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4 hours ago, DJL said:

You're barking up the wrong tree on that one.  I'm in the camp saying his staff members did shady shit but there was never a formal conduit between him and Putin.

Sorry to inform you but Barr said there was no collusion between any American person Trump or any of trumps campaign staff. That tree that I’m barking up doesn’t exist

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8 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

With the exculpatory factor being the people involved were too stupid to understand they were committing crimes.

 

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1118903244774883328/photo/1

No collusion. No obstruction. We have the political bullshit left. I’ve been watching Shepard Smith on Fox and CNN as long as I can stomach it and you were following the lines that you and Nader are putting out there. Going to be fun to watch.

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4 minutes ago, rushmc said:

No collusion. No obstruction. We have the political bullshit left. I’ve been watching Shepard Smith on Fox and CNN as long as I can stomach it and you were following the lines that you and Nader are putting out there. Going to be fun to watch.

from the report:

 

"If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment"

 

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9 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

from the report:

 

"If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment"

 

 Yep. And it’s got nothing to do with the accusation. It has everything to do with having evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. The president doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent. The prosecutor has to prove his guilty. But you guys don’t give a fuck about that 

 

This thing was written as a political document open shit up the way you’re seeing it. To give the rabid mouth foaming crap that Is needed to keep the fraud going. But in the end it’s not gonna matter.

 

No collusion. That’s for damn sure. No obstruction.

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13 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

from the report:

 

"If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment"

 

 You also realize they wrote in the report that they realized that the steel dossier, aka the  pee pew document Was a known fraud. That was used to get the warrants. It’s going to get interesting 

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Also from the report:

"The presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ("Trump Campaign" or "Campaign") showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their otential to damage candidate Clinton".

In other words, the current president of the United States welcomed the interference of an foreign nation, a foreign nation generally seen as an enemy to the US, to help him win the election.

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2 minutes ago, rushmc said:

 Yep. And it’s got nothing to do with the accusation. It has everything to do with having evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. The president doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent. The prosecutor has to prove his guilty. But you guys don’t give a fuck about that 

 

This thing was written as a political document open shit up the way you’re seeing it. To give the rabid mouth foaming crap that Is needed to keep the fraud going. But in the end it’s not gonna matter.

 

No collusion. That’s for damn sure. No obstruction.

Right. So there is definite evidence that there was obstruction, but deemed not enough to get a conviction.

How do you see that as completely clearing someone? Never mind some one in the highest office possible.

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Just now, SkyDekker said:

Also from the report:

"The presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ("Trump Campaign" or "Campaign") showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their otential to damage candidate Clinton".

In other words, the current president of the United States welcomed the interference of an foreign nation, a foreign nation generally seen as an enemy to the US, to help him win the election.

Why Wouldn’t he.? The law states unless you helped gather those documents illegaly, learning about them is nothing wrong. But then you don’t care about that either. But we also know that Hillary paid for the PP document that was used for the fisa warrants which started this whole thing which was a bunch of bullshit from the beginning. You’re losing and you just can’t see it.  How long is it gonna take before you run out of straws?

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1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

Right. So there is definite evidence that there was obstruction, but deemed not enough to get a conviction.

How do you see that as completely clearing someone? Never mind some one in the highest office possible.

You don’t understand at this point the gravity of how this all started. But it’s going to be out soon enough I think

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4 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Right. So there is definite evidence that there was obstruction, but deemed not enough to get a conviction.

How do you see that as completely clearing someone? Never mind some one in the highest office possible.

 Not really. That is just your weird spin on things 

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2 minutes ago, rushmc said:

Why Wouldn’t he.? The law states unless you helped gather those documents illegaly, learning about them is nothing wrong. But then you don’t care about that either. But we also know that Hillary paid for the PP document that was used for the fisa warrants which started this whole thing which was a bunch of bullshit from the beginning. You’re losing and you just can’t see it.  How long is it gonna take before you run out of straws?

I guess I would expect some integrity to not welcome help from an enemy nation to get myself elected.

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1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

I guess I would expect some integrity to not welcome help from an enemy nation to get myself elected.

 Now there’s some spin! At least from the report we know there is absolutely no collusion between Trump, anybody on the Trump team, and any American citizen to do that. Yet you’re going to pull that out of your butt and say it’s still real? Come on you’re better than that! 

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Just now, rushmc said:

 Not really. That is just your weird spin on things 

That's not weird spin, that is what the report says. It is pretty logical to assume that if there was absolutely no evidence of obstruction, the report would have clearly stated the President did not commit obstruction of justice.

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Just now, rushmc said:

 Now there’s some spin! At least from the report we know there is absolutely no collusion between Trump, anybody on the Trump team, and any American citizen to do that. Yet you’re going to pull that out of your butt and say it’s still real? Come on you’re better than that! 

The report clearly states the Trump campaign welcomed the release of information fraudulently obtained by an enemy nation to help Trump win the election.

I gave you the exact quote above. It is right from the report.

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Just now, SkyDekker said:

That's not weird spin, that is what the report says. It is pretty logical to assume that if there was absolutely no evidence of obstruction, the report would have clearly stated the President did not commit obstruction of justice.

You’re mixing shit up my friend. The part about collusion was incredibly clear. Now the part about obstruction is the bullshit that the Democrats, and you as you’re committed follower are grabbing onto to try to save face. You better get different news sources because you’re looking silly.

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3 minutes ago, rushmc said:

You’re mixing shit up my friend. The part about collusion was incredibly clear. Now the part about obstruction is the bullshit that the Democrats, and you as you’re committed follower are grabbing onto to try to save face. You better get different news sources because you’re looking silly.

Nope.

This isn't from a news source, this is from the actual report. The quotes are from the actual report.

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4 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Nope.

This isn't from a news source, this is from the actual report. The quotes are from the actual report.

 As are mine sir. All that aside, I hope they keep pushing this shit. It’s going to make for a great election in 2020 

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6 hours ago, rushmc said:

 Yes. And the Mueller report blew out of the water any idea that anything that they did was illegal or against the public good. 

Umm, apparently it said Mueller considered charging Jr and Kushner but couldn't be certain of proving their guilt in court. It also proves Trump dictated a statement which lied to the public about the meeting, then lied to the public about dictating the statement.

 

If this was Hillary, your head would have exploded by now. Literally, the sheer outrage would have killed you.

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Just now, jakee said:

Umm, apparently it said Mueller considered charging Jr and Kushner but couldn't be certain of proving their guilt in court. It also proves Trump dictated a statement which lied to the public about the meeting, then lied to the public about dictating the statement.

 

If this was Hillary, your head would have exploded by now. Literally, the sheer outrage would have killed you.

 I don’t think you have any idea of the irony of what you just posted! 

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1 minute ago, jakee said:

Umm, apparently it said Mueller considered charging Jr and Kushner but couldn't be certain of proving their guilt in court. It also proves Trump dictated a statement which lied to the public about the meeting, then lied to the public about dictating the statement.

 

If this was Hillary, your head would have exploded by now. Literally, the sheer outrage would have killed you.

 I spent too much time with you. People who are more thoughtful have chosen not to post at this time because they realize the gravity of the Mueller report. Obviously you don’t. 

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41 minutes ago, rushmc said:

 Yep. And it’s got nothing to do with the accusation. It has everything to do with having evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. The president doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent. The prosecutor has to prove his guilty. But you guys don’t give a fuck about that 

No prosecutor ever proved that Hillary did anything wrong. Did you ever give a fuck about that?

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