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Why does PISA give 120sqft. hornet 144 lbs. MAX loading when PD recommends MAX 190 lbs. for SABRE 120sqft. (and about the same for sabre2) Are the flight characteristics so much different in those two canopies loaded the same way or is PD more brave in giving the MAX loading numbers ?

I guess this has been asked often before , but I would like to hear opinions on Hornet´s How they differ from sabre ? If u prefer sabre why so? Whats worth paying so much more money ? (any kinds of opinions are welcome, but please let me know if you haven´t flown both)

What i hear is Spectre flares worse/shorter than Sabre . Even the Spectre flyers admit it. Now I have never tried a spectre but thats what I hear.

ROTFLMAO !!!

expensive ? how come ?

In Finland we dont considerate jumpers as "customers" . Every DZ is a club (owned by its members). No DZ here is a business. No one gets paid of doing manifest or what ever. Only free jumps . Thats what makes it home.

Is there any Unwanted reserve rides caused by Cypres ? How many ? Someone told me there is only one case : Cypres fired in flare, the reason is not sure.. But I do not quite belive him. There must be more.

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http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=174848;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Over here Rgoper just recalled a 98MPH measurement with a laser by hooknswoop. I guess that was done with the VX 69 I wonder what kinda speeds Luis Cani had on his VX 46

How about jumping in a kayak ? Thanks for the idea !!

Sounds so funny when you guys have jumped many jumps but still dont know how to pack !! In our DZ even the first-timers pack their own chute after using them. Usually after 5 jumps every student can pack without instructions. All student packings are inspected in 2 sections. First when the canopy is in ones shoulder, (pro pack ) and again when one has done a nice dish of spaghetti on top of the body.

but would anyone have enough balls to jump with an FXC !!! ???

I never understood why some people like to fly in the opening position from the beginning to the end...

I have been wondering why other DZ´s talk about Formation skydiving and some others Relative Work. Why so ? are they both exactly the same ? Some one told me Relative work is about bigger pictures and FS smaller ones.. ??? Any logic or a story here ?

pretty cool Stacy.. Does it still look as good when you look it from distance ?

I use open only Only when i dive through a cluod (wet or flakes) then i hope i had a full face.

I fly a Vector II and 150 sabre at the moment. (b-student) Vector II seems a bit unreliable for head-down. The riser-covers are sortaf "stickers". So if there would be any extra lines loose on the bottom of the container risers could easilly come out. I guess Vector II isnt too much for Free.. What is ? and Why ? Lot of people say Wings or Javelin isnt good for free , but then again a lot of people fly both head-down. Is mirage the one and only ? BTW. If you have any experience/stories on situations where one has had a horseshoe/something else becouse of the rig not handling freeflying, please share those stories.

I sure hope you didnt get molested by this fella ´ !! 8)

Now as this thread has turned into a meeting of finnish "spuge" I might ask u guys why arent you in Hanko ? I had the impression Vesa was but isnt anymore ... (or are u posting from your laptops ?)

What does the law say about TP ? Isnt dropping any items from the sky intentionally considered illegal ? (unless its an emergency) at least here in Finland it is. Sounds like fun though .. I guess I gotta try that also.. 8)

Photographers and others ... U think this is a fake foto ?

I think this is one nice Swoop with a board... Its done by Jussi Laine in Finland (Hanko I suppose) http://personal.inet.fi/yhdistys/slk/KUVIA/1014.jpg

Two different movie clips about two different skydivers. One is about Graig Gasson, and the other is about Joe Jennings. Both of those films have exactly the same footage about jumping with a rig in ones hands. In the Gasson-film they say its gasson whos jumping and in the Jennings film they say its Jennigs whos jumping. Something aint right here ! Also when you add in the fact that they dont tell you in the film that the skydiver (who ever the person is) is attached into his legstraps by a wire, but they actually lie you that he is only holding his rig in his hands, these clips smeel like shit. Here you can find the Graig Gasson film : ftp://ftp.skydivingmovies.com/public/from TV/ (select a file called : ripleys_greg_gasson_plane_to_plane.mpg) Joe Jennings film: http://www.joejennings.com/1000k.mov Have I misunderstood something ?

I still dont know who took the pic. 8(

By the way vesa. Do you know who took that pic? was it Kusti ?