Widgeon 0 #1 November 10, 2005 Where do you think the performance starts to fall off on a non-crossbraced design? I'm talking about a noticeable drop in distance and shutdown power, but want to retain the most potential for speed and power. Those of you that jump crossfire/katana, what WL/size combination do you like and why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 November 10, 2005 Totalyu dependant on the design of the canopy. I think in general there are very few Non Crosbraced canopies that fly well over 1.8 The Blade is one exception.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #3 November 10, 2005 I flew a xfire2 119 loaded at 2.0 and at first I thought it was a bit too small but after a few jumps found it to be a lot if fun. Was still able to get it to shut down nicely and found no real performance drop off. Jumped a 109 loaded over 2.1:1 and knew right away it was too small. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #4 November 10, 2005 QuoteThe Blade is one exception. i flew a blade 58 loaded at 3.2 but i cant compare it to any other blade. i can say this though, it is a rock solid canopy, and i had no fear whatsoever flying and landing that canopy. even though it isnt crossbraced. i think because it has a lower aspect ratio. but not sure, ask beezy. but i pulled the strings and it was solid to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 November 10, 2005 QuoteI think in general there are very few Non Crosbraced canopies that fly well over 1.8 I've been very impressed with the Xfire2 at 1.9-2.0, however at 2.1 and above I felt like it wasn't flying well (personally opinion). I also didn't feel like at 1.7-1.8 it was flying quite fast enough, if you know what I mean. With that said, Sabre2, Sabre, Spectre, Stiletto and the Nitro don't seem to fly at 1.9 very well at all. Infact, I seem to remember relating that wingloading on those canopies to be compared to a "brick" even though at 1.6-1.7 I thought they flew really well. Eitherway, no one take my word for it, if you have the experience to fly these sorts of wingloadings, then by all means, demo everything you can get your hands on and decide for yourself.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adi 0 #6 November 10, 2005 I loved the Katana (120/107) between 1.8-2.0 Above that it felt like I was losing performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #7 November 10, 2005 I jump a Stilleto at 1.8 - and anything more than that is too small. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roq 0 #8 November 10, 2005 I jump a Demon 70 to 2.4. I think this is a better wing load for swoop with this canopy. roq Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #9 November 10, 2005 I have to agree with Roq. The Demon is flying very good with a wingload as from 2.0. Below that it feels a little bit soft. Landings are great! By the way, thank you Roq for the advice on the Demon in the past! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Widgeon 0 #10 November 10, 2005 I've seen some posts here and on canopypiloting.com that certain sizes of canopies seem to "have it" and others don't, regardless of minor to moderate overloading. The katana being one for sure as I've seen alot of praise for the 107/97 and the people I see posting about their experiences on these canopies would have been taking them to 2.1+ at least. What would you expect to gain overlaoding a canopy a little? I know you'll sacrifice some distance and some bottom end flare, but what do you think is on the other side of the coin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #11 November 10, 2005 Quote know you'll sacrifice some distance and some bottom end flare, but what do you think is on the other side of the coin? Speed. Blow-your-hair-back-pants-on-fire-adrenaline-pumping-scare-ya-till-ya-pee-a-little-speed.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Widgeon 0 #12 November 10, 2005 That'll work What about controls? Riser pressure etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #13 November 10, 2005 The Samurai seems to perform well above 2.0. Airlocks - the fat mans crossbrace. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gmac324 0 #14 November 11, 2005 I currently jump a sabre2 120 loaded at 1.93 ish. I think it flies very well at that wing loading, I previously had a 135 loaded from about 1.6 to 1.7. It has a nice long dive for swooping, but equally will completely shut down on a nil wind day with a straight in approach. It did take a bit of getting used to the flare though! I have jumped a spectre 120 at 1.9 as well, I would have to say it took a bit of effort to get a nice soft landing out of that, and I'm not sure I have the skill to land it safely on a nil wind day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #15 November 11, 2005 QuoteAirlocks - the fat mans crossbrace. I know a guy with a VX 142. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #16 November 11, 2005 I had Stiletto 135 loaded at 1.6 and it did fly better than Stiletto 150 (I had before) I tried 120 and it flies even better. But it is not only wing loading. Original designed size is important too. As far as I know Stiletto was designed as 120 and then up-scaled. Unfortunately in aerodynamics scaling doesn’t perfectly works. Usually original design is the best. It so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Man this is the best! I just love it. I feel like I’ll fly it forever! (Unless it so happens and I’ll go to x-braced )Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #17 November 11, 2005 It so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #18 November 11, 2005 QuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #19 November 11, 2005 I'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt (and I am no canopy nazi). Dude your paraglider experience is good for general experience in being up there in the skies. But no way should your paraglider experience be confused with swooping. Have you taken any advanced canopy control coaching or are you just living on your paragliding past? What kind of turns are you doing and more importantly, "what is your setup"? Swooping is tons of fun, but it is very unforgiving of the errors that we make (and we are all capable of making mistakes up there). Be smart and dial it back. You're on a road to disaster thinking that you're ready for a cross-braced canopy with only 40 swoops under you belt and 200 some odd total jumps (also knowing that unless you do a road trip, you're done jumping this winter and how's that for currency). Ah fuck it, I've got a Velocity 111 and maybe even a Velocity 103 for sale if you're interested. You should be fine under either one of these as long as you promise NOT to play with them up high when you first get it, be sure to pull low and really show us how good your paragliding skills are by going big swooping the beer line with that new cross-braced canopy. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #20 November 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #21 November 11, 2005 Quote you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? No but I saw it done Out of the paper bag instead of D-bag.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #22 November 11, 2005 QuoteI'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt Sorry for misunderstanding... I was talking about jumping X-Fire forever and going to X-braced after “Forever” For the wormup after the long winter i still have my Stiletto 135 and my girlfriend's canopy.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mfnren 0 #23 November 13, 2005 Have you ever seen high performance paraglider landings? The s@#t they do is nuts, think full 360 wing over with the wing tip touching the ground to stundup landing. I'll try and find some vid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #24 November 14, 2005 QuoteI'll try and find some vid... http://airvisionadventures.com/media/Italy.wmv ... and I was flying this thing? Holly crap this is scary. check also topic "loops" Here is instruction wideo How To: http://krisz.3gteam.hu/video/WingOverInstruction-lq.wmv Do not try it at home http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/1997_FR_Grant_RaftLZ_SebastienBourquin.mpgLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #25 November 14, 2005 Ouch: http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/2000_05_FromTV_ManyAccidents.mpg Skydiving now-days safer than sex… But sex is still safer than paraglidingLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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Widgeon 0 #10 November 10, 2005 I've seen some posts here and on canopypiloting.com that certain sizes of canopies seem to "have it" and others don't, regardless of minor to moderate overloading. The katana being one for sure as I've seen alot of praise for the 107/97 and the people I see posting about their experiences on these canopies would have been taking them to 2.1+ at least. What would you expect to gain overlaoding a canopy a little? I know you'll sacrifice some distance and some bottom end flare, but what do you think is on the other side of the coin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #11 November 10, 2005 Quote know you'll sacrifice some distance and some bottom end flare, but what do you think is on the other side of the coin? Speed. Blow-your-hair-back-pants-on-fire-adrenaline-pumping-scare-ya-till-ya-pee-a-little-speed.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Widgeon 0 #12 November 10, 2005 That'll work What about controls? Riser pressure etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 November 10, 2005 The Samurai seems to perform well above 2.0. Airlocks - the fat mans crossbrace. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmac324 0 #14 November 11, 2005 I currently jump a sabre2 120 loaded at 1.93 ish. I think it flies very well at that wing loading, I previously had a 135 loaded from about 1.6 to 1.7. It has a nice long dive for swooping, but equally will completely shut down on a nil wind day with a straight in approach. It did take a bit of getting used to the flare though! I have jumped a spectre 120 at 1.9 as well, I would have to say it took a bit of effort to get a nice soft landing out of that, and I'm not sure I have the skill to land it safely on a nil wind day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #15 November 11, 2005 QuoteAirlocks - the fat mans crossbrace. I know a guy with a VX 142. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AcePilot 0 #16 November 11, 2005 I had Stiletto 135 loaded at 1.6 and it did fly better than Stiletto 150 (I had before) I tried 120 and it flies even better. But it is not only wing loading. Original designed size is important too. As far as I know Stiletto was designed as 120 and then up-scaled. Unfortunately in aerodynamics scaling doesn’t perfectly works. Usually original design is the best. It so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Man this is the best! I just love it. I feel like I’ll fly it forever! (Unless it so happens and I’ll go to x-braced )Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #17 November 11, 2005 It so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #18 November 11, 2005 QuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #19 November 11, 2005 I'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt (and I am no canopy nazi). Dude your paraglider experience is good for general experience in being up there in the skies. But no way should your paraglider experience be confused with swooping. Have you taken any advanced canopy control coaching or are you just living on your paragliding past? What kind of turns are you doing and more importantly, "what is your setup"? Swooping is tons of fun, but it is very unforgiving of the errors that we make (and we are all capable of making mistakes up there). Be smart and dial it back. You're on a road to disaster thinking that you're ready for a cross-braced canopy with only 40 swoops under you belt and 200 some odd total jumps (also knowing that unless you do a road trip, you're done jumping this winter and how's that for currency). Ah fuck it, I've got a Velocity 111 and maybe even a Velocity 103 for sale if you're interested. You should be fine under either one of these as long as you promise NOT to play with them up high when you first get it, be sure to pull low and really show us how good your paragliding skills are by going big swooping the beer line with that new cross-braced canopy. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #20 November 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #21 November 11, 2005 Quote you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? No but I saw it done Out of the paper bag instead of D-bag.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #22 November 11, 2005 QuoteI'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt Sorry for misunderstanding... I was talking about jumping X-Fire forever and going to X-braced after “Forever” For the wormup after the long winter i still have my Stiletto 135 and my girlfriend's canopy.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mfnren 0 #23 November 13, 2005 Have you ever seen high performance paraglider landings? The s@#t they do is nuts, think full 360 wing over with the wing tip touching the ground to stundup landing. I'll try and find some vid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #24 November 14, 2005 QuoteI'll try and find some vid... http://airvisionadventures.com/media/Italy.wmv ... and I was flying this thing? Holly crap this is scary. check also topic "loops" Here is instruction wideo How To: http://krisz.3gteam.hu/video/WingOverInstruction-lq.wmv Do not try it at home http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/1997_FR_Grant_RaftLZ_SebastienBourquin.mpgLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #25 November 14, 2005 Ouch: http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/2000_05_FromTV_ManyAccidents.mpg Skydiving now-days safer than sex… But sex is still safer than paraglidingLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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AcePilot 0 #18 November 11, 2005 QuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #19 November 11, 2005 I'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt (and I am no canopy nazi). Dude your paraglider experience is good for general experience in being up there in the skies. But no way should your paraglider experience be confused with swooping. Have you taken any advanced canopy control coaching or are you just living on your paragliding past? What kind of turns are you doing and more importantly, "what is your setup"? Swooping is tons of fun, but it is very unforgiving of the errors that we make (and we are all capable of making mistakes up there). Be smart and dial it back. You're on a road to disaster thinking that you're ready for a cross-braced canopy with only 40 swoops under you belt and 200 some odd total jumps (also knowing that unless you do a road trip, you're done jumping this winter and how's that for currency). Ah fuck it, I've got a Velocity 111 and maybe even a Velocity 103 for sale if you're interested. You should be fine under either one of these as long as you promise NOT to play with them up high when you first get it, be sure to pull low and really show us how good your paragliding skills are by going big swooping the beer line with that new cross-braced canopy. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #20 November 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #21 November 11, 2005 Quote you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? No but I saw it done Out of the paper bag instead of D-bag.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #22 November 11, 2005 QuoteI'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt Sorry for misunderstanding... I was talking about jumping X-Fire forever and going to X-braced after “Forever” For the wormup after the long winter i still have my Stiletto 135 and my girlfriend's canopy.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mfnren 0 #23 November 13, 2005 Have you ever seen high performance paraglider landings? The s@#t they do is nuts, think full 360 wing over with the wing tip touching the ground to stundup landing. I'll try and find some vid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #24 November 14, 2005 QuoteI'll try and find some vid... http://airvisionadventures.com/media/Italy.wmv ... and I was flying this thing? Holly crap this is scary. check also topic "loops" Here is instruction wideo How To: http://krisz.3gteam.hu/video/WingOverInstruction-lq.wmv Do not try it at home http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/1997_FR_Grant_RaftLZ_SebastienBourquin.mpgLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #25 November 14, 2005 Ouch: http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/2000_05_FromTV_ManyAccidents.mpg Skydiving now-days safer than sex… But sex is still safer than paraglidingLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 November 11, 2005 I'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt (and I am no canopy nazi). Dude your paraglider experience is good for general experience in being up there in the skies. But no way should your paraglider experience be confused with swooping. Have you taken any advanced canopy control coaching or are you just living on your paragliding past? What kind of turns are you doing and more importantly, "what is your setup"? Swooping is tons of fun, but it is very unforgiving of the errors that we make (and we are all capable of making mistakes up there). Be smart and dial it back. You're on a road to disaster thinking that you're ready for a cross-braced canopy with only 40 swoops under you belt and 200 some odd total jumps (also knowing that unless you do a road trip, you're done jumping this winter and how's that for currency). Ah fuck it, I've got a Velocity 111 and maybe even a Velocity 103 for sale if you're interested. You should be fine under either one of these as long as you promise NOT to play with them up high when you first get it, be sure to pull low and really show us how good your paragliding skills are by going big swooping the beer line with that new cross-braced canopy. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #20 November 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt so happens that I’ve got X-Fire 119 and it is loaded at 1.8. Quote you're flying a x fire 119 at 230 jumps? Yes but... I have more than 12 years of paragliding and more than 120 hours of airtime on competition class paragliders. (truly elliptical X-braced wing with more than 50 cells) This experience helps a lot. (And I just got the x-fire several jumps ago, Jumped 135-stiletto about 100 jumps before that) My case is a bad example, don’t try it at home you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #21 November 11, 2005 Quote you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? No but I saw it done Out of the paper bag instead of D-bag.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #22 November 11, 2005 QuoteI'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt Sorry for misunderstanding... I was talking about jumping X-Fire forever and going to X-braced after “Forever” For the wormup after the long winter i still have my Stiletto 135 and my girlfriend's canopy.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mfnren 0 #23 November 13, 2005 Have you ever seen high performance paraglider landings? The s@#t they do is nuts, think full 360 wing over with the wing tip touching the ground to stundup landing. I'll try and find some vid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #24 November 14, 2005 QuoteI'll try and find some vid... http://airvisionadventures.com/media/Italy.wmv ... and I was flying this thing? Holly crap this is scary. check also topic "loops" Here is instruction wideo How To: http://krisz.3gteam.hu/video/WingOverInstruction-lq.wmv Do not try it at home http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/1997_FR_Grant_RaftLZ_SebastienBourquin.mpgLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AcePilot 0 #25 November 14, 2005 Ouch: http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/2000_05_FromTV_ManyAccidents.mpg Skydiving now-days safer than sex… But sex is still safer than paraglidingLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
AcePilot 0 #21 November 11, 2005 Quote you ever try to deploy a wing with that high of an aspect ratio? No but I saw it done Out of the paper bag instead of D-bag.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AcePilot 0 #22 November 11, 2005 QuoteI'm more concerned that the guy is talking about going cross-braced with only 40 swoops under his belt Sorry for misunderstanding... I was talking about jumping X-Fire forever and going to X-braced after “Forever” For the wormup after the long winter i still have my Stiletto 135 and my girlfriend's canopy.Live 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfnren 0 #23 November 13, 2005 Have you ever seen high performance paraglider landings? The s@#t they do is nuts, think full 360 wing over with the wing tip touching the ground to stundup landing. I'll try and find some vid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AcePilot 0 #24 November 14, 2005 QuoteI'll try and find some vid... http://airvisionadventures.com/media/Italy.wmv ... and I was flying this thing? Holly crap this is scary. check also topic "loops" Here is instruction wideo How To: http://krisz.3gteam.hu/video/WingOverInstruction-lq.wmv Do not try it at home http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/1997_FR_Grant_RaftLZ_SebastienBourquin.mpgLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AcePilot 0 #25 November 14, 2005 Ouch: http://www.bigairparagliding.com/jdaoust/PG/Video/2000_05_FromTV_ManyAccidents.mpg Skydiving now-days safer than sex… But sex is still safer than paraglidingLive 2 Fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
