waterboy3412 0 #1 June 4, 2009 Hey, I recently got my A license but I wanted to set a goal for next season and I was wondering what the requirements are for getting your B license and are there any benefits of having it? Thanks.Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #2 June 4, 2009 B License 2. Persons holding a USPA B license are able to exercise all privileges of an A-license holder, perform night jumps, with 100 jumps are eligible for the USPA Coach Rating, and must have- a. obtained a USPA A license b. completed 50 jumps including: (1) accumulated at least 30 minutes of controlled freefall time (2) landed within ten meters of target center on ten jumps c. aerial performance requirements, either: (1) demonstrated the ability to perform individual maneuvers (left 360, right 360, backloop, left 360, right 360, backloop) in freefall in 18 seconds or less (2) or successful completion of the planned formation(s) on ten group freefall jumps d. documentation of live water landing training with full equipment in accordance with the procedures in the Skydiver's Information Manual e. passed a written exam conducted by a current USPA I, I/E, S&TA, or USPA Board member. Download a copy of the SIM here at www.uspa.orgWhat you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hchunter614 0 #3 June 5, 2009 As for benefits, the main one is that your currency time goes up to 1 jump every 90 days. Some dropzones that are near large bodies of water also require a B license. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #4 June 5, 2009 Quote are there any benefits of having it? Thanks. being able to do balloon, helicpoter, and night jumps. are great benefits IMO.diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #5 June 5, 2009 QuoteQuote are there any benefits of having it? Thanks. being able to do balloon, helicpoter, and night jumps. are great benefits IMO. The first two don't always require a B. It kind of depends. The do however always require at least 100 jumps afaik.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sletzer 3 #6 June 5, 2009 100 jumps for balloon and heli? Never heard that one before. It's really up to the operator's discretion. B license is a common requirement in my neck of the woods, though.I will be kissing hands and shaking babies all afternoon. Thanks for all your support! *bows* SCS #8251 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lenzo 0 #7 June 5, 2009 I just got the b license last week.The requirements are just what heatmiser said Smile,pull,land Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #8 June 5, 2009 Quote100 jumps for balloon and heli? Never heard that one before. It's really up to the operator's discretion. B license is a common requirement in my neck of the woods, though. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's a USPA "requirement" to have a B license for those two. I could be wrong. I'm not 100% sure what the SIM says.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #9 June 6, 2009 QuoteThe first two don't always require a B. Night jumps don't require a B either. They just require that you be qualified for a B. I've known a lot of people who filled out the card without sending in the $25 for the number.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #10 June 7, 2009 I was under the impression that Skydive Chicago required students to have a SIM at FJC or, at least provided one as part of the training package. I'm evidently wrong on that. If you don't have one, I strongly recommend that you get one. It's our "bible".My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucet7 0 #11 June 7, 2009 Why a "B?" Because "B" follows "A," and "C" follows "B." "D" follows "C." Coach rating falls between "B" and "C." Then comes the instructors ratings, the Pro rating. Each build upon the previous one and requires completion of each step before proceeding to the next. That is the progression skydiving has set up. It is in the SIMs which is a fairly useful document. You could use a different progression, not involving licenses and rating, belly, free, wingsuit, 4-ways, 8-ways, 16-ways, big-ways. Have goals for each season is great. It really doesn't matter which way you go, just go.POPS #10623; SOS #1672 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #12 June 7, 2009 QuoteI was under the impression that Skydive Chicago required students to have a SIM at FJC or, at least provided one as part of the training package. I'm evidently wrong on that. SDC certainly required it when I did my training. Could it be that, just like with college freshmen these days, it's easier to ask a question on the internet than look up the answer in the book?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #13 June 7, 2009 QuoteQuoteI was under the impression that Skydive Chicago required students to have a SIM at FJC or, at least provided one as part of the training package. I'm evidently wrong on that. SDC certainly required it when I did my training. Could it be that, just like with college freshmen these days, it's easier to ask a question on the internet than look up the answer in the book? Well people don't realize that it's on the Internet and can be viewed for free. Personally, I'm not paying $25 or whatever for the book when I can get a PDF. Could just link people with those questions to the SIM. You kind of have to read the SIM to pass the tests anyway. They shouldn't only be reading the SIM when an instructor tells them to.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy0689 0 #14 July 13, 2009 Quote (2) or successful completion of the planned formation(s) on ten group freefall jumps Is there a minimum for the size of the "group?" I heard someone say it had to be 4-ways or larger.Andy I'll believe it when I see it on YouTube! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #15 July 13, 2009 QuoteIs there a minimum for the size of the "group?" I heard someone say it had to be 4-ways or larger. Nope. From the SIM: Group skydiving, traditionally called “relative work,” may be described as the intentional maneuvering of two or more skydivers in proximity to one another in freefall.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 2 #16 July 13, 2009 Quote 100 jumps for balloon and heli? Never heard that one before. It's really up to the operator's discretion. B license is a common requirement in my neck of the woods, though. I just did a helicopter jump this past weekend, with 44 jumps under my belt. Noone mentioned anything about a B license... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #17 July 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteIs there a minimum for the size of the "group?" I heard someone say it had to be 4-ways or larger. Nope. From the SIM: Group skydiving, traditionally called “relative work,” may be described as the intentional maneuvering of two or more skydivers in proximity to one another in freefall. So, pretty much every jump that you plan and execute with another person? Like coach jumps, jumps where you just have someone filming you? Where is the line drawn?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy0689 0 #18 July 13, 2009 I agree. My a-license check dive was with another person and we followed the dive flow as planned so does that count? If the SIM is subjective then I guess it's up to me and my instructor to determine how a "group" is defined. Especially since he'll be the one signing the form. I originally asked because I've had some 2-way RW skills jumps with other friends go well. All we did on the jumps was simple stuff with limited objectives such as nailing the exit, adjusting and maintaining fall rates with a couple of sidebodies thrown in. Would anyone say that that those count? Andy I'll believe it when I see it on YouTube! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #19 July 13, 2009 Oh, and dont forget about all those AFF dives... Thats 7 jumps right there."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #20 July 13, 2009 Quote...Could it be that, just like with college freshmen these days, it's easier to ask a question on the internet than look up the answer in the book? Unfortunately, you are right. It's part of the Dumbing Down of America Program (DDAP) sponsored by the government. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's amazing to me how many people... a) Never heard of the SIM b) Don't have a SIM c) Don't read the SIM d) Couldn't care less about the SIM e) Are too cheap to buy oneMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NiteQwill 0 #21 July 14, 2009 QuoteQuote...Could it be that, just like with college freshmen these days, it's easier to ask a question on the internet than look up the answer in the book? Unfortunately, you are right. It's part of the Dumbing Down of America Program (DDAP) sponsored by the government. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's amazing to me how many people... a) Never heard of the SIM b) Don't have a SIM c) Don't read the SIM d) Couldn't care less about the SIM e) Are too cheap to buy one Last one is one that pisses me off. It is FREE online!"Fail, fail again. Fail better." -Samuel Beckett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #22 July 14, 2009 Well, yes, the on-line PDF is free. It's advantage is the search function. The hardcopy costs $26 or so. It's advantages are: - You can take it anywhere and read it without having to drag a computer around with you. - It's easier to read - Page flipping is easy - No need to scroll up and down from column to column. - All the inserts and everything is in the hardcopy. I put a copy in my bathroom when I started. Kinda of a "captive audience" you might say.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #23 July 14, 2009 Quote Well people don't realize that it's on the Internet and can be viewed for free. Personally, I'm not paying $25 or whatever for the book when I can get a PDF. I agree - I downloaded the SIM the day I decided I was going to jump for the first time. What I do not understand (and some of the I's can back me up on this) is why the SIM is free but if you decide you're going to be a coach you MUST buy a copy of the IRM for $34 plus shipping (Instructor's Rating Manual) - there is no IRM for download. There's probably a good reason for that though, right? T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #24 July 14, 2009 My thought is: USPA has an obligation to promote safety and putting the SIM online for free is one way to do that. USPA has no obligation to enhance your personal ratings. Kinda like college...you get the orientation booklet free. You pay for your text books.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucet7 0 #25 July 14, 2009 If you have a smart phone, the pdf will fit. I have mine with me all the time. On Saturday, it had been a month or so since I did much jumping, so I pulled out my phone and read the emergency procedures. Not all phones can handle PDFs, but a lot do.POPS #10623; SOS #1672 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites