DutchSkyCam 0 #1 February 16, 2003 Is someone going to watch this? http://www.kirotv.com/news/1979634/detail.html I cannot receive US television in the Netherlands, but I am curious (and not too happy about it, if it is what it sound like) Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #2 February 16, 2003 If I was in the neighborhood, I'd be tuning in. The site's blurb is: "Tuesday At 5: Chilling Video From Skies Over Washington Tuesday at 5 on KIRO 7 Eyewitness News: It's the deadliest skydiving operation in Washington. KIRO Team 7 Investigators reveal behavior that puts more than parachute school students at risk. Uncovering chilling video that's prompted a federal probe. Tuesday at 5 on KIRO 7 Eyewitness News. Complete Northwest News Coverage." howedver, remember it's "sweeps" week, where you get the most sensationalistic stuff out there, blurb it as heavily as you can, and hope to draw the ratings. Ratings are important because it tends to set the amount of $$ you can charge for advertising, etc. So this may not actually be what it sounds like. OTOH, it may be, too. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #3 February 16, 2003 Well, I am definitely going to watch it, since it is on my local channel! It really doesn't say much on their site does it? J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #4 February 16, 2003 QuoteIs someone going to watch this? This sort of yellow journalism is why I don't approve of these "ratings whores" soliciting skydivers for video of skydiving mishaps. Those who gleefully respond are only causing harm to this great outdoor sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #5 February 16, 2003 QuoteThis sort of yellow journalism is why I don't approve of these "ratings whores" soliciting skydivers for video of skydiving mishaps. Those who gleefully respond are only causing harm to this great outdoor sport. Or somebody could be running a genuinely dangerous dropzone. It's happened before, and some say that it's happening now in a certain mountainous state. The experienced jumpers might know enough to stay away, but that won't stop the students from rolling in. Being on the news might be what it takes to get one of these places shut down. I'll wait to see the video before passing judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #6 February 16, 2003 QuoteBeing on the news might be what it takes to get one of these places shut down. Or get more federal regulation.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #7 February 16, 2003 QuoteOr somebody could be running a genuinely dangerous dropzone. I saw one of these news shows that accused the railroad of operating a dangerous system because a teenager was killed by a "speeding locomotive!" Well, the train was going 27-mph, and somehow the teenager wasn't smart enough to avoid it. [Darwinism?]. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #8 February 16, 2003 Yellow journalism will not shut down dangerous dropzones. Back in the mid-1990s the CBC ran an expose' on "Drop zone of Death!" The DZ is still operating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #9 February 16, 2003 I guess I'm just naive for giving the benefit of the doubt, then. Or maybe I'm just tired of the "skydivers can do no wrong" attitude that seems to pervade this sport. Edit to add: That sounds like a troll. Sorry about that. I'm just frustrated that every time there is some conflict between skydivers and the world outside of the sport, it seems like knee-jerk reaction is to assume that the skydivers are right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #10 February 17, 2003 QuoteI'm just frustrated that every time there is some conflict between skydivers and the world outside of the sport, it seems like knee-jerk reaction is to assume that the skydivers are right. You haven't been around long enough, Idyz. There are folks out there that actually believe we breathe through the pores in our skin during freefall...really! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listo 0 #11 February 17, 2003 I believe that shutting down any DZ is the wrong answer. I say we address the situation and correct it. If the problem persists, then put the DZ out of business and put the person responsible for the dangerous activity in jail for gross negligance to human life. As for publicity....lets keep our family problems to ourselves and remedy the problem from within. We already have a bad enough reputation just because we jump out of airplanes. We don't need to make it worse by publisizing someone's stupidity!Live today as tomorrow may not come Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyMissy 0 #12 February 17, 2003 QuoteI'm just frustrated that every time there is some conflict between skydivers and the world outside of the sport, it seems like knee-jerk reaction is to assume that the skydivers are right. Um, If my car was missing, and I found a skydiver driving it...and he said a purple monkey sold it to him...I'd buy him a beer and start looking for a purple monkey to beat the shit out of. Why? I have never been around a group of people whom I trust more. To quote "Full Metal Jacket" (loosely)..."Why don't you come on in and join the team for the big win?"________________________________________________ Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listo 0 #13 February 17, 2003 I want to see that damn purple monkey too. That SOB stole my firewire Live today as tomorrow may not come Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumppilot01 0 #14 February 18, 2003 I'm sitting at my computer, drinking a beer, and I see that stupid KIRO 7 add on the TV. The add mentioned "dangerour skydiving" as a guy was coming in doing a swoop. Come on! Maybe I'll change my home DZ after I see this add, or, better yet, just get out of skydiving. Odds are the people involved with the production have zero jumps, and from those people you always have to turn a critical eye to, no matter how much research they have done. Uninformed people suck. Perhaps it will be an informative piece and I will watch it with an open mind. -Jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #15 February 18, 2003 I'm hoping they do a decent report, but I doubt it. I will be watching. I know that this dz has had problems with various 'neighbors'. So I'll wait to see the report before getting upset over this. J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #16 February 18, 2003 This is where the USPA should step in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #17 February 18, 2003 This is why you keep the DZ "malfunctions" video under lock and key."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #18 February 18, 2003 Can the USPA do anything under these circumstances? Probably not. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ERICCONNELLY 0 #19 February 18, 2003 There is a DZ in the Seattle area that is having problems with their neighbors. There is a lot of bad blood here and from what I know there is a group actively trying to shut down the DZ. I wonder if this is their idea.... I will have to watch. Too bad the whole story will not be told. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #20 February 18, 2003 I think that same monkey got my altimeter. You would think a purple monkey would be easy to find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #21 February 19, 2003 Well, who watched it and how was it?JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #22 February 19, 2003 There's a description over on Talkback; look for the thread about the prick. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #23 February 19, 2003 QuoteCan the USPA do anything under these circumstances? Probably not. If they are trying to shut it down for "safety" reason, then it can. If the feds are involved, the USPA would probably get involved. USPA keeps skydivers skydiving. Read section 1 of your SIM. If you have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #24 February 19, 2003 Quote I guess I'm just naive for giving the benefit of the doubt, then. Or maybe I'm just tired of the "skydivers can do no wrong" attitude that seems to pervade this sport. Edit to add: That sounds like a troll. Sorry about that. I'm just frustrated that every time there is some conflict between skydivers and the world outside of the sport, it seems like knee-jerk reaction is to assume that the skydivers are right. Us Skydivers wrong????? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
