normiss 622 #1 April 28, 2005 I'm looking for a killer aerial of drop zones... http://www.keyhole.com (yes I suck at porting url's!) seems to have the best but require a subscription to drop the "Trial" watermark over the photo. Does anyone have another good high-resolution source? Maybe a membership to an on-line aerial service? Silly request...but I want my favorite view as my background on my PC! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jdfreefly 1 #2 April 28, 2005 try maps.google.com, enter the address for the dz and click on the satelite link in the upper right hand corner. Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 622 #3 April 28, 2005 the problem with maps.google.com is the resolution of most drop zones due to their rural locations... I'd have to be high to focus on those.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Feeblemind 1 #4 April 28, 2005 QuoteI'm looking for a killer aerial of drop zones... http://www.keyhole.com (yes I suck at porting url's!) seems to have the best but require a subscription to drop the "Trial" watermark over the photo. Does anyone have another good high-resolution source? Maybe a membership to an on-line aerial service? Silly request...but I want my favorite view as my background on my PC! Here is a clicky www.keyhole.com Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites firstime 0 #5 April 28, 2005 global image .com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 622 #6 April 28, 2005 I gotta finger out that "clicky" link thingy... I also found if you Google search for the local property appraisers office...they may have maps on-line too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EricTheRed 0 #7 April 28, 2005 Hell, our county even has photos of peoples houses and the floor plans on line. Wanna know how many tiolets at the neighbor's house? No problem...illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Conundrum 1 #8 April 28, 2005 nm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grue 1 #9 April 28, 2005 Here's a workup I did of my DZ using imagery from terraserver-usa http://spiceweasel.net/dropzone.jpg Also attached it, just in case cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 0 #10 April 28, 2005 Try Terraserver. I like Google maps better, but you are right that they don't offer enough detail in enough areas. For the areas you can't find on Google, try Terraserver. The light green areas offer pretty good coverage, and dark green areas offer even better detail.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 622 #11 April 28, 2005 nm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #12 April 28, 2005 Google purchased Keyhole last year. The images on the google maps are derived from the same technology but the resolution and data coverage is different between the web product and the downloadable client (I think mainly the Airphoto USA images aren't on the web but the web's 15m image is better). Typically the downloadable keyhole client has much better resolution, it also has 3D terrain information, the terrain 3D resolution varies independently from the images. A great DZ to check out with imagery and 3D terain using the Keyhole client software is Skydive San Diego at Otay Lakes. This shows what can be done with the right data. High resolution coverage is just a matter of luck, urban areas tend to have the high resolution data. The US is in at 15 m everywhere with higher resolution in many places. Resolution and coverage will get better with time but high res good data is expensive and tends to get flown where there are customers for the data. For source data of the quality in keyhole try here: http://www.airphotousa.com/ But rural coverage won't be much better than Keyhole's stuff. They will sell you a print though if you do find your area, and they have a map showing coverage. Other interesting sources: http://www.spaceimaging.com/ http://www.digitalglobe.com/ http://www.orbimage.com/ The satellite providers tend to have higher resolution available in rural areas because they orbit instead of flying and buying an image chip for something the size of a DZ can be affordable depending on your application. Unlike the aerial sources they are limited to a useful resolution of about 1m with their current birds and can have cloud cover (depends on the product). Another online tool & image source to help you find data you're looking for: http://www.globexplorer.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites heidihagen 0 #13 April 28, 2005 Quotebut I want my favorite view as my background on my PC! i did the same thing with my dz using google maps here's one-- i googled it http://www.airportone.com/gaep/Airport%20CD/photogallery/po/Zephyrhills%20Aerial%20-%20March%202001.jpg if your profile is incorrect, just ask someone on here that flies a camera wherever you jump... i'm sure they have one.i didn't lose my mind, i sold it on ebay. .:need a container to fit 5'4", 110 lb. cypres ready & able to fit a 170 main (or slightly smaller):.[/ce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #14 April 29, 2005 Google only has 15m over zhills but the downloadable client had much better data, I can't upload a large attachment but here is a crop from the larger image. This data is sourced from Airphoto USA they can sell you an image of the area if that's all you need or you can just download the keyhole client yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 622 #15 April 29, 2005 damn Dorbie! almost looks like I'm under canopy! THANKS!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sdctlc 0 #16 April 29, 2005 Here is a shot of Blue Skies in Washington..... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Winznut 0 #17 April 29, 2005 Maybe you want to try "NASA World Wind"http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/. Works like Keyhole and it's free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 0 #18 April 29, 2005 Wow that looks really cool. I'll have to wait until I get home to download that massive file though.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #19 April 29, 2005 There are similarities with the keyhole and worldwind stuff but the products are not the same. Image quality is significantly affected by content and the NASA viewer tends to have Blue Marble (MODIS visible spectrum satellite composite) with Landsat-7 as their higher resolution insets, that limits the useful ground resolution to about 15m where they have the landsat coverage. This is probably not a technical limitation, it's just the data they're rendering with. The keyhole stuff has a 15m base image everywhere in the USA to which they add AirPhotoUSA data that's anywhere from 2m to 3 inch resolution (about 4ft & 2ft is typical). If you want to see something impressive check out the strip in Las Vegas or downtown San Diego in the keyhole viewer. The absolute best data in the keyhole stuff is just North of the VAB in Cape Canaveral rolling into the building, you can see individual tiles on the Shuttle and that data is about an inch in resolution (Sourced from a NASA image taken from the roof of the VAB). It depends how close you want to look over your DZ, but if you want to recognize detailed features you'll need good resolution data. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unparagoned 0 #20 April 30, 2005 For us in the UK, www.multimap.com is good and has a pretty good resolution Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BeteNoire 0 #21 June 4, 2013 What's wrong with google maps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TimHolt 0 #22 July 21, 2017 Google Maps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TimHolt 0 #23 July 21, 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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jdfreefly 1 #2 April 28, 2005 try maps.google.com, enter the address for the dz and click on the satelite link in the upper right hand corner. Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #3 April 28, 2005 the problem with maps.google.com is the resolution of most drop zones due to their rural locations... I'd have to be high to focus on those.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #4 April 28, 2005 QuoteI'm looking for a killer aerial of drop zones... http://www.keyhole.com (yes I suck at porting url's!) seems to have the best but require a subscription to drop the "Trial" watermark over the photo. Does anyone have another good high-resolution source? Maybe a membership to an on-line aerial service? Silly request...but I want my favorite view as my background on my PC! Here is a clicky www.keyhole.com Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #5 April 28, 2005 global image .com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #6 April 28, 2005 I gotta finger out that "clicky" link thingy... I also found if you Google search for the local property appraisers office...they may have maps on-line too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #7 April 28, 2005 Hell, our county even has photos of peoples houses and the floor plans on line. Wanna know how many tiolets at the neighbor's house? No problem...illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #9 April 28, 2005 Here's a workup I did of my DZ using imagery from terraserver-usa http://spiceweasel.net/dropzone.jpg Also attached it, just in case cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #10 April 28, 2005 Try Terraserver. I like Google maps better, but you are right that they don't offer enough detail in enough areas. For the areas you can't find on Google, try Terraserver. The light green areas offer pretty good coverage, and dark green areas offer even better detail.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #12 April 28, 2005 Google purchased Keyhole last year. The images on the google maps are derived from the same technology but the resolution and data coverage is different between the web product and the downloadable client (I think mainly the Airphoto USA images aren't on the web but the web's 15m image is better). Typically the downloadable keyhole client has much better resolution, it also has 3D terrain information, the terrain 3D resolution varies independently from the images. A great DZ to check out with imagery and 3D terain using the Keyhole client software is Skydive San Diego at Otay Lakes. This shows what can be done with the right data. High resolution coverage is just a matter of luck, urban areas tend to have the high resolution data. The US is in at 15 m everywhere with higher resolution in many places. Resolution and coverage will get better with time but high res good data is expensive and tends to get flown where there are customers for the data. For source data of the quality in keyhole try here: http://www.airphotousa.com/ But rural coverage won't be much better than Keyhole's stuff. They will sell you a print though if you do find your area, and they have a map showing coverage. Other interesting sources: http://www.spaceimaging.com/ http://www.digitalglobe.com/ http://www.orbimage.com/ The satellite providers tend to have higher resolution available in rural areas because they orbit instead of flying and buying an image chip for something the size of a DZ can be affordable depending on your application. Unlike the aerial sources they are limited to a useful resolution of about 1m with their current birds and can have cloud cover (depends on the product). Another online tool & image source to help you find data you're looking for: http://www.globexplorer.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heidihagen 0 #13 April 28, 2005 Quotebut I want my favorite view as my background on my PC! i did the same thing with my dz using google maps here's one-- i googled it http://www.airportone.com/gaep/Airport%20CD/photogallery/po/Zephyrhills%20Aerial%20-%20March%202001.jpg if your profile is incorrect, just ask someone on here that flies a camera wherever you jump... i'm sure they have one.i didn't lose my mind, i sold it on ebay. .:need a container to fit 5'4", 110 lb. cypres ready & able to fit a 170 main (or slightly smaller):.[/ce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #14 April 29, 2005 Google only has 15m over zhills but the downloadable client had much better data, I can't upload a large attachment but here is a crop from the larger image. This data is sourced from Airphoto USA they can sell you an image of the area if that's all you need or you can just download the keyhole client yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #15 April 29, 2005 damn Dorbie! almost looks like I'm under canopy! THANKS!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #16 April 29, 2005 Here is a shot of Blue Skies in Washington..... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winznut 0 #17 April 29, 2005 Maybe you want to try "NASA World Wind"http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/. Works like Keyhole and it's free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #18 April 29, 2005 Wow that looks really cool. I'll have to wait until I get home to download that massive file though.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #19 April 29, 2005 There are similarities with the keyhole and worldwind stuff but the products are not the same. Image quality is significantly affected by content and the NASA viewer tends to have Blue Marble (MODIS visible spectrum satellite composite) with Landsat-7 as their higher resolution insets, that limits the useful ground resolution to about 15m where they have the landsat coverage. This is probably not a technical limitation, it's just the data they're rendering with. The keyhole stuff has a 15m base image everywhere in the USA to which they add AirPhotoUSA data that's anywhere from 2m to 3 inch resolution (about 4ft & 2ft is typical). If you want to see something impressive check out the strip in Las Vegas or downtown San Diego in the keyhole viewer. The absolute best data in the keyhole stuff is just North of the VAB in Cape Canaveral rolling into the building, you can see individual tiles on the Shuttle and that data is about an inch in resolution (Sourced from a NASA image taken from the roof of the VAB). It depends how close you want to look over your DZ, but if you want to recognize detailed features you'll need good resolution data. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unparagoned 0 #20 April 30, 2005 For us in the UK, www.multimap.com is good and has a pretty good resolution Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeteNoire 0 #21 June 4, 2013 What's wrong with google maps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites