Prior23 0 #1 March 19, 2010 I know this is a pretty old topic but I had watched the video again after learning a bit more about jumping as I progress through my AFF, and I really got ticked off for a moment after realizing he blamed the whole thing on his JM's and gave skydiving a bad rap so I decided to email him. This is what I said and his response... QuoteWhy in the world did you pull your cutaway handle instead of your pilot chute while skydiving and then steer your reserve into power lines instead away, when you had plenty of time to do so. Do you not pay attention. Stop blaming other people for your ignorant mistakes and giving skydiving such a bad name, it's no ones fault but your own. This is what he had to say in response, the same day. QuoteFuck you ignorant jerk I didn't reply back because I'm sure he gets enough shit already, I just had to see what this putz lutz would say. Just thought this was amusing so I figured I'd share it! B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyR1990 0 #2 March 19, 2010 do you have a link to this video? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtnesbitt 0 #3 March 19, 2010 "If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #4 March 19, 2010 Quotedo you have a link to this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbNXNti6NGUBirdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 1 #5 March 19, 2010 Skydiving is not for everyone. Lutz is everyone."Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #6 March 19, 2010 Interesting that you managed to get his e-mail address, but whatever. Yes, he was wrong (back then), but that occurred in 2006. Why should he still be harassed, 4 years after the incident, by every random dickhead who feels like getting in his face? Assuming this exchange actually occurred, you had the response coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cutaway68 4 #7 March 19, 2010 +1 Although I still get pissed at the video and announcer every time I see it in re-runs and "extreme" video shows. Don't Pull Low... Unless You ARE!!! The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse than this." The optimist says, "Sure, it can." Be fun, have safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 March 20, 2010 Errrr.....Lutz jumped in 1996.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #9 March 20, 2010 IMO he is like the jerks who jam on the gas instead of the brakes !!! ( the vast majority of the incidents, IMO ). Future cars will all have black boxes to protect the manufacturers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 March 20, 2010 QuoteFuture cars will all have black boxes to protect the manufacturers. They do and have for quite some time. Pulling the chip in a car after an accident that activates the airbags is a quick way to find out how fast the car was going, were the seatbelts on, if the brakes had been pressed and many other things. Its been like this since the 90s.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #11 March 20, 2010 QuoteErrrr.....Lutz jumped in 1996. Oopsie - brain fart. Eh, 3 lousy digits... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #12 March 20, 2010 Hear that? 14 years. QuoteFuck you ignorant jerk Yeah, I think that's understandable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #13 March 20, 2010 QuoteHear that? 14 years. QuoteFuck you ignorant jerk Yeah, I think that's understandable You should email Lutz and offer up a olive branch...maybe offer to take him skydiving... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost_n_confuzd 0 #14 March 20, 2010 How did you get his email address? Don't post it here, I'm just curious as to how you found it. Lutz is a douche ("they don't train me for losing my chute") but I have not been able to find anything online mentioning him trying to sue the DZ, etc... Did he try to sue the DZ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,345 #15 March 20, 2010 QuoteInteresting that you managed to get his e-mail address, but whatever. Yes, he was wrong (back then), but that occurred in 2006. Why should he still be harassed, 4 years after the incident, by every random dickhead who feels like getting in his face? Assuming this exchange actually occurred, you had the response coming. Well, he keeps shoving this incident back into the public. Every time a new "video clip" show comes out, he's right there, showing his video and giving commentary. And continuing to deny any resposnibility for it. RealTV, Max X, and most recently, Discovery Channel's "World's Worst Vacation Videos" (Or something like that) If he wants it to go away, maybe he should quit making money off of it."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #16 March 20, 2010 That was probably the most un-ethical thing you could do. Now he is going to bring up hate mail in his commentary Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #17 March 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteInteresting that you managed to get his e-mail address, but whatever. Yes, he was wrong (back then), but that occurred in 2006. Why should he still be harassed, 4 years after the incident, by every random dickhead who feels like getting in his face? Assuming this exchange actually occurred, you had the response coming. Well, he keeps shoving this incident back into the public. Every time a new "video clip" show comes out, he's right there, showing his video and giving commentary. And continuing to deny any responsibility for it. RealTV, Max X, and most recently, Discovery Channel's "World's Worst Vacation Videos" (Or something like that) If he wants it to go away, maybe he should quit making money off of it. In fairness, I might be willing to adjust my feelings about the OP if Lutz was still making a dishonest issue out of it in recent times. Can you show us how recently he's done that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbag 0 #18 March 20, 2010 i kind of find it funny, a new skydiver sends scott lutz and email about how dumb he was 14yrs ago. LOL!!!! awesome :). i say we publicize the email and have everyone on DZ.com sned hima love letter wishing him well :).IHYD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,345 #19 March 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting that you managed to get his e-mail address, but whatever. Yes, he was wrong (back then), but that occurred in 2006. Why should he still be harassed, 4 years after the incident, by every random dickhead who feels like getting in his face? Assuming this exchange actually occurred, you had the response coming. Well, he keeps shoving this incident back into the public. Every time a new "video clip" show comes out, he's right there, showing his video and giving commentary. And continuing to deny any responsibility for it. RealTV, Max X, and most recently, Discovery Channel's "World's Worst Vacation Videos" (Or something like that) If he wants it to go away, maybe he should quit making money off of it. In fairness, I might be willing to adjust my feelings about the OP if Lutz was still making a dishonest issue out of it in recent times. Can you show us how recently he's done that? Show it? No, I can't find it. But it was on Spike TV's "Max X" back in 05 or 06. And I saw it (complete with interview) last summer on TruTV (not Discovery, my mistake) on the World's Worst Vacation Videos show. I don't know when the interview was done, but he looked fairly old. And even if it was an older interview, I think he still has to give permission and gets paid for it to be used in a new show (I could be wrong on that though)."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FanOfFalling 0 #20 March 21, 2010 QuoteI don't know when the interview was done, but he looked fairly old. And even if it was an older interview, I think he still has to give permission and gets paid for it to be used in a new show (I could be wrong on that though). Permission certainly. Payment not so certain. Depends a lot on weather they could get him for free or if they cared if they got him at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #21 March 21, 2010 QuotePermission certainly. Why certainly? I would think it depends on whatever agreement he made when he provided the video in the first place. I think it's far from certain and that he probably waived any rights he has a long time ago. The beer's on me if you can show any proof that he's notified when someone replays that vid. Edit to add an attachment. Here's one of the releases ABC has people sign when they submit a video to America's Funniest Home Videos. I don't know if Lutz made a similar agreement but I wouldn't be surprised if he did and I think it's a stretch to say that he certainly didn't. http://a.abc.com/media/primetime/afv/forms/AFHV_Exclusive_Release_11-20-09.pdfOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #22 March 21, 2010 You should email Lutz and offer up a olive branch... ....or a Bowling Ball! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #23 March 21, 2010 Quote ....or a Bowling Ball! He'll just drop it on his foot, break a toe, and sue you. Sorry, but this guy should take up cribbage.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,345 #24 March 21, 2010 Quote Quote ....or a Bowling Ball! He'll just drop it on his foot, break a toe, and sue you. Sorry, but this guy should take up cribbage. Bad idea. Paper cuts from the cards and you can put an eye out with those little pegs!Seriously, I think there is a difference between the release you sign for sending in a Video to America's Funniest Home Videos and being interviewed by a clip show. I could be wrong, maybe if all the shows were produced by the same company, and the interview was from a while back, and the release he signed back then gave all the rights away for the future. From the little I can find, the producers for the two shows are different. IIRC, though (and I admit my memory might be wrong) the interview from Max X and the one from World's Worst were different."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #25 March 21, 2010 Did Lutz sue Perris? Does anyone know... for sure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
