pchapman 278 #1 December 9, 2010 I'm trying to get my facts straight on this issue in a discussion with a friend: What fatalities have there been from skydivers falling into a bonfire? I know there was one in the last decade, but am not sure if there was a second. There was the fellow who fell through a windshield of a car deliberately placed in a bonfire, at Crosskeys, NJ, some years back. Given how much skydivers like to play with objects in the fire pit, there are probably a bunch of less well reported injuries too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 203 #2 December 9, 2010 I'm surprised we haven't seen more injuries and such from bonfires over the years. Back in the day the Herd had a milk can cannon. Anyone remember that? Friend of mine took a lid to his lid and was never quite right after.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #3 December 9, 2010 I saw a guy destroy a cell phone by accidentally dropping it in a bonfire. And don't ask me how I know this, but when you're lighting the bonfire, be careful not to use avgas when you think you're using jet fuel.You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 December 9, 2010 QuoteI'm trying to get my facts straight on this issue in a discussion with a friend: What fatalities have there been from skydivers falling into a bonfire? I know there was one in the last decade, but am not sure if there was a second. There was the fellow who fell through a windshield of a car deliberately placed in a bonfire, at Crosskeys, NJ, some years back. Given how much skydivers like to play with objects in the fire pit, there are probably a bunch of less well reported injuries too. The incident you are referring to in NJ was my friend and former Golden Knight Paul Rafferty. There were at least two other instances that I can think of where people fell into the bonfire while intoxicated just a few days apart at the same location and had to be life flighted out. I am not positive if both died or not."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #5 December 9, 2010 That was a sad, sad thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #6 December 10, 2010 From the CSPA coach one reference material. QuoteBurns: • Although rare, the occasional drunk skydiver may fall in the fire. Fireworks may also present a problem • STAY SAFE! Do not let the rescuer get burned trying to save the victim. • Treating a burn begins with stopping the burning process. Cool the burned area with cool running water for several minutes. If an ambulance is coming, continue running water over the burned area until the ambulance arrives. • Look for blistering, sloughing, or charred (blackened) skin. Blistering or sloughing (skin coming off) means the top layer of skin is completely damaged and complications are likely. Charring indicates even deeper damage to all three layers of skinHave you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 278 #7 December 10, 2010 QuoteFrom the CSPA coach one reference material. That says something when bonfire accidents are treated as something to discuss in a skydiving manual! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #8 December 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteI'm trying to get my facts straight on this issue in a discussion with a friend: What fatalities have there been from skydivers falling into a bonfire? I know there was one in the last decade, but am not sure if there was a second. There was the fellow who fell through a windshield of a car deliberately placed in a bonfire, at Crosskeys, NJ, some years back. Given how much skydivers like to play with objects in the fire pit, there are probably a bunch of less well reported injuries too. The incident you are referring to in NJ was my friend and former Golden Knight Paul Rafferty. There were at least two other instances that I can think of where people fell into the bonfire while intoxicated just a few days apart at the same location and had to be life flighted out. I am not positive if both died or not. Yep.........It came as a shocker to many! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #9 December 10, 2010 I saw a guy fall in the pit at Z-hills Holiday Boogie a few years ago. He went to the hospital the next day with 3rd degree burns on his lower leg. As I recall, he wasn't fucking around, just drunk and stumbled and lost his balance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #10 December 10, 2010 I've walked through a number of bonfires. Under the influence of Jack D. But all in the 80's. Okay, maybe a couple in the 90's.... hm 2000's? I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doog 0 #11 December 10, 2010 Yeah, that was the Easter Boogie in either 09 or 08 as I recall. The guy got shit faced, went for a dunk in the swoopin pond and then stood back to the fire to dry off..and fell backwards. The fire pit had recently been cleaned out (debris) and was deeper than usual. Wasn't easy to get out. Booze..gotta luv it.DOOG Muff 846 All you people are here to make sure I have a good time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #12 December 10, 2010 Quote Back in the day the Herd had a milk can cannon. Anyone remember that? I remember the Herd's milk can cannon at ZHills one year. Things got a little tense after a particularly well-placed shot put the lid through the windshield of someone's car. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #13 December 10, 2010 i watched scotty carbone drive a golf cart into a bon fire. he didn't know the brakes don't work. no damage but funny as hell to watch his face as he parked in the middle of the fire!! ____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #14 December 10, 2010 We also had one a couple years before that on New Years Eve. The guy jumped the fire, made it across then fell backward into the pit. Mostly burned his hands and forearms when he put his hands down to break his fall.You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #15 December 10, 2010 I always looked forward to hooking up with Paul again one day. ____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #16 December 10, 2010 Rick and doog, Funny, or sad as the case may be, but neither of those are the one I was talking about. I don't think I've been there on New Years since about '05. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #17 December 10, 2010 Quote Rick and doog, Funny, or sad as the case may be, but neither of those are the one I was talking about. I don't think I've been there on New Years since about '05. Yeah I can recall at least 2 incidents but there were probably moreYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #18 December 10, 2010 Similar incident in Z-Hills for New Years 08 I think. Guy walked over a burning car and fell, burnt his ass and arms, lucky as hell he didn't fall in or it would have been a lot worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #19 December 10, 2010 QuoteSimilar incident in Z-Hills for New Years 08 I think. Guy walked over a burning car and fell, burnt his ass and arms, lucky as hell he didn't fall in or it would have been a lot worse. Yeah the whole burning car thing kinda pissed off the fire marshall in Z-HillsYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #20 December 10, 2010 Quote Yeah the whole burning car thing kinda pissed off the fire marshall in Z-Hills I wonder why? I thought this thread was going to be about someone from these forums coming to your house. I think it is horrible that people die in bonfires. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #21 December 10, 2010 If I never see someone burning a car at a bonfire where people are drinking etc. I won't have to be really nasty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #22 December 10, 2010 Quote That was a sad, sad thing. Yes. It was. Listen, all. I know that there's a LOT of bravado and testosterone around the bonfire at night. I understand pressures and daring.... but please Please PLEASE do NOT play games with fire. Fire is UNFORGIVING! Even if you survive, you don't necessarily "win" - scorched lungs, scarred tissue and jobst suits, chronic pain. While in nursing school... years and years back... I worked with some burn victims - you NEVER get that smell out of you memory. In residency, one of the medical students that rotated with us was a burn victim. I've had both personal and professional interactions with burns. Do NOT play with fire. Just don't. It's not funny. It's not a test of manliness. Please learn from the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #23 December 10, 2010 One of the stupid things that come with testicals, Is "forgetting the past".... No one wants to see the stupidity...but trust me, it will not stop, as long as young men have testicals! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #24 December 10, 2010 That's one call I'm glad I never had to deal with as an EMT. I never had to deal with a burn victim thankfully. Give me bloody messes and bones sticking out any day. Burns...no thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites