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I would really like some real data to start appearing in stead of feelings.
Thats funny coming from someone putting so many feelings in the same argument.
Its clear you have something against Vector and/or Bill.
Then he put this
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I think a meshed PC would behave even worse in the same burble.
Then you argue every point but that Your really good at arguing just for the sake of it!
I have nothing against Bill or Vectors. I own a Vector and a Wonderhog. If I was against it that much I wouldn't have them.
What I want is people to actually bring real data to this argument and not go on feelings or opinions. Feelings or opinions mean nothing when trying to prove whether this whole thing is valid. Critical thinking on this matter is what should be done instead of jumping to conclusions.
QuoteQuoteIts clear you have something against Vector and/or Bill.
I don't know if that's true or not, and I don't speak for Jim, but what I take away from his (Beatnik's) postings is that he would like to see data derived from an empirical study of the full range of pilot chute dynamics and aerodynamics.
It might be a matter of scrutinizing minutiae, but as there are fatalities (even if statistically few) associated with poor reserve PC deployment and freebag extraction I think it's a valid point for research.
Who wouldn't? The problem is there is no-one or organization that is going to conduct such a study. It's expensive and the results might be negative toward manufacturers.QuoteRStanley:
and he jumps a Racer.... its seems like this is just coming from the Racer folks.
Jim is a connoisseur of vintage gear. Did you notice the other rigs mentioned in his profile? Did you notice they're listed before the Racer? Do you know he jumps the old stuff more than anyone or any of his other gear?
Have you noticed Racers are not part of this PC issue? Have you ever jumped a Racer? Inspected a Racer?
The V3 is a good rig, but did you buy for style or function?
I bought for function and comfort. It has nothing to do with how the Vector looks. Does it look better than a Racer? I do not even have to answer that do I?
I just noticed the "newer" rig is a racer so that's why I said he jumps a racer. I have also recived PM's from Racer folks basically saying my Vector is a death trap. Not from Beatnik so I'm sorry if it seemed I was just refering to him bc I was not. He is at least discussing everything he just happens to jump a racer also so my apologies for that.
P.s. yes I have jumped a racer.
Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000
www.fundraiseadventure.com
QuoteQuoteand he jumps a Racer.... its seems like this is just coming from the Racer folks. Just an observation.
I also jump a Wonderhog and a Vector II. That doesn't get entered into the equation does it.
There are people who have never seen my Racers and others who haven't seen me under a square parachute. I am not a die hard Racer fan like you are making me out. I just want real information before coming to a conclusion.
Beatnik I think this warrents a post to you. I did not mean for it to sound like I was only refering to you.
I was more refering to PM's I have received. Sorry I did not mention that.
Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000
www.fundraiseadventure.com
QuoteI have also recived PM's from Racer folks basically saying my Vector is a death trap.
Call me crazy, but I can point out a few differences between my V3 and a live underground roadside bomb
Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!"
Flying Hellfish #828
Dudist #52
QuoteQuoteI have also recived PM's from Racer folks basically saying my Vector is a death trap.
Call me crazy, but I can point out a few differences between my V3 and a live underground roadside bomb
I was starting to believe they are the same thing....
Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000
www.fundraiseadventure.com
I also jump a Wonderhog and a Vector II. That doesn't get entered into the equation does it.
There are people who have never seen my Racers and others who haven't seen me under a square parachute. I am not a die hard Racer fan like you are making me out. I just want real information before coming to a conclusion.
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