JoeWeber 2,299 #101 February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: At 40,000 and 20,000 feet gunnery is less effective than at what altitude? What exactly makes it less effective? I'll look more into it but I think it's a proximity problem, but probably not so much at 20,000 feet as higher where to take it out with guns you need to get much closer than safety allows. Again, I'll look more into it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #102 February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, piisfish said: I wonder why they missile down those things. They should cannon/gun them down, would make for a slower fall and ease the research of the bits and pieces. Because bullets are not effective against a balloon: The time a wayward Canadian balloon caused an international stir — and thwarted 3 air forces Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #103 February 15, 2023 14 hours ago, piisfish said: I wonder why they missile down those things. They should cannon/gun them down, would make for a slower fall and ease the research of the bits and pieces. Also, the $400,000 price tag for a Sidewinder pays for a lot of dumb projectiles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #104 February 16, 2023 We may have a clue what those last 3 objects were: Aviation Leak: Hobby Club’s Missing Balloon Feared Shot Down By USAF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #105 February 16, 2023 Website that tracks balloons with Ham radio telemetry onboard. I wonder if we could get USAF to update this site each time they take out out. Sondehub Amateur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #106 February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ryoder said: We may have a clue what those last 3 objects were: Aviation Leak: Hobby Club’s Missing Balloon Feared Shot Down By USAF That is just outstanding. What's next, Happy Birthday party balloons? Hopefully science classes will still have some balloons left when our new $300 Million Dollar 6th Gen fighter with it's $500 million dollar Drone squadron in tow comes on line. That'll learn them kids some science. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #107 February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: That is just outstanding. What's next, Happy Birthday party balloons? Hopefully science classes will still have some balloons left when our new $300 Million Dollar 6th Gen fighter with it's $500 million dollar Drone squadron in tow comes on line. Still unsure why we didn't just ask the Jews to use their space lasers to shoot them down. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #108 February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, billvon said: Still unsure why we didn't just ask the Jews to use their space lasers to shoot them down. Because that wouldn't be woke and that's, apparently, the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #109 February 17, 2023 9 hours ago, billvon said: Still unsure why we didn't just ask the Jews to use their space lasers to shoot them down. See post #1 of this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #110 February 17, 2023 14 hours ago, JoeWeber said: That is just outstanding. What's next, Happy Birthday party balloons? Hopefully science classes will still have some balloons left when our new $300 Million Dollar 6th Gen fighter with it's $500 million dollar Drone squadron in tow comes on line. That'll learn them kids some science. This is what happens when POTUS feels a political need to look strong because the opposition feels they can score points by accusing him of being weak. Even Trudeau got a chance to puff up and beat on his chest. This episode almost makes the Chinese system look good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #111 February 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, gowlerk said: This is what happens when POTUS feels a political need to look strong because the opposition feels they can score points by accusing him of being weak. Even Trudeau got a chance to puff up and beat on his chest. This episode almost makes the Chinese system look good. Trudeau needs distractions from time to time. Emails show Trudeau minister's office quashed details of $6,000-a-night London suite "Federal government staff were prepared for reporters to find out about the exorbitant hotel bill, including a more than $6,000-a-night suite, that politicians and government staff incurred while in London for the funeral of Queen Elizabeth II. Internal documents show Global Affairs Canada (GAC) staff discussing weeks after the funeral how to avoid the embarrassment happening again with the coronation of King Charles." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #112 February 20, 2023 $400k for an AIM-9X. Hobby balloon $12 - $180 $(unknown) for F-22 missions, search parties. The cost of hysteria. https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #113 February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, kallend said: $400k for an AIM-9X. Hobby balloon $12 - $180 $(unknown) for F-22 missions, search parties. The cost of hysteria. https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf It’s hard to believe leaders will be able to make rational decisions when faced with a real crisis. Biden succumbed to political pressure from idiots, which pretty much makes him also an idiot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #114 February 20, 2023 7 hours ago, gowlerk said: Biden succumbed to political pressure from idiots, which pretty much makes him also an idiot. Unfortunately "political pressure from idiots" is another way to describe democracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #115 February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, billvon said: 8 hours ago, gowlerk said: Biden succumbed to political pressure from idiots, which pretty much makes him also an idiot. Unfortunately "political pressure from idiots" is another way to describe democracy. Idiocracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #116 December 29, 2023 Hmmm...a wireless ISP in the US with nationwide coverage...lemme think... U.S. intelligence officials determined the Chinese spy balloon used a U.S. internet provider to communicate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #117 December 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, ryoder said: Hmmm...a wireless ISP in the US with nationwide coverage...lemme think... U.S. intelligence officials determined the Chinese spy balloon used a U.S. internet provider to communicate Fuck everyone! Can you hear me now? Do I win? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 4 #118 December 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Fuck everyone! Can you hear me now? Do I win? Sure you win a qwepie doll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites