrying to look at the triangle's and figure out the answer. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #25 May 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe Sierpinski Triangle Fractal shown above is created by similar triangles. Each smaller set of triangles have lengths that are ½ of the next larger and areas that are ¼ of the next larger. In the fourth triangle above on the right, what is the ratio of length of a side of the smallest triangle to the largest? What is the ratio of the area of the smallest triangle to the largest? So do you think 6th graders can get that? Can I buy a vowel? mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
