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Quote from 377: "We believe with reasonable certainty that Cooper jumped a surplus Navy bailout rig with a stock military round canopy. That's a good rig for the jump. It can take a high speed opening."
The "rig" was by definition an "emergency" rig. It was designed to be used when there are no other options. I believe that the jumper "intended" to obtain two sport rigs that were complete units, i.e. a sport back as a main and a chest mounted reserve. When he surveyed the goods presented and it was past time to go, he knew he didnt get what he wanted, so he had to take second best. The emergency rig with no second chute (chest mounted)would have been my second choice as well. This emergency rig was used by thousands around the world in both military and civilian. I wore it one time just like it in a T-6 doing acro. We didnt use them (the rig) but we wore them because it was required for acro flight.
My conclusions:
1) The hijacking occurred
2) The man made took efforts to hide his identity
3) His real last name was not Cooper.
4) He selected the best rig from the lot available.
5) His level of clothing/gloves/goggles is unknown
6) He jumped with the money.
7) The type of exit (quick pull, delay, face fwd, face aft, tumble, spin) is unknown.
8) He obviously went to a lot of trouble to get to this point in his caper.
9) He exited somewhere in some fashion. He pulled.
10) "Something" came out.
If you have a legitimate disagreement with any of these, I encourage you to openly bring out your disagreement and state why you disagree. I value the opinions of each and every individual and I believe that this is the true "on topic" value of the forum. Thank you. Dan Gryder.
The "rig" was by definition an "emergency" rig. It was designed to be used when there are no other options. I believe that the jumper "intended" to obtain two sport rigs that were complete units, i.e. a sport back as a main and a chest mounted reserve. When he surveyed the goods presented and it was past time to go, he knew he didnt get what he wanted, so he had to take second best. The emergency rig with no second chute (chest mounted)would have been my second choice as well. This emergency rig was used by thousands around the world in both military and civilian. I wore it one time just like it in a T-6 doing acro. We didnt use them (the rig) but we wore them because it was required for acro flight.
My conclusions:
1) The hijacking occurred
2) The man made took efforts to hide his identity
3) His real last name was not Cooper.
4) He selected the best rig from the lot available.
5) His level of clothing/gloves/goggles is unknown
6) He jumped with the money.
7) The type of exit (quick pull, delay, face fwd, face aft, tumble, spin) is unknown.
8) He obviously went to a lot of trouble to get to this point in his caper.
9) He exited somewhere in some fashion. He pulled.
10) "Something" came out.
If you have a legitimate disagreement with any of these, I encourage you to openly bring out your disagreement and state why you disagree. I value the opinions of each and every individual and I believe that this is the true "on topic" value of the forum. Thank you. Dan Gryder.
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Quote9) He exited somewhere in some fashion. He pulled.
10) "Something" came out.
If you have a legitimate disagreement with any of these, I encourage you to openly bring out your disagreement and state why you disagree. I value the opinions of each and every individual and I believe that this is the true "on topic" value of the forum. Thank you. Dan Gryder.
The second part of 9, and 10 are just unknown. You cannot state with any certainty that they either happened or did not happen.
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
9) He exited somewhere in some fashion. He pulled.
10) "Something" came out.
From Orage1: "The second part of 9, and 10 are just unknown. You cannot state with any certainty that they either happened or did not happen."
The 10 listed are "My" conclusions. Each person is entitled to his own conclusions. Jo has concluded that Duwayne did it. She is entitled to that opinion.
I wrote 9) and 10) with the limited amount of information that is present, my experience as an airline pilot and a veteran skydiver, and limited practical experience regarding human behavior I made my best guess.
Please submit 9) and 10) in your own words.
as your "best guess" based on what your opinion is. You are entitled to one.
If you were to write these last two would it look like this?
From Orange1:
9) He exited. He never pulled anything.
10) Nothing ever came out.
10) "Something" came out.
From Orage1: "The second part of 9, and 10 are just unknown. You cannot state with any certainty that they either happened or did not happen."
The 10 listed are "My" conclusions. Each person is entitled to his own conclusions. Jo has concluded that Duwayne did it. She is entitled to that opinion.
I wrote 9) and 10) with the limited amount of information that is present, my experience as an airline pilot and a veteran skydiver, and limited practical experience regarding human behavior I made my best guess.
Please submit 9) and 10) in your own words.
as your "best guess" based on what your opinion is. You are entitled to one.
If you were to write these last two would it look like this?
From Orange1:
9) He exited. He never pulled anything.
10) Nothing ever came out.
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Blevins wrote
They will do neither. That's my prediction. That hedges their bets. It buys them time. If they screwed up, a press release now just calls attention to it. In time, everyone but dropzombies will forget all about Marla and LD.
Sometimes it's hard to separate what the FBI said from what Marla claims they said. The FBI said she was a credible witness and that they did not get a DNA match. Isn't the rest all from Marla?
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QuoteLet's face facts here. It was the Seattle FBI back in August who first put forward Marla as a reliable witness. I think they should either back this up now, or retract their initial assessment.
They will do neither. That's my prediction. That hedges their bets. It buys them time. If they screwed up, a press release now just calls attention to it. In time, everyone but dropzombies will forget all about Marla and LD.
Sometimes it's hard to separate what the FBI said from what Marla claims they said. The FBI said she was a credible witness and that they did not get a DNA match. Isn't the rest all from Marla?
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Let's face facts here. .
Yes!
You sir, you are beating a dead horse.
Accordingly, you have been turned in to the
SPCA.
If Norman's claim is true then his obtaining the chute back means he had to prove ownership. Evidence in the custody of the FBI isn't just given to whoever asks for it.
I can't find any record of a federal court lawsuit over this chute. It was probably not an actual lawsuit but rather an administrative claim.
Still, no big deal. We believe with reasonable certainty that Cooper jumped a surplus Navy bailout rig with a stock military round canopy.
That's a good rig for the jump. It can take a high speed opening.
We know he exited and we have a reasonable estimate of approximately where it occurred.
After that, it's all speculation.
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