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  1. i think she should be punished... however, 1-6yrs is a bit extreme. Maybe ..90 days plus a $15,000 pay out to local authorities for incured expenses. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  2. Seen that video before.... The first time I saw it I felt bad for the kid and wondered if he lived... Once I realized what the kid was doing, my sympathy was gone.... This video should be an advertisment for KARMA!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  3. An excellent article that shares my view points exactly... I too was a liberal at one point, and 5 years ago, that changed... I would never be able to write anything as detailed and literate like this guy did to explain how I felt and when my views have shifted. A very good article, thanks for posting it!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  4. I just watched that video..... I can't imagine something like that going on over here in the US. I only say that because if some punk did that to me, I would probably stab him in the leg right on the spot. Wouldn't want to kill him, just make him learn that every action has an opposite reaction!! In some neighborhoods though, they would just shoot the little bitch in the face. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  5. I am just curious how you came up with this statement... See, i sense a LOT of hatered coming from you. A "REDNECK ASSHOLE" ... Where do you get that from Honey??? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  6. http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/19/technology/google.reut/index.htm you can set it up at : http://labs.google.com ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  7. My rights aren't under attack.... Who says we need a license to have sex? Was that in the article? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  8. storm1977

    Kinsey

    Maybe to true sampling of the average population by actual scientist.... Not pedophiles trained to give blow jobs to 5 yr old boys!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  9. storm1977

    Kinsey

    The previous article was discussing how Kinseys work was a good distraction for Truman.... Who at the time was getting great critism... If you wish to ignor the "FACTS" in the article so be it, but you would better served to read a piece by a Phd in the field. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  10. storm1977

    Kinsey

    read it, it is not a comparison.... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  11. storm1977

    Kinsey

    Yeah.... Cuz I blindly accecpt the work of pedophiles who have been trained to use a stop watch!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  12. storm1977

    Kinsey

    A good read for you. Kinsey and the Homosexual Revolution by Judith Reisman, Ph.D.[1] Judith Reisman, Ph.D., President of The Institute For Media Education, received her doctorate in Communication from Case Western Reserve University. She authored the Department of Justice/Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention report, "Images of Children, Crime and Violence" (1989), Kinsey, Sex and Fraud (Reisman & Eichel, 1990) and Soft Porn Plays Hardball (1991). She has appeared in scientific journals Ethology and Sociobiology, The New Universities Quarterly (England), The New York University Review of Law and Social Change, and has chapters and citations in numerous academic texts, scholarly books and lay books. The Historical Context Truman took office in 1945 and shortly thereafter released the atomic bomb. Kofsky's documentation suggests that Kinsey's revolutionary report was a welcome public diversion for Truman's administration. However, while the A-bomb took the lives of thousands and did untold damage to Japan for generations, "Kinsey's Bomb" has taken the lives of millions and is fomenting the disintegration of the local school, university, and public control, nationwide. The 1945 A-Bomb: World War II ended in 1945 after America, under scientists headed by Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, and like a modern Prometheus, dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In an instant, all of America was reeling, as both joy and anguish hit the nation with the force of that nuclear blast. Emotion rode high, for along with the immense relief that "it worked" and the brutal war was ended, came the quaking realization that while God had created the earth, science could now destroy it. On the one hand, Americans were awed by Oppenheimer's ability to end the worldwide threat of war. On the other hand, our faith in ourselves as the world's savior was shattered by both the nuclear scare and ensuing newsreels of burning Japanese children, subverting our sense of moral integrity and who we really were as Americans. Aided by an army that now dispensed condoms, Yankee soldier-saviors of Europe and Asia broke the promises of their Puritan homeland. GIs returned home to wives and sweethearts in 1946 with the highest rate of venereal disease since the original VD epidemics of World War I. Yet, the overwhelming VD epidemic which raged overseas was quenched in the U.S. as young lads overflowing with penicillin waited for the marriage bed to carnally embrace the "girl next door." The 1948 A-Bomb: Three years later, after decades of clandestine preparation and a relentless publicity campaign, Dr. Kinsey launched what was then called "The Kinsey A-Bomb" on America's now fragile sense of moral virtue. Wrapped in Oppenheimer's flag of science as the final authority, Kinsey's fraudulent sex science statistics seemed to "prove" middle America to be a nation of sexual hypocrites, liars, cowards and closet deviates, despite the fact that all of Kinsey's data were repudiated by the then current public health data. While the Armed Services found skyrocketing VD and illegitimacy rates abroad, we found no such domestic rates for these disorders or for abortion, rape and other sex crimes and sexual disorders. Wrong or right, the fighting men might be misbehaving overseas but by and large they were not doing over here, what they were doing over there. Despite the common sense fact of low rates of illegitimacy and VD, despite personal knowledge of faithful and virtuous family and friends, mainstream America was dramatically shaken by Kinsey's data. The popular press hawked Kinsey as a diversion from Truman's ominous cold-war warnings, heralding the astonishing scientific findings-that 98% of men and roughly half of women had premarital sex, 95% of American men were legally sex offenders and 10% or more of men were largely homosexual. And, while no one noted that 317 infants and children were "tested" for Kinsey's child sex data, educators repeated his conclusions-that children were sexual from birth, hence school sex education, Kinsey style, should be mandated. The question anyone should be asking is: How did Kinsey get the statistics on childhood sexuality... that were to revolutionize the schoolroom, courtroom, pressroom, and bedroom? More succinctly put, did the Kinsey team participate in the pedophile abuse of 317 infants and children? Below is a reproduction of... "Table 34. Examples of multiple orgasm in pre-adolescent males. Some instances of higher frequencies" (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, 1948). How were these figures gleaned? AGE NO. OF ORGASMS TIME INVOLVED 5 mon. 3 ? 11 mon. 10 1 hr. 11 mon. 14 38 min 7 9 min. 2 yr. 11 65 min. 2.5 yr. 4 2 min. 4 yr. 6 5 min. 4 yr. 17 10 hr. 4 yr. 26 24 hr. 7 yr. 7 3 hr. 8 yr. 8 2 hr. 9 yr. 7 68 min. 10 yr. 9 52 min. 10 yr. 14 24 hr. 11 yr. 11 1 hr. 11 yr. 19 1 hr. 12 yr. 7 3 hr. 12 yr. 12 2 hr. 12 yr. 15 1 hr. 13 yr. 7 24 min. 13 yr. 8 2.5 hr. 13 yr. 9 8 hr. 26 70 sec. 14 yr. 11 4 hr. Kinsey's Research on Child Orgasm Dr. Alfred Kinsey's research on child orgasm is described in Chapter 5 of his book Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948).[7] Some of the observations are summarized in Tables 30-34 of the book. The numbers of the children in the five tables were, respectively, 214, 317, 188, 182, and 28. The minimum ages were, respectively, one year, two months, five months, (ages of children not recorded for Table 33), and five months. The tables identify sex experiments; for example, Table 32 speaks of: "Speed of pre-adolescent orgasm; Duration of stimulation before climax; Observations timed with second hand or stop watch." Did Kinsey instigate or encourage these practices? And did he actually use pedophiles to obtain the data for Tables 30-34? In his book, acting as the on-site reporter, Kinsey did not clearly describe his own role. However, Kinsey's close colleague, C. A. Tripp, made a revealing statement in a 1991 televised interview by Phil Donahue: [Reisman is] talking about data that came from pedophiles, that he [Kinsey] would listen only to pedophiles who were very careful, used stopwatches, knew how to record their thing, did careful surveys....[T]hey were trained observers.[8] Two questions cry out for an answer: What was the nature of the training given to these "trained observers"? And, who "trained" them? Perhaps Dr. Tripp or others can answer these questions. A 1991 book review in the respected British medical journal, The Lancet, noted: [T]he important allegations from the scientific viewpoint are the imperfections in the [Kinsey] sample and unethical, possibly criminal observations on children....Kinsey...has left his former co-workers some explaining to do.[9] Tripp is not the only former Kinsey colleague to admit that actual pedophiles were involved in the Kinsey Institute's child sexuality studies. A taped telephone interview with Dr. Paul Gebhard, former head of the Kinsey Institute and Kinsey co-author, also confirms this fact: Interviewer: "So, do pedophiles normally go around with stopwatches?" Dr. Paul Gebhard: "Ah, they do if we tell them we're interested in it!" Interviewer: "And clearly, [the orgasms of] at least 188 children were timed with a stopwatch, according to...." Dr. Gebhard: "So, second hand or stopwatch. OK, well, that's, ah, you refreshed my memory. I had no idea that there were that many." Interviewer: "These experiments by pedophiles on children were presumably illegal." Dr. Gebhard: "Oh yes."[10] Molesting Children in the Name of Science In Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, Dr. Kinsey reported that the data on the 317 children came from "9 of our adult male subjects."[11] However, Dr. John Bancroft, current Director of the Kinsey Institute, contradicted this claim. After examining the data, Dr. Bancroft indicated that the data for Table 31 came from a single adult male subject.[12] There are a number of other instances where Kinsey's published claims about numerical or factual data-claims with important implications if true-are now believed to be misleading or false.[13,14,15] A review of Kinsey's original data, claims and possible involvement is long overdue.[16,17] Kinsey's "trained observers" tested babies "5 months in age," for repeated orgasms via: ...empirical study and statistical procedures... which resulted in...reported observations on such specifically sexual activities as erection, pelvic thrust and several other characteristics of true orgasm in a list of 317 pre-adolescent boys, ranging between infants of 5 months and adolescence age.[18] Orgasm was defined as follows: Extreme tension with violent convulsions: ...sudden heaving and jerking of the whole body... gasping... hands grasping, mouth distorted, sometimes with tongue protruding; whole body or parts of it spasmodically twitching...violent jerking of the penis...groaning, sobbing, or more violent cries, sometimes with an abundance of tears (especially among younger children).... hysterical laughing, talking, sadistic or masochistic reactions... extreme trembling, collapse, loss of color, and sometimes fainting of subject.... some...suffer excruciating pain and may scream ...if the penis is even touched....some...before the arrival of orgasm, will fight away from the partner and may make violent attempts to avoid climax although they derive definite pleasure from the situation.[19] Lester Caplan, M.D., Diplomate, the American Board of Pediatrics, reviewing Kinsey's Chapter 5 (as above) said, "One person could not do this to so many children-these children had to be held down or subject to strapping down, otherwise they would not respond willingly,"[20] especially if, as Dr. Gebhard notes, a cinema record was being made.[21] Child interviews were unusually long. Kinsey said after two hours, "the [adult] becomes fatigued and the quality of the record drops."[22] Still, Kinsey reported 24-hour orgasm "interviews" of a four-, a 10- and a 13-year-old;[23] a four-year-old for 10 hours; a nine and 13-year-old for eight hours; and so on.[24] Dr. Gebhard's taped phone interview further details some of these techniques.[25] Dr. Kinsey even reported that some observers "induced...erections [in the children]...over periods of months or years,"[26] but that the Kinsey team interviewed no "psychotics who were handicapped with poor memories, hallucination, or fantasies that distorted the fact."[27] What kind of men were they, this Kinsey team? The question remains: Who did these experiments? As noted, the Kinsey team reported on a cadre of "trained observers." In Kinsey's own words... Better data came from adult males who have had sexual contacts with younger boys and who, with their adult backgrounds, are able to recognize and interpret the boys' experiences. Unfortunately ....[only] 9 of our adult male subjects have observed such orgasm. Some of these adults are technically trained persons who have kept diaries or other records which have been put at our disposal....on 317 pre-adolescents who were either observed in self- masturbation or....with other boys or older adults.[28] There are serious questions which must be answered by the Kinsey Institute directors-for Kinsey's is arguably the most influential model for scientific sex taught to the nations' schoolchildren today. The proposed Congressional investigation is critical for that reason alone. How did the Kinsey team know that an 11-month-old had 10 orgasms in one hour? (See Table this article.) How did they verify these data? Where were the children's parents? Have attempts been made to locate the children? Who were the subjects of Table 34?[29,30] Certainly these were not the children pictured in the publicity photographs which were distributed to the press and the gullible academic world, such as the little, braided girl of roughly four years, sitting with "Uncle Prock" in innocent play. Further, Dr. Gebhard claimed in a letter to me, that they did no follow-up on these children since it was "impossible or too expensive."[31] Later Gebhard said Kinsey was correct, some children were followed up and "we do have some names" of the children.[32] There is still no answer to the question, "Where are the children of Table 34?" It is finally in the hands of Congress to determine what really happened at the Kinsey Institute. H.R. 2749, the Child Protection and Ethics in Education Act of 1995, is a bill to determine if Kinsey's two principal books on human sexual behavior "are the result of any fraud or criminal wrongdoing." Clearly a useful step would be the gathering of facts on the work of Kinsey and his colleagues and a public disclosure of these facts in a responsible fashion. The U.S. Congress is in a strong position to carry out this kind of fact-finding as a precursor to legislation. An attempt should be made to answer certain questions that bear directly or indirectly on H.R. 2749: * Did Kinsey and his colleagues behave in an ethical fashion in the way they collected and published data from human subjects, especially children? * Apart from the ethical considerations, did they analyze and publish their data correctly from the scientific point of view? * Were federal funds solicited, used, and accounted for appropriately? * Do the answers to the preceding three questions indicate any violations of federal law? If the information collected and published by Kinsey proves, on examination, to be badly flawed or to involve fraud or criminal wrongdoing, what are the implications for the use of this information in science, education, law and public policy? Specifically, to what extent should the federal government[33] fund or recall the dissemination and use of this information? Kinsey's Figures on Homosexuality With the above in mind, it is shocking that, almost overnight, following release of Kinsey's Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (and a succession of earlier private, public relations briefings at the Kinsey Institute for favorable interviewers), books, articles, films, news clips, cartoons, radio, TV, and front-page stories appeared coast to coast as part of a publicity campaign to institutionalize Kinsey's claims. Americans believed "the most famous man for ten years" that primitive, sexually permissive cultures were happier than were Mr. and Mrs. Jones. However, without question, any "scientists" who reprint and encourage production of data on child sexuality which have been taken from child sex offenders engaged in "manual or oral" sex with babies and children, are not scientists but propagandists-indeed guilty of admitted criminal sexual conduct, by the descriptions in their publications, whether the sexual offender(s) were identified and prosecuted or not. To trust anything these men or their disciples produce is to put one's faith in those who use the language of science to accomplish personal, criminal, and/or sexual interests. Hence, whatever Kinsey's claims of homosexual percentages and normality were, these become, pragmatically, as invalid as his child sexuality data. Kinsey fathered not only the sexual revolution, as Hugh Hefner and others have said, but the homosexual revolution as well. Harry Hay gave Kinsey that credit when Hay read in 1948 that Kinsey found "10%" of the male population homosexual. Following the successful path of the Black Civil Rights movement, Hay, a long-time communist organizer, said 10% was a political force which could be melded into a "sexual minority" only seeking "minority rights." With Kinsey as the wind in his sails, Hay formed the Mattachine Society. But 26% (1,400) of Kinsey's alleged 5,300 white male subjects were already "sex offenders."[34] As far as the data can be established, an additional 25% were incarcerated prisoners; some numbers were big city "pimps," "hold-up men," "thieves;" roughly 4% were male prostitutes as well as sundry other criminals; and some hundreds of homosexual activists at various "gay bars" and other haunts from coast to coast.[35] This group of social outcasts and deviants were then redefined by the Kinsey team as representing your average "Joe College." With adequate press and university publicity, the people believed what they were told by our respectable scientists, that mass sexual perversion was common nationwide-so our sex education and our laws must be changed to reflect Kinsey's "reality." Following the release of Kinsey, Sex and Fraud,[36] the then Kinsey Institute Director, Dr. June Reinisch, initiated a "CONFIDENTIAL," international, 87-page mass-mailing of accusatory materials calling upon recipients to repudiate "Judith Reisman's accusations." One of the accusations Reinisch wanted repudiated was the fact that Kinsey's 10% to 47% or more homosexual data were fraudulently generalized to the "general public." (Kinsey's homosexual figures were exposed as wholly false in 1948 by Albert Hobbs et al, as well as by several other scientists then and since.) In her letter to past Kinsey Director and Kinsey co-author Dr. Paul Gebhard, Reinisch denies the Kinsey team's culpability for the child sex abuse data and states that the Kinsey team never did "conduct experiments." She asks Gebhard's aid in discrediting me. She adds: Further, with regard to sampling and the generalizability of the findings to a broader portion of Americans, throughout both volumes Kinsey very clearly identifies exactly which data from which groups he is referring to when drawing conclusions. He never used data from the special samples, derived from such populations as the gay community or prisons, to generalize to the general public.[37] Unfortunately, Dr. Gebhard wrote back to Reinisch on December 6, 1990 that she was wrong and that Kinsey did use "the gay community," pedophiles and prisoners to generalize to the population at large. Gebhard writes: In your recent letter of December 3, which I gather was sent to a number of individuals as well as me, you refuted Judith Reisman's allegations about Kinsey and the Institute. However, I fear that your final paragraph on page 1 may embarrass you and the university if it comes to Reisman's attention. Hence I want to warn you and relevant university officials so that some damage control might be devised. The paragraph ends with this sentence: "He never used data from the special samples, derived from such populations as the gay community or prisons, to generalize to the general public." This statement is incorrect. Kinsey did mix male prison inmates in with his sample used in Sexual Behavior in the Human Male.... As to generalizing to a wider population, in his first volume Kinsey did generalize to the entire U.S. population. See, for one example, the tables on page 188 and 220 where he clearly extrapolates to the U.S..... I am distressed that neither you nor your staff seem to be familiar with Kinsey's first book nor with The Kinsey Data and consequently produced the erroneous statement in your letter.[38] Kinsey is a powerful example of one's personal orientation affecting one's science and the moral shape of society. What could be the motive of Kinsey's fraudulent data, which often found up to even half of average American males homosexual? Quite possibly, it amounts to Kinsey's wishful thinking, which he quantified in order to recreate others in his own distorted image. Was Kinsey himself a closet homosexual, pedophile or pederast? In the past, science fraud has taken place for economic and political reasons-but with Kinsey, was his "science" rather the outgrowth of personal morality and sexual proclivity? If that were true, he has certainly not been the last. In recent years, the world has seen other "men of science" (Hamer, LeVay, Pillard et al) whose work lacks objectivity and who seem to be justifying their own lives with their [questionable] findings. Were these scientists making claims about beetles, fauna or supernovae, there would be less cause for alarm; however, the travesty is that-in a culture in which science is the preferred religion (a no-fault religion) and scientists its high priests-these men's words are being received as "gospel" (no matter how little factual basis they have) on a subject as important and wide- sweeping as human sexuality. Unfortunately, the scientific world and the western world at large has all too eagerly embraced Kinsey's work. No matter what Kinsey's own sexual orientation, scientists and laypersons alike must acknowledge that he engineered a study of child sexuality which was unthinkable. The Kinsey Institute's data on child orgasms are, at best, a human concoction or, at worst, the results of child molestation. In either case, the Kinsey Institute is guilty of criminal activity and their findings on all subjects are suspect and misleading. Too, science must be re-evaluated, for Kinsey's work has hijacked an entire body of science for almost half a century, leaving behind untold damage to families, relationships and human souls. The control of sexuality information has for too long been in the hands of the Kinsey elite-unethical scientists, men without moral conscience or honor, who fathered a bastard sexual revolution. It should come as no surprise then to those on our campuses and in the halls of legislative, judicial and educational power, that as our nation has followed Kinsey and his disciples, we too have become increasingly coarsened to conscience and honor. It is clear that sexual aggression, brutality and hedonism have greater sway in our society post-Kinsey than was the case pre-Kinsey. No matter what Kinsey's own sexual proclivities and biases, after WWII Kinsey began to move in concert with a cadre of revisionist educators, lawyers and other professionals who determined with their sponsors to forever alter the American way of life through its educational system (the future) and the legal system (the standard of judgment). Prior to the Kinsey Reports, American law held that not only were sodomy, adultery, fornication and the like transgressions, those who committed such acts were themselves unacceptable. Post-Kinsey, these once-criminal acts and their actors began moving toward acceptability. The new law system used Kinsey as its primary and only scientific authority, and pointed America in a downward direction, promoting today's entire panoply of sexual deviances more common to the Pre-Christian era. In the upheaval of the post-World War II period, Kinsey, for his part, refashioned the way humankind looked upon sexuality and separated this most powerful of human acts from its labor-intensive procreational function, pronouncing true human sexuality in the new human nature to be free, self-fulfilling and recreational. Kinsey lives and reigns today in classrooms across America. The Ten Commandments may be out of our classrooms, but the Kinseyan-based "One in Ten" project is in, and "prima nocte"-the medieval practice of an overreaching government taking a young person's innocence, modesty and virtue (as depicted in the film Braveheart)-is a pervasive and accepted practice today in the schools of our American village. Kinsey sold his soul to win his place in time, but now is the time to take back America's soul which has been led astray by fraudulent and criminal science. It is soon fifty years since Kinsey foisted his hoax upon a trusting and moral American people. The American standard was right all along. Let's pull the curtain back and call for a proper investigation of Kinsey's fraudulent investigation into human sexuality. Write and call your political representatives now to begin the debunking and defunding of Kinsey and truth will restore social virtue once again to our nation. Author's note: Since the establishment media has largely censored this information, if you have or desire any information on Kinsey, the use of his materials, or his role in your life or the lives of others, kindly call the 800 number listed. Kinsey, Sex and Fraud, The Children of Table 34-a Family Research Council video of the Kinsey fraud (30 min.), and the Reisman & Johnson Report (comparing homosexual and heterosexual personals or "In Search Of" ads) can be obtained via First Principals Press, 1-800-837- 0544. Endnotes [1]The Institute For Media Education, Box 7404, Arlington, Virginia, 22207. [2]Science Magazine editorial, January 9, 1987.
  13. storm1977

    Kinsey

    I don't really want to get in the debate, but there is some truth to the Fact that Kinsey's "test subject" were demographically biased.... His portral of sciety as a whole is therefore skewed. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  14. Bill I thought of an old conversation when I saw this articl on CNN. Here is a bit of it. The whole article link is below. Global warming 'alarmists'? Scientists were not always so convinced. As early as 1979, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences reported with "high confidence" that a 1.5 to 4.5 degree Celsius temperature increase was likely if carbon dioxide levels doubled. It was greeted by a chorus of skepticism. However, the past two decades have also seen the retreat of once noisy critics. BP, a major energy company, says it is now taking "precautionary action" against climate change by cutting greenhouse emissions and investing in mitigation of greenhouse gases. Nonetheless, a minority of scientists reject what they call "alarmist" global warming on scientific grounds. They raise three major objections, which most researchers agree remain troublesome. # Natural climate variability is not well understood and may be greater than once thought. # Computer models are oversimplifications that cannot simulate the complexities of the real climate. # Temperature extrapolations of the past are not precise enough to make dire conclusions about "normal" warming. Richard Lindzen, a respected meteorologist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, says in light of these uncertainties, pronouncements about climate change are both self-serving and unscientific. "Scientists make meaningless or ambiguous statements. Advocates and media translate statements into alarmist declarations. Politicians respond to alarm by feeding scientists more money," said Lindzen at a scientific conference this January. He added that the accepted evidence is "entirely consistent with there being virtually no problem at all." This sentiment is in the extreme minority of the scientific community, said Richard Sommerville, meteorologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, who drew a parallel with proposing that HIV does not cause AIDS. "[Lindzen] is taken seriously because he's capable of excellent science," Sommerville said. "[But] most of the scientific community thinks he's mistaken... People are given a fair hearing and then we move on." http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/08/earth.science/index.html ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  15. People get married and people get divorce, but your parents are always you parents! Again without a living will the parents should trump spouses period. Says who???? You? That is fine then.... WHen you get married, have a will that states your parents can make all the decisions for you incase of an accident. When someone gets married they make a binding contract with the eachother and the state. At that point, your closest relative becomes your spouse. Like it or not that is the LAW. If you don't like it, don't marry :-) It is true of all things... I just got married 2 weeks ago, and had to change my beneficiaries form for my pension, 401K and Life insurance... and do you know what all forms say on them? In the event that no primary beneficiary is selected, your spouse will become your primary beneficiary. (Not your parents or kids). The only way to change that is with a notarized letter of consent from your spouse stating they forfiet the right to your benefits.... otherwise it is assumed by law. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  16. I dunno.... that "FREE" download is a bit rich for my blood Thanks quade.. I'll check it out. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  17. I am new to videoing, and I just picked up a Sony PC-109. It comes with some edit software, but i was wondering if there was anything better out there. I am not looking to spend a lot of money!! If you wouldn't mind could you list programs (pros and Cons) as well as approx price? Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  18. What??????????????????// He said,"I am done with this thread" 3 times now How can I take him seriously? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  19. Keith, Seriously, I don't believe you You'll be back!! What is the third time :-) Seriously though; Keith, I don't agree with you on many things... Like wise, I don't agree with my U. Dave on many things. But you what he hasn't done.... He has never accused me of being a homophobe because I ask questions and opinions... and because I give opinions too. (Opinions BTW which go directly against his beliefs) Dave caused my family a lot unwanted attention... He is quite outspoken, probably the biggest activist in New England. Don't think for a second I agree with what he says or even does for that matter. But his beliefs and mine are not the point. The point is, the man is very educated on the subject, and he believes in what he says... We have voiced differences many times to eachother, and educated echother by doing so. The whole debate is not about whether or not I like the gay lifestyle or not... In fact, I don't think I brought my views up at all reguarding homosexuals.... The main topic has been the spread of disease. As far as my relationship with U. Dave... it has been rocky at times within the family, but mainly because he is so outspoken.... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  20. I must say, when I was younger I didn't talk with him much, because I was too young tounderstand his activism. As I got older I spend a great deal of time discussing his beliefs and activism. I got first hand knowledge of what was/is going on behind the gay lobby and gay activism. It is part of my family... Maybe more than even Keith's... But I don't know that because I don't know Keith. Just as he doesn't know me. But to discard my opinion because I am not gay.... That is just silly. I don't have to be gay to have an understanding of the situation. I don't have to be a jew to understand the significance of the holocaust. I don't have to live in NY to understand the impact of 9/11. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  21. My dad was a tool and die maker. I'm not inserting myself into any discussions about proper manual operation of mills and lathes. Nor should any of your relatives claim good knowledge of meterology... Why not..if they educate you on the subject!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  22. Most of what you say is true.... But the more things change the more they stay the same. There was a LOT of awarness and talk of prevention in the late 80's early 90's, but once the next gen of drugs came out, the risk and scare of AIDs was sort of pushed aside. It seems like we are falling back into the era of the early 80's again. I never argued with Keith reguarding what is being done, but I did say MORE needs to be done. What bothers me about what he said was that he knows NOTHING about me or my background and makes blanket statements about my lack of knowledge on the subject. I don't NEED to give Keith my credentials... But for shits and giggles, he can google my uncle's name to see what he finds... David LaFontaine origionally of Canton, MA. Go ahead Keith.... google his name and gay and see what you come up with buddy. Do your own research and see who he is... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  23. BILL VON.... A simple google brings this up from CNN. Funny how you love to distort things isn't. Right... But FOXNews is evil.... Why cuz you can't handle the truth? God bill... talk about making shit up.... WERE YOU THERE? So you don't know anymore than I do right? OK... nuff said. Go back to your bubble now. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/11/06/lynch.book.ap/ PALESTINE, West Virginia (AP) -- The authorized biography of former prisoner of war Pfc. Jessica Lynch says she was raped by her Iraqi captors, a family spokesman said Thursday. "The book does cover the subject," spokesman Stephen Goodwin told The Associated Press. "It's a very difficult subject." The book -- "I am a Soldier, Too: The Jessica Lynch Story" -- is being released by Knopf publishing on Tuesday, Veterans Day. Reporter Rick Bragg, who wrote the book, tells Lynch's story. Medical records cited in the book indicate that she was raped, the Daily News of New York reported in its Thursday editions. Officials have said Lynch has no memory of her ordeal. "Jessi lost three hours. She lost them in the snapping bones, in the crash of the Humvee, in the torment her enemies inflicted on her after she was pulled from it," writes Bragg, according to the Daily News, which obtained a copy of the book. "The records do not tell whether her captors assaulted her almost lifeless, broken body after she was lifted from the wreckage, or if they assaulted her and then broke her bones into splinters until she was almost dead," Bragg continues. On ABC's "Good Morning America" host Diane Sawyer also gave details of the contents. "The book does indeed cite some intelligence reports that she was treated brutally and a medical record which says, in the book, that she was a victim of a sodomizing rape," Sawyer said. In confirming the reports, family spokesman Goodwin told the AP: "It's important to tell the story and let it be known, but she's not going to talk about it any more." Another family representative said it was unfortunate attention was being focused on one incident. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  24. Here is one from today: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/03/03/canada.shooting.reut/index.html CALGARY, Alberta (Reuters) -- Four Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers were shot and killed during a raid on a marijuana-growing operation in rural Alberta Thursday, in one of the bloodiest days in the history of the national police force, a senior official said. A suspect in the shootout that erupted inside a large farm building that police were investigating also died when he turned his rifle on himself, said Bill Sweeney, commanding officer of the RCMP in Alberta. "The loss of four officers is unprecedented in recent history in Canada. I'm told you have to go back to about 1885 in the RCMP history during the Northwest Rebellion to have a loss of this magnitude," Sweeney told reporters in the town of Mayerthorpe, about 140 km (90 miles) northwest of Edmonton. "It's devastating." The Mounties' names were not released. They were described as junior members of the force that has long been one of Canada's most famous national symbols. In the late morning, the officers, armed with handguns, entered a large metal hut as part of a stakeout that began the night before when they came under fire from what police said was a man armed with a rifle. In response, the force called in its SWAT team and major crime units and closed the airspace over the area. It requested the Edmonton city police department helicopter as well as armored personnel vehicles from Edmonton's armed forces base. In mid-afternoon, police surrounding and stormed the building only to find the bodies of the officers and the suspect, Cpl. Wayne Oakes said. The suspect may have entered to find the officers inside, then opened fire, Oakes said. Police have been cracking down on illicit marijuana "grow-ops" that have sprung up across Alberta. Many of the operations targeted by the so-called police "Green Teams" are said to be connected with organized crime. "The issue of grow-ops is not a ma-and-pa industry as we've been seeing for a number of years. These are major serious threats to our society and they are major serious threats to the men and women on the front line who have to deal with them," RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli said in Ottawa. The federal government has angered police organizations and U.S. officials by planning to introduce legislation that would decriminalize marijuana possession. It has been 120 years, during the long rebellion by Metis and Indians in western Canada, since so many national police officers have been shot and killed. In 1963, four were killed in a plane crash in Yukon. In 1958, five died when their boat sank in Ontario. In a statement, Prime Minister Paul Martin said: "Canadians are shocked by this brutality, and join me in condemning the violent acts that brought about these deaths." ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty
  25. One thing that could be done is to simply not tax essentials like food and clothes. MA does this with its sales tax. Some food and some clothes are taxed, if they are deemed luxury and not necessity. Example: A fur coat would be taxed.... Actually in places like CT, there is no tax on clothes as long as the individual item is not greater than $50. A $49 dollar shirt isn't taxed but a $55 is.... You could buy $3000 worth of clothes and not be taxed, or $200 in clothes and be taxed... It is all dependant on the individual items. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty