Spizzzarko 0 #2 September 7, 2007 Very carefully... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #3 September 7, 2007 Tube stows, doubled up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #4 September 7, 2007 Quote Very carefully... yes, very carefully........ short stows.. very short.. and tight... two stows usually. yes, even the locking stows at the bag. has worked for me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fff3 0 #5 September 7, 2007 Then what for the closers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ORANGENBLUE 0 #6 September 7, 2007 Two locking stows and the rest in the free stow pocket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #7 September 7, 2007 I was kidding. No tube stows... But seriously...I used to use all large rubber bands, doubled up, except for the grommet stows. Now I use large for the grommet stows (not doubled) and small for everything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #8 September 7, 2007 Large bands doubled up for the locking stows and small bands single stowed for the rest. (My version of the free stow bag) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffprovenzano 0 #9 September 7, 2007 stowless bags from infinity... they work great!!! 2 locking stows with big rubber bands and the rest i stuff in the pocket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #10 September 7, 2007 whatever the fuck the packers have. I started out with "you can't break them" superbands, but those are 500 jumps down the road. I have never noticed an opening difference in the past seven years since I have been jumping sub-100 mains no matter what shit I have on my D bag. Odd, but totally true. The only thing that has mattered is whether or not I could stow them "just right". Not too loose and not too tight. All four of my rigs currently have a mix of rubber bands, tube stoes, and super bands. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickyGood 0 #11 September 7, 2007 Yeah Chuck I found the same thing. People say you shouldn't mix and match rubber bands with tube stows etc. I ran out of tube stows at work a couple of times and ended up with rubberbands tubies and sili-bands all on the same bag with a JVX 80 and it always opened great. As long as the lines are all stowed at an even length with even tension I don't think it matters. Ricky :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #12 September 7, 2007 I am glad someone seconded my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fff3 0 #13 September 7, 2007 Thanks Kim, and everyone else. I was using tube stows and big bands (single stowed) for the closers with my vectrans for about 1200 jumps with good results. I then switched to HMA lines (30 jumps) and was using large bands double stowed all around with progressively worse results and my first function in 2000 jumps. Thanks again, J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ORANGENBLUE 0 #14 September 7, 2007 Oh ya! With the Infinity freestow bag I went like six months before I borke a rubber band. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #15 September 7, 2007 i double stow a small rubber band on the first locking stow, then put the second stow in the pocket, then a single stow w/ large rubber band on the other locking grommet, then it's a mixture of large, small, and broken rubber bands, tube stows, and free stows in the pocket, until i get to the slinks where i triple stow a small rubber band so i have no excess line anywhere. put it in the container and you're good to go. grant adams showed me that technique after he showed me how to get out of an otter with the door not all the way up.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swilson 0 #17 September 7, 2007 I am using regular rubber bands for the locking stows, and have been using small rubber bands cut in half lengthwise, similar to what you would use on a tailgate on a BASE canopy, for the rest. The HMA lines are so soft and limp that the little rubber bands last for a long time - I just replaced my first one after some 250 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #18 September 7, 2007 Stu does have some interesting packing techniques. I packed for him once and he complained that the opening was just to good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #19 September 8, 2007 Large on the locking stows. Small everywhere else. I don't like double-stowing. Partially 'cause it's a fucking pain in the arse. Actually, mainly because it's a fucking pain and I hate rubber bands with a passion. So, if I need to shorten the band, I do the double-stow on the d-bag. Advantages: you only ever need to do the double-stow once, and there's less chance of doing something stupid with the lines as you stow 'em. Even better, a lazy packer can't cause problems by single-stowing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dima39 1 #20 September 13, 2007 Small rubber bands for HMA on Katana. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #21 September 14, 2007 The most important thing I can suggest with the 300lb HMA is get your slider immediately! Collapse it, remove it, whatever. Just dont let it flap around for a long time. You will get a lot more jumps out of a lineset if you do this. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #22 September 14, 2007 Agreed. I've noticed a significant amount of darkening around the slink area after a jump where the RDS was misrigged and the slider stayed connected for far longer than usual. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #23 September 16, 2007 QuoteThe most important thing I can suggest with the 300lb HMA is get your slider immediately! Collapse it, remove it, whatever. Just dont let it flap around for a long time. You will get a lot more jumps out of a lineset if you do this. Agreed! That's where most of your wear is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites