Atlanta Shootings

[wmw999 2,149]

Yet another fine upstanding citizen has decided that he was a good guy with a gun. Went and shot 8 people, 6 of them Asian-American women, who were employees at the massage parlors he had frequented. Said it was because he was a sex addict, and he wanted to remove the temptation.

What I find interesting is all the takes on whether its racist in motivation, but I think it's at least as much sexist. The underlying racism is in that massage parlors are almost exclusively Oriental in many places, because, well, guys like the thought of compliant young Asian women I guess.

So many targets -- misogyny, racism, sex trade, gun rights...

Wendy P.

[billvon 2,434]

1 minute ago, wmw999 said:

Yet another fine upstanding citizen has decided that he was a good guy with a gun. Went and shot 8 people, 6 of them Asian-American women, who were employees at the massage parlors he had frequented.

Another sad part of all this are the comments on the stories that have been posted.  "No happy ending!" was a frequent joke.  Haha.

[SkyDekker 1,145]

8 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Yet another fine upstanding citizen has decided that he was a good guy with a gun. Went and shot 8 people, 6 of them Asian-American women, who were employees at the massage parlors he had frequented. Said it was because he was a sex addict, and he wanted to remove the temptation.

What I find interesting is all the takes on whether its racist in motivation, but I think it's at least as much sexist. The underlying racism is in that massage parlors are almost exclusively Oriental in many places, because, well, guys like the thought of compliant young Asian women I guess.

So many targets -- misogyny, racism, sex trade, gun rights...

Wendy P.

And a police chief who seemed to sum it up as the perpetrator having a bad day. Not sure that is what he really meant, but certainly not a great "look".

[gowlerk 1,927]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

And a police chief who seemed to sum it up as the perpetrator having a bad day. Not sure that is what he really meant, but certainly not a great "look".

Another 8 victims of the mighty 2nd Amendment.

[JoeWeber 2,326]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Yet another fine upstanding citizen has decided that he was a good guy with a gun. Went and shot 8 people, 6 of them Asian-American women, who were employees at the massage parlors he had frequented. Said it was because he was a sex addict, and he wanted to remove the temptation.

What I find interesting is all the takes on whether its racist in motivation, but I think it's at least as much sexist. The underlying racism is in that massage parlors are almost exclusively Oriental in many places, because, well, guys like the thought of compliant young Asian women I guess.

So many targets -- misogyny, racism, sex trade, gun rights...

Wendy P.

You forgot the most likely cause: religion.

[wmw999 2,149]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

And a police chief who seemed to sum it up as the perpetrator having a bad day. Not sure that is what he really meant, but certainly not a great "look".

Shit I missed that. I was listening to a commentator on Asian American relations (an issue after all the “Wuhan Flu” etc crap). Of course she sees it through the eyes of someone who’s been a contact point for people on the receiving end for the last year, and ascribes it more to racism than misogyny, though calling out both. But she said she’s had hundreds (and even if it’s tens, it’s a lot) of hate mail messages telling her she has a nerve to talk up, Chink bitch, when they guy SAID it was about his sex addiction. 
Anything so that the system they’re invested in doesn’t take any heat. That’s the other side of “individual responsibility,” it means that no one else has to think about their effect. 
Wendy P. 

[Phil1111 915]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

You forgot the most likely cause: religion.

"Tyler Bayless, the former roommate, said in an interview that he lived with Mr. Long at the house in the Atlanta suburb of Roswell for about five months beginning in August 2019. Nearly once a month, Mr. Long, who was then 20, would admit to Mr. Bayless and others in the apartment that he had again relapsed by visiting a massage parlor to have sex with an employee, Mr. Bayless said.

He said Mr. Long’s admissions were always paired with discussions about his Christian faith and his relationship with God and his parents.

“It tore him up inside,” Mr. Bayless said.

Mr. Bayless, 35, said he did not want to diminish the pain that Asian-American people were feeling in the wake of the attack and was only describing his recollections of Mr. Long to give people more clarity about what he described as the “religious mania” of Mr. Long."

The gun was legally purchased hours before the shooting. Disclosures from the sheriffs office indicated he intended  killing more in the "pornography industry."

Edited March 18, 2021 by Phil1111

[JoeWeber 2,326]

9 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

The gun was legally purchased hours before the shooting

Lovely. The Lord commands and the local gun shop immediately complies while the fervor is strong. I guess we'll hear none of this would have happened if hookers had guns. Of course they might be at a concealed carry disadvantage. 

[sfzombie13 307]

13 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Lovely. The Lord commands and the local gun shop immediately complies while the fervor is strong. I guess we'll hear none of this would have happened if hookers had guns. Of course they might be at a concealed carry disadvantage. 

or it the law which i seem to recall about waiting limits would have been applied, or not so easily circumvented at the very least.

[Phil1111 915]

1 hour ago, sfzombie13 said:

or it the law which i seem to recall about waiting limits would have been applied, or not so easily circumvented at the very least.

Subservient young women performing the worst jobs imaginable to make ends meet. Meets religion, mental issues at the four corners of deviancy. Then throw a gun into the equation. All in the framework of cuts to mental health spending(2019):

"The department proposes to cut $21.1 million from core services administered by local community service boards that aim to stave off costly hospital stays for mentally ill people. With smaller budgets, those boards could have trouble handling a growing demand for mental health services, creating a risk for “impacting increased suicidality, substance use disorders and demands on crisis services,” the budget plan says.

The department also proposes to trim $16.3 million from the state’s housing voucher program and $1.6 million from a program aimed at increasing employment for mentally ill people."

Cut mental health spending, buy more guns, attack Asians with malicious statements during a pandemic.

[BIGUN 1,072]

3 hours ago, sfzombie13 said:

hich i seem to recall about waiting limits would have been applied, or not so easily circumvented at the very least.

Ten U.S. states have mandatory waiting periods from 1 to 14 days. Georgia is not one of them. In the remaining forty states, you can walk in, point at a gun, they run a background check and give you the gun. 

Having said that, there is currently a gun bill that has passed the house that, 1) would make a federal ten day waiting period across the nation, and 2) closes the "Gun Show" loophole by requiring EVERY purchase of personal firearms to be run through a dealer and registered to the next owner. The only exception is spousal gift purchase. 

Well, unless you have Prime. Prime gets you anything and everything in two days and sometimes tomorrow.     

[gowlerk 1,927]

6 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Well, unless you have Prime. Prime gets you anything and everything in two days and sometimes tomorrow

Which made me think about it and look for the Amazon policy.

 

https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/external/200164950

[wolfriverjoe 1,351]

On 3/18/2021 at 12:42 PM, SkyDekker said:

And a police chief who seemed to sum it up as the perpetrator having a bad day. Not sure that is what he really meant, but certainly not a great "look".

Actually a Captain, not the chief (and of the Sheriff's Dept).

However, despite the fact that there have been thousands of attacks on Asians, the fact that Trump stoked that hatred with comments like 'Kung Flu', all of that, this cop said it was 'a bad day'.

Oh, wait. 
That same Sheriff's Department Captain had a FB post saying how much he liked his shirt. The one saying "Covid-19 Imported from Chy-na".

Really.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/spa-shooter-bad-day-racist-facebook

[wmw999 2,149]

Man you can’t make this up

Wendy P. 

[kallend 1,648]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Man you can’t make this up

Wendy P. 

Based on what my wife tells me about growing up in The Deep South, I don't find this in the least bit surprising.

[Phil1111 915]

Evidently the Southern Baptist church in Georgia where the suspect was a member has  excommunicated the suspect. Kicked out anyway if baptists don't excommunicate.  They stated that the attacks were “the result of a sinful heart and depraved mind” 

“We want to be clear that this extreme and wicked act is nothing less than rebellion against our Holy God and His Word,” the statement from Crabapple First Baptist Church, in Milton, Ga., said. It added, “The shootings were a total repudiation of our faith and practice, and such actions are completely unacceptable and contrary to the gospel.”

"Nico Straughan, who went to high school with Long, described him as “super nice, super Christian” and “very quiet,” adding that Long walked around the school with a Bible.

Bayless said Long “would describe several of his sexual addiction ‘relapses’ as he called them. He would have a deep feeling of remorse and shame and say he needed to return to prayer and to return to God.”

So the suspect sought treatment for an addiction to pornography and sex. Yet the church he belonged to told him sex was sinful if you're not married. The Crabapple Church offered no apology for any role they played in formulating the psychology of the suspect.

[wmw999 2,149]

And here I thought church was a hospital for sinners, and not a museum for the perfect.

Wendy P.

[Phil1111 915]

Join a church that demonizes sex and the body of the opposite sex. That teaches you that hell awaits in such temptations. Then start a counseling service to deal with people that develop conflicts in their minds that can't reconcile sex and human behaviors. Religion and counseling in Georgia. mmmmm....

"When Brad Onishi heard that the man accused of a rampage at three Atlanta-area spas told detectives that he had carried out the attacks as a way to eliminate his own temptations, the claim sounded painfully familiar.

Dr. Onishi, who grew up in a strict evangelical community in Southern California that emphasized sexual purity, had spent his teenage years tearing out any advertisements in surfing magazines that featured women in bikinis. He had traded his online passwords with friends to hold himself accountable. “We had a militant vigilance: Don’t let anything in the house that will tempt you sexually,” Dr. Onishi, now an associate professor of religious studies at Skidmore College, recalled.

The evangelical culture he was raised in, he said, “teaches women to hate their bodies, as the source of temptation, and it teaches men to hate their minds, which lead them into lust and sexual immorality.”

Robert Aaron Long, the suspect in the massacres that left eight people dead, told the police this week that he had a “sexual addiction,” and he had been a customer at two of the spas that he targeted. He was so intent on avoiding pornography that he blocked several websites on his computer and had sought help at a Christian rehab clinic."

Edited March 20, 2021 by Phil1111

[SkyDekker 1,145]

On 3/20/2021 at 5:47 AM, wmw999 said:

And here I thought church was a hospital for sinners, and not a museum for the perfect.

Wendy P.

That church will be whatever you want it to be, as long as you give it money.