billvon 2,400 #1 February 16, 2017 As Trump fans the flames of racial and religious division, hate groups are growing at record rates. ==================================== 'A resurgence of white nationalism': Hate groups spiked in 2016 By Sara Ganim Wed February 15, 2017 Story highlights . . . . The number of anti-Muslim hate groups tripled from 34 to 101. . . . . (CNN) Across the country, flyers are showing up on college campuses. Some promote blatant neo-Nazi rhetoric, others are much more subtle. "Protect your heritage." "Let's become great again." "Our future belongs to us." "White people, do something." "Serve your people." They represent a less extreme white supremacist movement targeting the young and educated. "They're racist, but they have fancy new packaging," said Brian Levin, director for the Center of Hate and Extremism at Cal State San Bernardino. "They learn to downplay the swastikas and get a thesaurus, so instead of white supremacy they use words like identitarian. It's just a repackaged version of white nationalism." On Wednesday, the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based organization that monitors hate crimes across the country, released its annual report on extremism in America. The report says the number of groups across the country increased in 2016 to 917, up from 892 in 2015. In 2011, SPLC recorded 1,018 active organizations, the highest tally it found in more than 30 years of tracking hate groups. That number had fallen to 784 in 2014. The largest jump last year occurred in the number of anti-Muslim hate groups, which tripled from 34 in 2015 to 101. The report singled out Donald Trump's pledge to bar Muslims from entering the country, his harsh language around immigration from Mexico, his appearance on conspiracy-theorist Alex Jones's radio program, and his engagement with white nationalists on Twitter as key moments that encouraged extremist groups during the campaign. "Trump's run for office electrifed the radical right, which saw in him a champion of the idea that America is fundamentally a white man's country," wrote Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the SPLC. "Several new and energetic groups appeared last year that were almost entirely focused on Trump and seemed to live off his candidacy." "The country saw a resurgence of white nationalism that imperils the racial progress we've made, along with the rise of a president whose policies reflect the values of white nationalists," Potok noted. The White House did not respond to request for comment. ============== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #2 February 16, 2017 billvon As Trump fans the flames of racial and religious division, hate groups are growing at record rates. ==================================== 'A resurgence of white nationalism': Hate groups spiked in 2016 Not quite. According to SPLC figures, the total number of hate groups only increase by 25 in 2016, 13 of which were black separatist groups, while groups like the KKK dropped by 60 that same year. The largest increase in recent years was 108 in 2014-2015, 67 of which were black separatist groups. To be fair, there was also an increase of 118 KKK groups, but if the the total number of all hate groups only increased by 108, it would suggest a decline in other white nationalist groups. billvonThe largest jump last year occurred in the number of anti-Muslim hate groups, which tripled from 34 in 2015 to 101. Right, but if the total number of hate groups only increased by 25 for that year, and black separatist groups continue to rise, it would suggest a decrease in other white nationalist groups. As I already pointed out, the KKK decreased by 60 groups that same year. They most likely just moved on to anti-muslim groups like ACT for America and soldiers of Odin. Same douche bags, different name. So this "increase" probably isn't as alarming as some hope it to be. https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/black-separatist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #3 February 16, 2017 You dare question CNN?!??!? Don't you realize that in Speaker's Corner CNN is the Messiah!!! Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #4 February 16, 2017 BIGUN You dare question CNN?!??!? Don't you realize that in Speaker's Corner CNN is the Messiah!!! CNN likes to stir the post continuously to create "Breaking News". It likes to quote its own reporters. Which is bad journalism. But it generally doesn't report false facts. It does exaggerate new news a little but will correct itself after a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #5 February 17, 2017 Try a bit of this one for "white nationalism". https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/848603091944254/Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #6 February 17, 2017 Does the preference and appreciation of our culture over other cultures that are demonstrably less tolerant, more misogynistic, homophobic, racist and violent make us bad somehow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #7 February 17, 2017 brenthutchDoes the preference and appreciation of our culture over other cultures that are demonstrably less tolerant, more misogynistic, homophobic, racist and violent make us bad somehow? I like liberal democracies. I'm not sure there are any non majority white liberal democracies in the world today.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #8 February 17, 2017 brenthutchDoes the preference and appreciation of our culture over other cultures that are demonstrably less tolerant, more misogynistic, homophobic, racist and violent make us bad somehow? Usually one tries to rank itself from #1, rather than from the bottom of any list. Since the US is primarily a nation of immigrants subsequent to the founding native Indians settling after the ice age. What are the definitions of culture to which you refer? Please identify those positive cultural attributes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #9 February 17, 2017 >Does the preference and appreciation of our culture over other cultures that are >demonstrably less tolerant, more misogynistic, homophobic, racist and violent make >us bad somehow? Nope. But making the assumption that everyone who looks like X (black, Arab, Muslim, Jewish) is equally racist, violent, homophobic, greedy, stupid etc does make one "bad." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #10 February 17, 2017 brenthutchDoes the preference and appreciation of our culture over other cultures that are demonstrably less tolerant, more misogynistic, homophobic, racist and violent make us bad somehow? Funny how every white supremacist describes themselves likes that. I am curious how you can demonstrate another culture is less tolerant than yours? This view tends to be a unifying belief held by the uneducated and lower class of almost all cultures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #11 February 17, 2017 skinnay***Does the preference and appreciation of our culture over other cultures that are demonstrably less tolerant, more misogynistic, homophobic, racist and violent make us bad somehow? Funny how every white supremacist describes themselves likes that. I am curious how you can demonstrate another culture is less tolerant than yours? Try asking a gay Jew in Saudi Arabia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #13 February 17, 2017 Try asking a gay Jew in Arkansas. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #14 February 17, 2017 10,000+ Jews in Arkansas 2% (about) identity as gay You do the math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #15 February 17, 2017 Milos Yiannopoulos doesn't report, he paints word and film pictures. Kind of like Michael Moore. In a sufficiently populated world, you can find people who profess, say, or support, just about anything. Especially if you go looking. All it takes anymore is looking on FB for inflammatory comments. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #16 February 17, 2017 billvon>Nope. But making the assumption that everyone who looks like X (black, Arab, Muslim, Jewish, white, european, christian, Asian, rural, liberal, conservative, rich, poor, Arkansan, "white American", etc etc ) is equally racist, violent, homophobic, greedy, stupid etc does make one "bad." them too? or only just the PC list of the current moment counts? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #17 February 17, 2017 Quote10,000+ Jews in Arkansas 2% (about) identity as gay You do the math. What math? Obviously my point is that "white American culture" isn't nearly as great as you like to think. Sure, it is better that the predominant culture in much of the Middle East, but that's not a really high bar. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #18 February 17, 2017 You are right! American culture is just awful, it is full of misogyny, xenophobia, racism, homophobia, and backward thinking. We are the worst! Why can't we be more like Zimbabwe or Cuba or Venezuela or Honduras or China or Russia or Pakistan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #19 February 17, 2017 >them too? Yes, them too. They are all currently on the "PC list." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 February 17, 2017 billvon>them too? Yes, them too. They are all currently on the "PC list." I agree. Oh man - if we acknowledge that, neither political party will have anyone to make into a "them". Sucks for politics ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #21 February 17, 2017 wmw999Milos Yiannopoulos doesn't report, he paints word and film pictures. Kind of like Michael Moore. In a sufficiently populated world, you can find people who profess, say, or support, just about anything. Especially if you go looking. All it takes anymore is looking on FB for inflammatory comments. Wendy P. For those who may have missed it: For tonight's episode of "Realtime with Bill Maher", journalist Jeremy Scahill has pulled out because he learned Yiannopoulos was going to be on it: http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/milo-yiannopoulos-bill-maher-jeremy-scahill-hbo-1201989697/ http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill-maher Current guest line up: Milo Yiannopoulos Larry Wilmore (comedian) Jack Kingston (former Georgia Rep - GOP) Malcolm Nance (USN ret, terrorism expert) Leah Remini (actress, ex-Scientologist)"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #22 February 17, 2017 Please point out where I said any of that. Or are you just trolling like as usual? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #23 February 17, 2017 wmw999Milos Yiannopoulos doesn't report, he paints word and film pictures. Kind of like Michael Moore. Perhaps you can point out to me the violent protests by the right when Mr. Moore did his movies. In a sufficiently populated world, you can find people who profess, say, or support, just about anything. Especially if you go looking. Are you saying we should ignore what we see? Are you good with that type of thing? I know you aren't. That particular clip has a banner that says "Recent Left Wing Violence". How is that inflammatory? Protesting is great. It's part of being a citizen. What the right sees is not a protest...it's rioting. It's an attempt to circumvent the First Amendment. Don't like Moore? Don't go to see him. Don't like Milo? Don't go to see him. Ignore both. Protest long and hard. But don't destroy property and assault people. The message is lost when that happens. All it takes anymore is looking on FB for inflammatory comments. Wendy P.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #24 February 17, 2017 DanGPlease point out where I said any of that. Or are you just trolling like as usual? "Obviously my point is that "white American culture" isn't nearly as great as you like to think." DanG Where did I say white American culture is so great? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #25 February 17, 2017 Quote"Obviously my point is that "white American culture" isn't nearly as great as you like to think." DanG He was referring to: "American culture is just awful, it is full of misogyny, xenophobia, racism, homophobia, and backward thinking. We are the worst! Why can't we be more like Zimbabwe or Cuba or Venezuela or Honduras or China or Russia or Pakistan." He never said any of that, nor does that follow from what he said above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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