Chaos in the White House is so bad that . . .

[billvon 2,478]

Apparently the White House is in such chaos that they welcomed the Florida school shooting as a "reprieve."

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“For everyone, it was a distraction or a reprieve,” said the White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reflect internal conversations. “A lot of people here felt like it was a reprieve from seven or eight days of just getting pummeled.”

The official likened the brief political calm to the aftermath of the October shooting in Las Vegas that left 58 dead and hundreds more injured. That tragedy united White House aides and the country in their shared mourning for the victims and their families.

“But as we all know, sadly, when the coverage dies down a little bit, we’ll be back through the chaos,” the official said.

. . .

“From an awful, cynical, purely political point of view, the tragic events in Florida probably helped the White House this week by distracting from the awful wave of scandal and bad news they have faced,” said Michael Steel, a Republican strategist.

The three-day Presidents’ Day weekend added to the hiatus, with Trump traveling to his private Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., with only a few aides and giving others on his beleaguered staff a chance to rest and recuperate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-the-weary-white-house-florida-shooting-offered-a-reprieve-from-scandals/2018/02/19/04293442-158a-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?utm_term=.183850bed4ba
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[rushmc 18]

same shit

different president..


Are you sure this is not a story started by the Russians?

You been known to follow those story lines in the past......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 154]

Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling. got it.

[rushmc 18]

tkhayes

Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling. got it.

Always have

I just proved Bill made the same lying comment in another thread

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Phil1111 943]

rushmc

***Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling. got it.

Always have

I just proved Bill made the same lying comment in another thread

“Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?” It was first recorded in English in 1546.

[jcd11235 0]

rushmc

I just proved …

You have an interesting & unusual definition of proof.

Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

[SkyDekker 1,155]

rushmc

***Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling. got it.

Always have

I just proved Bill made the same lying comment in another thread


No you haven't. Here are some posts where you are clearly not sure if it happened:

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4829686#4829686

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827483#4827483

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827938#4827938

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827976#4827976

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

******Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling. got it.

Always have

I just proved Bill made the same lying comment in another thread


No you haven't. Here are some posts where you are clearly not sure if it happened:

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4829686#4829686

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827483#4827483

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827938#4827938

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827976#4827976

you get so lost in context.

What I was referring to, what I was not sure about, is whether Trump was assisted.

I have posted many times that other countries have meddled for decades.

As we have in theirs.


Most of your links prove you to be off base as well.

Thanks!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,478]

>Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling.

He had to; Trump's admitting it now too.

I liked this from Trump today:

"Question: If all of the Russian meddling took place during the Obama Administration, right up to January 20th, why aren't they the subject of the investigation? Why didn't Obama do something about the meddling? Why aren't Dem crimes under investigation? Ask Jeff Session!"

In other words:

1) There was no Russian meddling
2) OK there was some but it was no big deal
3) It's all Obama's fault.

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>Rush finally acknowledges Russian meddling.

He had to; Trump's admitting it now too.

I liked this from Trump today:

"Question: If all of the Russian meddling took place during the Obama Administration, right up to January 20th, why aren't they the subject of the investigation? Why didn't Obama do something about the meddling? Why aren't Dem crimes under investigation? Ask Jeff Session!"

In other words:

1) There was no Russian meddling
2) OK there was some but it was no big deal
3) It's all Obama's fault.

Why do you keep lying?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,155]

Questions:

Quote

I'm talking about how YOU as an American can be ok with another super-power interfering with YOUR country.

Rush's answer:

Quote

If it happened I do not like it.

So no, you clearly haven't always agreed that the Russian's meddled/interfered.

[jakee 1,280]

billvon

"Question: If all of the Russian meddling took place during the Obama Administration, right up to January 20th, why aren't they the subject of the investigation? Why didn't Obama do something about the meddling? Why aren't Dem crimes under investigation? Ask Jeff Session!"

Wait, he's making the wild claim that Obama is criminally responsible for Russian meddling and he's throwing Sessions under the bus for not doing anything about it?

Nothing like a leader who inspires loyalty....

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[yoink 321]

Stop taking the Troll bait.

[JoeWeber 2,355]

yoink

Stop taking the Troll bait.

It's the only way.

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

Questions:

Quote

I'm talking about how YOU as an American can be ok with another super-power interfering with YOUR country.

Rush's answer:

***If it happened I do not like it.

So no, you clearly haven't always agreed that the Russian's meddled/interfered.

Again, and I'll go slower so maybe you can keep up this time, the context is whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not. But I've also stated in many threads that we know they've been interfering for decades. Just as we interfere in other countries decades just as Obama blatantly interfered in Israel's elections. So get over it. You're wrong

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,155]

Quote

whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not.

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other.

Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did.

If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain.

We do know they very much focussed on swing-States.

[wolfriverjoe 1,371]

SkyDekker

Quote

whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not.

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other.

Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did.

If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain.

We do know they very much focussed on swing-States.

There's also the very simple fact that it doesn't matter whether or not their actions affected the outcome (although it's almost a certainty that they were one of many factors).

The actions of the Russians, the subterfuge, the fabrications and falsehoods, what they did and how they did it, were illegal.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

Quote

whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not.

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other.

Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did.

If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain.

We do know they very much focussed on swing-States.

The Muller team just said that the Russians did not affect the outcome of the election. Obama also said it would not be possible for the Russians to affect the outcome of our election. Have you not been paying attention?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

wolfriverjoe

***

Quote

whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not.

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other.

Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did.

If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain.

We do know they very much focussed on swing-States.

There's also the very simple fact that it doesn't matter whether or not their actions affected the outcome (although it's almost a certainty that they were one of many factors).

The actions of the Russians, the subterfuge, the fabrications and falsehoods, what they did and how they did it, were illegal.

We also need to realize that US citizens can do the exact same thing, which they did, and it's legal, because they are citizens.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,155]

rushmc

***

Quote

whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not.

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other.

Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did.

If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain.

We do know they very much focussed on swing-States.

The Muller team just said that the Russians did not affect the outcome of the election. Obama also said it would not be possible for the Russians to affect the outcome of our election. Have you not been paying attention?

Don't think that is what the Mueller team has said.

And if Obama said that, he would be wrong.

[SkyDekker 1,155]

rushmc

******

Quote

whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not.

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other.

Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did.

If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain.

We do know they very much focussed on swing-States.

There's also the very simple fact that it doesn't matter whether or not their actions affected the outcome (although it's almost a certainty that they were one of many factors).

The actions of the Russians, the subterfuge, the fabrications and falsehoods, what they did and how they did it, were illegal.

We also need to realize that US citizens can do the exact same thing, which they did, and it's legal, because they are citizens.

lol, what a useless statement.

It's like responding to the issue of illegal immigrants working in the US by proudly proclaiming how Americans can legally work in the US.

[wolfriverjoe 1,371]

SkyDekker

Don't think that is what the Mueller team has said.

And if Obama said that, he would be wrong.

Well, you have to remember that is what he thinks they said.

Considering his links often don't say what he claims, I'm not too surprised.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[rushmc 18]

wolfriverjoe

***

Don't think that is what the Mueller team has said.

And if Obama said that, he would be wrong.

Well, you have to remember that is what he thinks they said.

Considering his links often don't say what he claims, I'm not too surprised.

October, 2016. I can't copy the link for some damn reason but you can do the YouTube search.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,478]

>Wait, he's making the wild claim that Obama is criminally responsible for Russian
>meddling and he's throwing Sessions under the bus for not doing anything about it?

Of course. That's what winners do - blame others for their problems, then look for a scapegoat. It's in Art of the Deal, page 171.

[billvon 2,478]

>We also need to realize that US citizens can do the exact same thing, which they did, and
>it's legal, because they are citizens.

Unless it's Clinton - then it's illegal. Because reasons.