skydiverbrian 0 #26 August 22, 2005 QuoteToo expensive. You can't use that excuse since all you have to do is smile and bat your eyes and whatever you desire is given to you! In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #27 August 22, 2005 Agreed. I had a great convention. Saw soooooo many people I haven't seen in a year and met so many new friends. It was great for me. Smaller or not. My husband seemed to have fun too. Not sure 'cause I didn't see him too much. But after looking at his credit card bill, I can tell he made a few loads! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dixieskydiver 0 #28 August 22, 2005 QuoteYou know, a great deal of people are commenting about aircraft. that's not what it's about for me. It's not about the free beer either. I drank far more Corona this year than free stuff. It's about the vibe and the people's attitude in general. This was my fourth WFFC in Rantoul (yea, that's means all of them), and this time I had BY FAR the best time. Maybe it's because of alot of things, but I tend to believe that it's the simple fact that so many naysayers and negative people stayed away. Size aside, to be, this was the best convention in 5 years (everyone knows how bad '01 in Quincy was), and if it gets bigger again, fine, but don't change the tone... I'm with Jim, I had a blast! It was a small turn out and it's SO far for me. I think a couple of shrinking years to cut off some of the bloat of the convention and get people used to doing it cheap and "roughing" it will be good for WFFC and in a few years it will be back to its former glory. But as for next year you will find me at Skyfest Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #29 August 22, 2005 $$$$$$ registration, vendor fees, camping fees, etc, etc, etcMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #30 August 22, 2005 I could'nt justify spending $140 (Myself and my Girlfriend) in registration fees for a 3 day weekend.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #31 August 22, 2005 No tunnel Any shape, size, color, & motor and I'll be there to fly at least a few hours between the partying.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #32 August 22, 2005 I missed the convention this year because I was away on business that was too lucrative to turn down. I loathe missing the convention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #33 August 22, 2005 Doesn't really appeal to me. I prefer smaller boogies like LP where I can hang with a smaller group and have a better chance of getting to know people. I'll party, but I'm not really looking for the biggest, craziest, scene out there. Same goes for the skydiving - at this point in my career, smaller boogies are just right for me - plenty of new opportunities without being overwhelming. And I hate humidity. As JohnMitchell said, why the HELL would I leave the Northwest this time of year?"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knobee 0 #34 August 22, 2005 Two words: Three Jumps. Those that have not jumped can not understand Those that have jumped can not explain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #35 August 22, 2005 1: The registration fee. I actually found myself driving up I-57 passing by Rantoul, and thought of stopping in for the day. I kept driving when I realised it would cost me and my wife $140 just to get by the front gate. 2: A history of over promising and under delivering. I knew at least one of the promised aircraft wouldn't show. I was right. 3: I can jump an otter at my home DZ. I don't need to travel to do that. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #36 August 22, 2005 The in-air zoo factor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #37 August 22, 2005 There was 4 minutes between drops on each jumprun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #38 August 22, 2005 Way too far. It's an hour and 25 minute drive, for goodness sakes!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeth 0 #39 August 22, 2005 Even though I live not far from there, I didn't go to WFFC cuz I was scared. With the low minimum opening altitude, the frequency of jump runs, the number of canopies in the air, the unpredictable landing patterns, the potential for people to be doing crazy/stupid things in the air (especially after boozing all night), and the opening over a town -- thats all too much for me at this point. Now I might've gone to hang out and just check things out, but there was no way I was gonna pay the entire registration fee just to drop by! Why can't they do a daily rate or visitor rate or something like that?"At 13,000 feet nothing else matters." PFRX!!!!! Team Funnel #174, Sunshine kisspass #109 My Jump Site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #40 August 22, 2005 Quote$$$$$$ registration, vendor fees, camping fees, etc, etc, etc camping fees? Where were gonna camp?Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #41 August 22, 2005 QuoteThe in-air zoo factor. I love to hear this from people who weren't there and some who never have been. Most of the people who complain are most of the problems.Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #42 August 22, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe in-air zoo factor. check PM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #43 August 22, 2005 Quotecamping fees No camping fees if you are in tent city.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dougjumper 0 #44 August 22, 2005 QuoteI'm with Jim, I had a blast! Yep I'm in there as well. I didnt plan on going but sure glad I did. Always good to attend the WFFC its my #4 convention. No matter what with all the negative vibes about it to include myself at times not liking the Price and registration hike but what the Hell...Only once a year you know..Cant help the BAD FUEL prices everywhere anyway. So all I can say is lets have Fun Skydive Skydive Skydive! The glass is half full or half empty doesn't matter. Let go and have the Lord guide your path. He will take care of it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #45 August 22, 2005 When I've been to the WFFC, I've had a good time. Would have loved to have gone this year, but.... I just couldn't take the time off from my new job. They might have let me, but it would've been kinda shitty for me to ask I didn't have a parachute. Now I do Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #46 August 22, 2005 just started a new job at the same time, so it wasn't really on the decision block. But to get me to go 2000 miles, it would have to offer something I can't get from the local boogies, or from driving down to LA (near family and friends and nice accomodations for free). The biplane is something I'd like to do. Another opp for 30k jumps would be nice when I'm more qualified. A big heli would appeal. Jumping with Norman Kent to get some really good shots - I would do that. But I'm not sure all of this is enough to drop out $500 before I even get on a plane. I do have family in Chicago, so best chances would be if I combined a visit to them with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #47 August 23, 2005 Missed the third WFFC in a row I might have gone to, always for the same reason. Can't afford it or get the time off. I just WISH I could get to the convention and jump my ass off, just once in my life. Sounds like WFFC has taken a real beating this year. All the "really hip" people seem to be badmouthing it, then the two fatalities couldn't have helped. Hey, a boogie's a boogie. They come and go. Maybe WFFC has had its day, but I hope not. I just feel sad to see so many people trashing it when so many other people (like me) would give their left 'nad to go just once.... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peek 20 #48 August 23, 2005 Jeth: Even though I live not far from there, I didn't go to WFFC cuz I was scared. Peek: Dear, where are you getting your information about the WFFC? What have you been told about: J: With the low minimum opening altitude P: What were you told that was? J: the frequency of jump runs, P: How often have you been told they occur? J: the number of canopies in the air P: How may have you been told are in the air at once and landing at the same time? J: the unpredictable landing patterns P: I saw a few. I did not see any collisons or even close calls. I did see someone snag a fellow jumper's canopy after landing (in the same direction) but they were both in the main landing area. There are plenty of wide open landing areas, for example, where the AFF students land! J: the potential for people to be doing crazy/stupid things in the air (especially after boozing all night) P: True, they could. But I must say that it is far more dangerous at the Convention at night! J: and the opening over a town P: Quite true, but with gigantic landing areas nearby. J: Why can't they do a daily rate or visitor rate or something like that? P: Did someone tell you the WFFC didn't? Misinformation about the WFFC abounds. We have even experienced bad-mouthing by DZO's who do not want you to go to the WFFC and have fun because they will lose a (small) amount of your business, and even go to the extreme of telling you how "scary" it is to keep you away. Please consider your sources. Anyone with common sense and a good attitude about saftey will do quite well there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bodyflight.Net 0 #49 August 23, 2005 We go to the convention faithfully every year we move in early and stay late... but this year we couldn't secure a tunnel... which could've been nice not having to actually WORK the convention for once, BUT it starts later and later every year and this year SO late that school started here 2 days before the WFFC began, so we just couldn't do it! How awful... it was sorely missed, and it IS much more expensive than previous years but as long as the dates conflict with school... we'll NEVER get to go again! Pink Suits!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,623 #50 August 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe in-air zoo factor. I love to hear this from people who weren't there and some who never have been. Most of the people who complain are most of the problems. I've been, there IS a zoo factor, but there are also plenty of places to land away from the crazies. Real reason I didn't go was the registration fee, which is excessive if you can only be there a couple of days. I went to SDC instead and did 2-plane shots all weekend for $15 a jump.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
flyangel2 2 #43 August 22, 2005 Quotecamping fees No camping fees if you are in tent city.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #44 August 22, 2005 QuoteI'm with Jim, I had a blast! Yep I'm in there as well. I didnt plan on going but sure glad I did. Always good to attend the WFFC its my #4 convention. No matter what with all the negative vibes about it to include myself at times not liking the Price and registration hike but what the Hell...Only once a year you know..Cant help the BAD FUEL prices everywhere anyway. So all I can say is lets have Fun Skydive Skydive Skydive! The glass is half full or half empty doesn't matter. Let go and have the Lord guide your path. He will take care of it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #45 August 22, 2005 When I've been to the WFFC, I've had a good time. Would have loved to have gone this year, but.... I just couldn't take the time off from my new job. They might have let me, but it would've been kinda shitty for me to ask I didn't have a parachute. Now I do Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #46 August 22, 2005 just started a new job at the same time, so it wasn't really on the decision block. But to get me to go 2000 miles, it would have to offer something I can't get from the local boogies, or from driving down to LA (near family and friends and nice accomodations for free). The biplane is something I'd like to do. Another opp for 30k jumps would be nice when I'm more qualified. A big heli would appeal. Jumping with Norman Kent to get some really good shots - I would do that. But I'm not sure all of this is enough to drop out $500 before I even get on a plane. I do have family in Chicago, so best chances would be if I combined a visit to them with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #47 August 23, 2005 Missed the third WFFC in a row I might have gone to, always for the same reason. Can't afford it or get the time off. I just WISH I could get to the convention and jump my ass off, just once in my life. Sounds like WFFC has taken a real beating this year. All the "really hip" people seem to be badmouthing it, then the two fatalities couldn't have helped. Hey, a boogie's a boogie. They come and go. Maybe WFFC has had its day, but I hope not. I just feel sad to see so many people trashing it when so many other people (like me) would give their left 'nad to go just once.... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 20 #48 August 23, 2005 Jeth: Even though I live not far from there, I didn't go to WFFC cuz I was scared. Peek: Dear, where are you getting your information about the WFFC? What have you been told about: J: With the low minimum opening altitude P: What were you told that was? J: the frequency of jump runs, P: How often have you been told they occur? J: the number of canopies in the air P: How may have you been told are in the air at once and landing at the same time? J: the unpredictable landing patterns P: I saw a few. I did not see any collisons or even close calls. I did see someone snag a fellow jumper's canopy after landing (in the same direction) but they were both in the main landing area. There are plenty of wide open landing areas, for example, where the AFF students land! J: the potential for people to be doing crazy/stupid things in the air (especially after boozing all night) P: True, they could. But I must say that it is far more dangerous at the Convention at night! J: and the opening over a town P: Quite true, but with gigantic landing areas nearby. J: Why can't they do a daily rate or visitor rate or something like that? P: Did someone tell you the WFFC didn't? Misinformation about the WFFC abounds. We have even experienced bad-mouthing by DZO's who do not want you to go to the WFFC and have fun because they will lose a (small) amount of your business, and even go to the extreme of telling you how "scary" it is to keep you away. Please consider your sources. Anyone with common sense and a good attitude about saftey will do quite well there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #49 August 23, 2005 We go to the convention faithfully every year we move in early and stay late... but this year we couldn't secure a tunnel... which could've been nice not having to actually WORK the convention for once, BUT it starts later and later every year and this year SO late that school started here 2 days before the WFFC began, so we just couldn't do it! How awful... it was sorely missed, and it IS much more expensive than previous years but as long as the dates conflict with school... we'll NEVER get to go again! Pink Suits!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #50 August 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe in-air zoo factor. I love to hear this from people who weren't there and some who never have been. Most of the people who complain are most of the problems. I've been, there IS a zoo factor, but there are also plenty of places to land away from the crazies. Real reason I didn't go was the registration fee, which is excessive if you can only be there a couple of days. I went to SDC instead and did 2-plane shots all weekend for $15 a jump.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
