fasted3 0 #1 March 27, 2011 It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #2 March 27, 2011 Don't get knocked out. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #3 March 28, 2011 QuoteDon't get knocked out. Good answer, but can you guarantee that you can prevent it?But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSISK 0 #4 March 28, 2011 Your knocked out... what can you do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #5 March 28, 2011 Quote Your knocked out... what can you do? Use my super power of being able to wake up whenever I want and pull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #6 March 28, 2011 Hope I wake up before I go in. Hope I turned my AAD on. Hope my AAD works. Hope John Mitchell or Jeff Sanders is on my jump. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #7 March 28, 2011 Quote Your knocked out... what can you do? Nothing. If it comes to this you can hope your AAD will svce you, or you can die. Still looking for other options.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #8 March 28, 2011 QuoteGood answer, but can you guarantee that you can prevent it? Of course not. Just like you can't guarantee that you won't have a fatal double mal, or that some toggle-whippin' idiot won't kill you under canopy, or that you won't screw up and do something idiotic yourself. Unless you don't jump, I guess... There are risks involved and they might kill you. Some people understand and accept that. What's the problem with that?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #9 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood answer, but can you guarantee that you can prevent it? Of course not. Just like you can't guarantee that you won't have a fatal double mal, or that some toggle-whippin' idiot won't kill you under canopy, or that you won't screw up and do something idiotic yourself. Unless you don't jump, I guess... There are risks involved and they might kill you. Some people understand and accept that. What's the problem with that? NONE. I just like the option of maybe surving if you have an AAD.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #10 March 28, 2011 Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #11 March 28, 2011 Quote Hope I wake up before I go in. Hope I turned my AAD on. Hope my AAD works. Hope John Mitchell or Jeff Sanders is on my jump. +1"safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemedic 7 #12 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood answer, but can you guarantee that you can prevent it? Of course not. Just like you can't guarantee that you won't have a fatal double mal, or that some toggle-whippin' idiot won't kill you under canopy, or that you won't screw up and do something idiotic yourself. Unless you don't jump, I guess... Even if you're not jumping. Some idiot without an AAD is going to get knocked out and crash through the roof and kill you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasted3 0 #13 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Die Happy now?But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnnyMarko 1 #14 March 28, 2011 Quote Still looking for other options. ?????????? What are you looking for? Totally knocked out, no AAD, there are really no other options Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasted3 0 #15 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuote Still looking for other options. ?????????? What are you looking for? Totally knocked out, no AAD, there are really no other options yes. I agree. I think in this case an AAD is the only opition. This is what I was looking for.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DeNReN 0 #16 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Die Happy now? Hey...you asked a stupid question so I asked a stupid question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #17 March 28, 2011 QuoteI think in this case an AAD is the only opition. This is what I was looking for. No, there is another option. It's accepting that you might be killed skydiving.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,121 #18 March 28, 2011 QuoteIt happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AADYou're absolutely right. Just as you might die if you have a heart attack on the freeway. It's a risk you take skydiving. You can mitigate it by having an AAD, but you can't prevent it. There's a big difference between mitigating and preventing problems. Deal with it. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasted3 0 #19 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuoteI think in this case an AAD is the only opition. This is what I was looking for. No, there is another option. It's accepting that you might be killed skydiving. I accept that. Given the choice though, I will take maybe over for sure.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VideoFly 0 #20 March 28, 2011 Once on a tandem video jump, the student caused the instructor to turn toward the tail on exit. Although I have filmed this TM hundreds of times, the pair went into a front flip much closer to me than usual. While they were in an inverted position with their backs toward me, I simply placed my hand against the rig to secure more distance between us. Unfortunately, while slightly slowing their rotation, the TM’s knees bent and I was kicked in the head with the backs of the TM’s heels. I blacked out for a moment or two and then came to, albeit foggy at best. With a bit of consciousness and worried that I would go out again, I backed up and deployed my main. The video was over anyway because my camera was broken from the kick. Although my Cypres was on, I knew it was only a back-up and the jump quickly became one for survival. While under canopy, I was still dazed and my focus was dedicated to returning to the DZ and landing safely. Once on the ground, the student screamed at me repeatedly for ruining her video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites faulknerwn 36 #21 March 28, 2011 99.9% of people getting knocked out could have been avoided by better choices on the ground. At one point I had an AAD, then had to jump without it for a while. I found myself suddenly second-guessing jumps I would have gone on without thinking twice before. If there is a jump that you don't feel comfortable going on without an AAD - don't do it with one. Simple as that. Your subconscious is telling you that there's something wrong here.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites firemedic 7 #22 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. I'd walk out of the swamp with a new pair of alligator Boots Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasted3 0 #23 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Die Happy now? Hey...you asked a stupid question so I asked a stupid question. I really don't think this is a stupid question. If you don't have an AAD you have no options. With one, you still have a chanve. PS: please excuse my sloppy typing. My screen is for shit.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BrianM 1 #24 March 28, 2011 QuoteYou are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'm going to count on that man who is eating alligators to save me - he sounds like a tough guy!"It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #25 March 28, 2011 ok so No AAD Knocked out.... 1. hope that the unconsciousness is temporary and that i come to....before i hit the ground, so i can pull SOMEthing!! 2. hope that it was a super high altitude exit, and then, refer to answer # 1. 3. hope that whatever it was that knocked ME out..... (and by the way... Just HOW DO you expect that scenario would manifest itself???... Hitting the plane??? hitting someone else?? having someone else hit YOU??? Hitting some foreign object.. bird, airplane..? ) was a hard enough impact to hopefully dislodge my P C . OR pop my main pin, in which case the packing procedure i use for my pilot chute, ( Thanks Brian G ) will allow the pc to be extracted by the D bag and bridle...and will result in a Non Mal deployment. 4. do my best to avoid the possibility altogether... by wearing a helmet,, and being Tougher!!!! than whatever hit me...in which case the NEXT move would be to check on who ever DID hit me... to see if they are ok>>> ( been there done that ) ( everyone was ok ) jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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fasted3 0 #13 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Die Happy now?But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #14 March 28, 2011 Quote Still looking for other options. ?????????? What are you looking for? Totally knocked out, no AAD, there are really no other options Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #15 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuote Still looking for other options. ?????????? What are you looking for? Totally knocked out, no AAD, there are really no other options yes. I agree. I think in this case an AAD is the only opition. This is what I was looking for.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #16 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Die Happy now? Hey...you asked a stupid question so I asked a stupid question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #17 March 28, 2011 QuoteI think in this case an AAD is the only opition. This is what I was looking for. No, there is another option. It's accepting that you might be killed skydiving.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #18 March 28, 2011 QuoteIt happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AADYou're absolutely right. Just as you might die if you have a heart attack on the freeway. It's a risk you take skydiving. You can mitigate it by having an AAD, but you can't prevent it. There's a big difference between mitigating and preventing problems. Deal with it. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #19 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuoteI think in this case an AAD is the only opition. This is what I was looking for. No, there is another option. It's accepting that you might be killed skydiving. I accept that. Given the choice though, I will take maybe over for sure.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VideoFly 0 #20 March 28, 2011 Once on a tandem video jump, the student caused the instructor to turn toward the tail on exit. Although I have filmed this TM hundreds of times, the pair went into a front flip much closer to me than usual. While they were in an inverted position with their backs toward me, I simply placed my hand against the rig to secure more distance between us. Unfortunately, while slightly slowing their rotation, the TM’s knees bent and I was kicked in the head with the backs of the TM’s heels. I blacked out for a moment or two and then came to, albeit foggy at best. With a bit of consciousness and worried that I would go out again, I backed up and deployed my main. The video was over anyway because my camera was broken from the kick. Although my Cypres was on, I knew it was only a back-up and the jump quickly became one for survival. While under canopy, I was still dazed and my focus was dedicated to returning to the DZ and landing safely. Once on the ground, the student screamed at me repeatedly for ruining her video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 36 #21 March 28, 2011 99.9% of people getting knocked out could have been avoided by better choices on the ground. At one point I had an AAD, then had to jump without it for a while. I found myself suddenly second-guessing jumps I would have gone on without thinking twice before. If there is a jump that you don't feel comfortable going on without an AAD - don't do it with one. Simple as that. Your subconscious is telling you that there's something wrong here.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemedic 7 #22 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. I'd walk out of the swamp with a new pair of alligator Boots Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #23 March 28, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote It happens to you. What do you do? Answer: die, most likely, fi you don't have an AAD. If you don't have an AAD and have a better answer, I'd love to hear it. You are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'd love to hear it. Die Happy now? Hey...you asked a stupid question so I asked a stupid question. I really don't think this is a stupid question. If you don't have an AAD you have no options. With one, you still have a chanve. PS: please excuse my sloppy typing. My screen is for shit.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianM 1 #24 March 28, 2011 QuoteYou are knocked out and a AAD cuts your reserve closing loop for you and you land in a pit of man eating alligators and you are not wearing gator repellant. What do you do? I'm going to count on that man who is eating alligators to save me - he sounds like a tough guy!"It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #25 March 28, 2011 ok so No AAD Knocked out.... 1. hope that the unconsciousness is temporary and that i come to....before i hit the ground, so i can pull SOMEthing!! 2. hope that it was a super high altitude exit, and then, refer to answer # 1. 3. hope that whatever it was that knocked ME out..... (and by the way... Just HOW DO you expect that scenario would manifest itself???... Hitting the plane??? hitting someone else?? having someone else hit YOU??? Hitting some foreign object.. bird, airplane..? ) was a hard enough impact to hopefully dislodge my P C . OR pop my main pin, in which case the packing procedure i use for my pilot chute, ( Thanks Brian G ) will allow the pc to be extracted by the D bag and bridle...and will result in a Non Mal deployment. 4. do my best to avoid the possibility altogether... by wearing a helmet,, and being Tougher!!!! than whatever hit me...in which case the NEXT move would be to check on who ever DID hit me... to see if they are ok>>> ( been there done that ) ( everyone was ok ) jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
