KrisFlyZ

Dont you think the added year/experience also adds a lot performance/skillwise?. The performance decreased 20% over the year. I cannot see the point you are trying to make . Kris.

I am not so sure the CG shift accounts for all of the performance increase. Can you post some links to material that discuss CG of gliders and the relation to L/D performance? The hanwags are 2 inches longer than my usual shoes and about 0.25-0.5 inches taller. Wearing hanwags makes the suit fit a bit tighter. That has an effect on performance. Suit fit has about 20% impact on performance(read below). On a suit that has the legwing tailored like the V2 where the trailing edge of the wing attaches near the front of the feet, creates lots of camber. My Phantom was made for me when I weighed nearly 90kg. July last year(weighing 78-80 kg) the L/D in the suit was 2.1-2.2 on average skydives ( 2.4 on the best ones) and 2.4+ on BASE jumps of over 35 secs delay. Towards the end of the year(72 kg) the L/D was less than 1.8. About 20% decrease than average performance. In your experiments with weights, how much improvement is due to weights alone? Any suit that fits poorly enough to allow you to wear hanwag shoes is not optimal to begin with. How can you conclude that there is a major benefit is from CG shift alone? Kris.

I don't have a suit to compete in. Even cancelling my WS BASE plans this year. Kris.

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My understanding of 'airlocks' in the wingsuit context is that they are used on the opposite inlet(back inlet when belly flying and vice versa). When flying on the belly, the airlock of the front inlet gets pushed out of the way by the air entering the inlet and the pressure keeps the back inlet closed. These should not cause any more problems than a similar wing inlet without an airlock and without the back inlet. Kris.

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Well they can send demo suits to Headcorn or I'll have to go to Zflock 3.5 . Kris.

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O.k this is simply a matter of finding someone that will fly with you. Flocking is about flying at a happy medium. If you want to beat him at this game...just start another thread in this forum asking which suit is the best . Kris.

How does the build of you fellow flockers compare to you? And how tall area you? Kris.

Bigger suit is my vote. Or you can be the base. Hey Jarno, if the guys he's flying with have not figured out a way of flying with him or, including him in the dive plan, I only see a bigger suit as the answer. He's 235 lbs exit weight , depending on who he is flying with and how tall he is, technique may not be the issue here. I based that answer by looking at his profile, even though I didn't mention it. Kris.

What suit are you flying? If possible, get a bigger suit. Kris.

It is possible to fly perfectly horizontal or even headhigh with the arm wings collapsed and the leg wing fully open, even on a big suit. Kris.

Usually, the tracking suit with the most area will perform the best. With tracking, body area distribution is really important. The pressurised tracking suit and the EG Corvus are your other options. A tight RW suit with inflatable booties should do pretty good as well. Kris.

Anyone in Europe/UK buy one? Where? The only place I can find one is http://www.gps4less.co.uk/ and it says WBT 201 but does not say wintec. Kris.

And rig size...height and weight cannot be changed much. Rig size can be. That is around 2.4 L/D, not bad for a 8500' skydive. Kris.

If basic angle control is missing, the gainer offers no advantage over a regular exit. A regular exit( this is not 'flat' but can be very stable.) will get one away from the wall much faster than a gainer. Gainers look cool. Kris.

??? For example, to fly from Smellveggan(940m altitude and 1600m to landing area) and open over land, one would need an average glide ratio of 1600/800 = 2(assuming a 140m opening altitude). Or, one would need a 2.4 L/D 1600/660 assuming a 140m opening altitude and 140m to get the flight started. When flying from the airplane, due to the starting speed if we ignore the first 10-15secs, the number we get is L/D(steady state glide ratio). On a BASE jump if we include the exit and calculate distance travelled/height, I am calling it Average Glide Ratio. Kris.

I'd add: "...with some kind of objective measurement system." because he based it solely on subjective data, with no objective measurements. Wingsuit BASE can be a proper mind twister. On good exits, it looks and feels like flight starts very soon. It did make me feel a bit like superman. I posted a video and pics of one of my exits from Kjerag #6 last year. Looking at the video later in the year, I realized that at 11.5 secs the overall angle achieved is more than 52 degrees. That is not even 1:1 average glide ratio, not to be confused with L/D, assuming height of 960m and distance to lighthouse of 750m. Kris.

Too close to the visa appointment date(28th June). I will not be free tro travel anywhere in Europe until I travel to Norway first. There will be lots of oppportunity to come fly with you guys later in the year though . Kris.

Just messing with Jarno . Did a few jumps on the V2. Only got 3 jumps from altitude and 3 HopnPops (1 from 5K, 2 from 3450'). Would be surprised if the one jump I logged shows better than 2 L/D. Kris.

The performance flying article on the PF website. Also look at Robi flying close to the wall in FTL, camera mounted on hip looking forward, there is a good view of the arm wing. Start by stretching out the wing lightly during flight and then cut back by rotating the part below the elbow and bringing it in just a little. The wing tip gripper should be vertical. Kris.

Don't know what bladders on kites are...the end of the arm wing should look like part of a cylinder. Kris.

Yup, there can be confusion when people talk about numbers. Especially when L/D from BASE flights with ultra thin and light rigs are compared to L/D from skydives. Quotes from Yuri's post. The above is talk about Z-Flock comp L/D. If you are talking about and infering the 0.5 from that...then the L/D Robi flew in the Stupino comp is (about 0.5-0.6)less than what he gets on his BASE flights. Kris.

Please read and understand what Yuri said in that post. Your interpretation of it is wrong. Kris.