Putin is a Killer,Do You Think Our Country is so Innocent?

[Phil1111 911]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdkpKm_xsA

Rhetorical or statement.

[Phil1111 911]

From RT (Russian Television)
"It is not the first time that Trump has made such comments when journalists question his stance regarding the Russian leader.

At the end of 2015, the host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe told Trump that Putin “kills journalists,” to which the unfazed then-presidential candidate replied, “I think that our country does plenty of killing, too, Joe.”

“I’ve always felt fine about Putin. He’s a strong leader. He’s a powerful leader,” Trump added."

From RT (Russian Television) SEE THE FULL RT STORY WITH A GREAT picture of trump.VVVVVVVVVVVV
https://www.rt.com/usa/376357-trump-putin-interview-killer/

From The Guardian
"According to the Committee to Project Journalists, 36 journalists have been murdered in Russia since 1992, 23 since Putin first became president in 2000. Most famously Anna Politkovskaya was shot dead in 2006 while investigating torture in Chechnya...

Trump answered: “Well, I think that our country does plenty of killing, too, Joe.”

The same week, Trump told ABC News: “In all fairness to Putin, you’re saying he killed people. I haven’t seen that. I don’t know that he has.”

He added: “If he has killed reporters I think that’s terrible. But this isn’t like somebody that’s stood with a gun and he’s taken the blame or he’s admitted that he’s killed. He’s always denied it.

“It’s never been proven that he’s killed anybody, so you know you’re supposed to be innocent until proven guilty at least in our country he has not been proven that he’s killed reporters.”...

Critics of Trump have often raised the subject of Putin’s murderousness. The Arizona senator John McCain, a fierce opponent of lifting sanctions on Russia, a prospect with which Trump has flirted, has said the Russian president is “a murderer and a thug”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian
"The Guardian is a British national daily newspaper,...The newspaper's online edition was the fifth most widely read in the world in October 2014, with over 42.6 million readers

The Herald Sun Australian newspaper
"President Trump excuses Putin’s murderous reputation: ‘What do you think? Our country’s so innocent?’
Trump’s comment comes after news broke that a major critic of President Putin has been hospitalised with ‘multiple organ failure’. Vladimir Kara-Murza had previously claimed to be poisoned in 2015.

“None of the medical staff can explain the reason for his current condition. Both last time and once again now,” his lawyer said in a statement.

Kara-Murza is an anti-Putin activist calling for free and open elections.

It follows the high-profile killing of defecting sply Alexander Litvinenko who died from radiation poisoning in London in 2006."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/trump-and-the-us-legal-system-now-face-an-epic-showdown-over-executive-order-banning-refugees/news-story/d89eb4e30901272bfaa0b47b9a53aeb5

South China Morning Post....... front page
Trump defends Putin, says US has ‘got a lot of killers’ too

US President Donald Trump has long been effusive in his praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin, despite criticism from Republicans and Democrats alike"
[/url]http://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2068197/trump-defends-putin-says-us-has-got-lot-killers-too
Abe will strain to be on his best behavior. But ostentatious gifts, such as the golf club Abe presented to Trump in New York, are unlikely to be in the prime minister’s suitcase before he departs...

more on social media outbursts from a president who uses undiplomatic language and emoji to express his pleasure, or displeasure, with the leadership of other countries.

“Don’t anger Trump” has, therefore, become the guiding principle for the Feb. 10 meeting, with Japanese experts tending to agree that Japan doesn’t really have any other option at this point than to work hard to ensure a strong bilateral relationship remains a top priority for the president. To accomplish this, Japan simply has to find common areas of agreement (such as the need for a tough stance against China, although what Abe will say to the president about threats from Trump adviser Steve Bannon about going to war in the South China Sea remains to be seen)...

“But those attitudes are extremely short-sighted and not very smart, Treuting said. “Trump will go down in flames. It’s just a question of when,”

Treuting also said Trump’s tough stance toward China is worrying Chinese and Taiwanese in Tokyo who wonder what it means on a business and personal level as well as a geopolitical level.

In addition, there is the question of what happens to Japanese attitudes toward Americans in Japan and American attitudes toward Japanese in the U.S. if Trump’s rhetoric escalates. While the kind of anti-Japanese, “yellow peril” rhetoric in the United States that was heard three decades ago during often intense battles over trade issues is, so far, absent, Trump’s presidency could embolden all manner of racist remarks from those who feel they can now get away with doing so publicly, creating unease and fear among Japanese in the United States.

And as for Americans in Japan, Treuting said that if Trump’s Japan rhetoric is childish and insulting, it could embolden the right wing further as public sympathy for the U.S. erodes.

In addition, there is the question of what happens to Japanese attitudes toward Americans in Japan and American attitudes toward Japanese in the U.S. if Trump’s rhetoric escalates. While the kind of anti-Japanese, “yellow peril” rhetoric in the United States that was heard three decades ago during often intense battles over trade issues is, so far, absent, Trump’s presidency could embolden all manner of racist remarks from those who feel they can now get away with doing so publicly, creating unease and fear among Japanese in the United States.'
[url]http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/02/04/national/politics-diplomacy/trump-card-japan-casts-wary-eye-future-new-u-s-president/#.WJcl5X88Z0w">

"When Prime Minister Shinzo Abe travels to Washington this week to meet U.S. President Donald Trump, it will take place in a very different atmosphere than the friendly, but hastily arranged, chat between Abe and the president-elect in November, just after he shocked Japan’s leadership — and the world — by winning the election.

Abe will strain to be on his best behavior. But ostentatious gifts, such as the golf club Abe presented to Trump in New York, are unlikely to be in the prime minister’s suitcase before he departs...

more on social media outbursts from a president who uses undiplomatic language and emoji to express his pleasure, or displeasure, with the leadership of other countries.

“Don’t anger Trump” has, therefore, become the guiding principle for the Feb. 10 meeting, with Japanese experts tending to agree that Japan doesn’t really have any other option at this point than to work hard to ensure a strong bilateral relationship remains a top priority for the president. To accomplish this, Japan simply has to find common areas of agreement (such as the need for a tough stance against China, although what Abe will say to the president about threats from Trump adviser Steve Bannon about going to war in the South China Sea remains to be seen)...

“But those attitudes are extremely short-sighted and not very smart, Treuting said. “Trump will go down in flames. It’s just a question of when,”

Treuting also said Trump’s tough stance toward China is worrying Chinese and Taiwanese in Tokyo who wonder what it means on a business and personal level as well as a geopolitical level.

In addition, there is the question of what happens to Japanese attitudes toward Americans in Japan and American attitudes toward Japanese in the U.S. if Trump’s rhetoric escalates. While the kind of anti-Japanese, “yellow peril” rhetoric in the United States that was heard three decades ago during often intense battles over trade issues is, so far, absent, Trump’s presidency could embolden all manner of racist remarks from those who feel they can now get away with doing so publicly, creating unease and fear among Japanese in the United States.

And as for Americans in Japan, Treuting said that if Trump’s Japan rhetoric is childish and insulting, it could embolden the right wing further as public sympathy for the U.S. erodes.

In addition, there is the question of what happens to Japanese attitudes toward Americans in Japan and American attitudes toward Japanese in the U.S. if Trump’s rhetoric escalates. While the kind of anti-Japanese, “yellow peril” rhetoric in the United States that was heard three decades ago during often intense battles over trade issues is, so far, absent, Trump’s presidency could embolden all manner of racist remarks from those who feel they can now get away with doing so publicly, creating unease and fear among Japanese in the United States.'
[url]http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/02/04/national/politics-diplomacy/trump-card-japan-casts-wary-eye-future-new-u-s-president/#.WJcl5X88Z0w

The Japan Times is Japan's largest English-language newspaper. It is published by The Japan Times,The Japan Times was launched by Motosada Zumoto on March 22, 1897, with the goal of giving Japanese an opportunity to read and discuss news and current events in English to help Japan to participate in the international community.[4]

"In addition, there is the question of what happens to Japanese attitudes toward Americans in Japan and American attitudes toward Japanese in the U.S. if Trump’s rhetoric escalates. While the kind of anti-Japanese, “yellow peril” rhetoric in the United States that was heard three decades ago during often intense battles over trade issues is, so far, absent, Trump’s presidency could embolden all manner of racist remarks from those who feel they can now get away with doing so publicly, creating unease and fear among Japanese in the United States.

And as for Americans in Japan, Treuting said that if Trump’s Japan rhetoric is childish and insulting, it could embolden the right wing further as public sympathy for the U.S. erodes."

[gowlerk 1,914]

But Putin's Russia is not in the habit of killing Americans. That's all that matters now. America First ©.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[DanG 1]

Can you imagine the GOP's reaction if Obama had said the same thing?

- Dan G

[Stumpy 256]

DanG

Can you imagine the GOP's reaction if Obama had said the same thing?

This goes for pretty much every single thing he has said and done in the last 2 weeks.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[wolfriverjoe 1,341]

Putin's also a thief.

Seriously.

He stole one of Robert Kraft's Superbowl rings, claimed it was "given" to him and has refused to return it.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[ryoder 1,384]

wolfriverjoe

Putin's also a thief.

Seriously.

He stole one of Robert Kraft's Superbowl rings, claimed it was "given" to him and has refused to return it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-kraft-putin-super-bowl-ring_us_5897a1b0e4b09bd304bbd5cf

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rehmwa 2]

"(something something terrible) do you think America is so innocent?"

I thought liberals loved talk like this.

it's so confusing lately - everybody is flipping

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Phil1111 911]

ryoder

***Putin's also a thief.

Seriously.

He stole one of Robert Kraft's Superbowl rings, claimed it was "given" to him and has refused to return it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-kraft-putin-super-bowl-ring_us_5897a1b0e4b09bd304bbd5cf

If I was Kraft I would keep my mouth shut, collect the new one and move on. Surely he knows who he is dealing with. He could end up stuffed into a "diplomatic bag" on a one way Aeroflot flight to visit the "Leader".

and now:

Kremlin angry over Fox News 'Putin's a killer' question

The Kremlin has demanded an apology from Fox News over "unacceptable and offensive" comments about Vladimir Putin made by presenter Bill O'Reilly.

Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that an apology from the "respected television company" should be sent."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38882915

Could this be the end of FOX news. Could the Kremlin send the FSB after FOX?

[Royreader8812 0]

Lol people losing their shit over the insinuation that the USA have killed people, is quite telling of their intellect.

His reply is hardly an endorsement. It is condemnation of both parties, and that is a breath of fresh air.

[ryoder 1,384]

Phil1111

Kremlin angry over Fox News 'Putin's a killer' question

The Kremlin has demanded an apology from Fox News over "unacceptable and offensive" comments about Vladimir Putin made by presenter Bill O'Reilly.

Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that an apology from the "respected television company" should be sent."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38882915

Could this be the end of FOX news. Could the Kremlin send the FSB after FOX?

I find myself feeling proud of Bill O'Reilly.
I feel so dirty now.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[winsor 186]

Royreader8812

Lol people losing their shit over the insinuation that the USA have killed people, is quite telling of their intellect.

His reply is hardly an endorsement. It is condemnation of both parties, and that is a breath of fresh air.

The United States does NOT kill people!

Displeasing us is just another way of saying that one does not wish to live. As a matter of courtesy, we will arrange for Assisted Suicide, which is the civilized thing to do.

[normiss 622]

I'm curious to know which presidents have poisoned those they disagree with and also which presidents have had reporters murdered.
I'll wait, I have plenty of beer.

[gowlerk 1,914]

normiss

I'm curious to know which presidents have poisoned those they disagree with and also which presidents have had reporters murdered.
I'll wait, I have plenty of beer.

That would be the same as the number who have become multi billionaires during their time in office.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Phil1111 911]

winsor

***Lol people losing their shit over the insinuation that the USA have killed people, is quite telling of their intellect.

His reply is hardly an endorsement. It is condemnation of both parties, and that is a breath of fresh air.

The United States does NOT kill people!

Displeasing us is just another way of saying that one does not wish to live. As a matter of courtesy, we will arrange for Assisted Suicide, which is the civilized thing to do.

I would probably re-frame that to say the US doesn't kill opposition leaders of the US. Doesn't intentionally target civilians. Has not tried to set up an imperial hegemony state through invasion. Doesn't manipulate other states through invasion, subversion, to become subservient to the US. US politicians don't steal and corrupt the state as much as the Putin government does. Although with trump in power that might change.

"Republicans Whine About Trump’s Putin Love, Do Nothing Else
They huffed, and they puffed, but didn't do anything other than lightly chastise the president after he slandered the U.S...

The Republican Party is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Donald J. Trump, and party leaders of course are largely falling in line. (Playing the “what if President Obama did this” game is a useless exercise at this point.)

Vice President Mike Pence hit the Sunday show circuit this weekend to assure people that Trump was “not in the least” drawing a moral equivalence and, as Pence said on NBC’s Meet the Press, that “President Trump has been critical of American policy in the past…[and will] continue to be candid with the American people.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told CNN’s Jake Tapper that “I’m not going to critique every utterance of the president” even though “I obviously don’t see this issue the same way he does.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/05/republicans-whine-about-trump-s-putin-love-do-nothing-else.html

"Republicans concerned, Russians pleased with Trump’s moral relativism on state-sanctioned killing

In Moscow, the reaction has been more critical of O'Reilly. A Kremlin spokesman asked for an apology from Fox.

But there’s enthusiasm in Russia for Trump’s view, says David Filipov, Moscow bureau chief for the Washington Post, who’s currently visiting Boston and stopped by our studios.

“Really, what Donald Trump said is music to everyone’s ears over there. The idea that America is somehow morally superior has never sat well in Russia. Not just among the Kremlin.”

“The idea that Donald Trump is setting the groundwork for the idea that we’re just another country, just like you, [is popular]," says Filipov. “Let’s do business as countries rather than as though we’re teaching you how to be morally superior.”

“The way that people, politicians, analysts, see it is Trump is a pragmatist,” adds Filipov, describing Russian views. “He realizes the bankruptcy of the idea of a unipolar world, where the United States reigns over all, teaching everyone democracy. He’s seen that it all has failed, and he’s going to start a new pragmatic approach, and part of that is stepping down from the high horse and talking to Russia as an equal.”

“One thing he is doing,” cautions Filipov, “he’s preparing us for the idea that he’s going to be morally relativistic, as opposed to morally superior.”

O’Reilly gave no attribution for his Putin-as-killer claim. Putin has never been charged in connection with any of the violent deaths of his opponents. The closest anyone has come was a British judge in early 2016, who ruled on the 2006 killing of Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko in London. He found that Litvinenko was poisoned by Russian agents, acting on orders from Moscow, and that the act was “probably” ordered by Putin himself.

“I think that every Russian who thinks that Putin is a killer, probably believes that all other state leaders are killers, regardless of what they think about what Putin may or may not have ordered," Filipov says.

Filipov suggested his own formulation of a question to President Trump:

“I’m not going to accuse Putin of political murders, because I haven’t got anywhere near that kind of evidence. But I can say, and anyone can say that in the interests of maintaining the stability of Russia, in defense of what Russia considers the onslaught of Western liberalism, Putin has shaved away most of the trappings of a rule-of-law state; and you Donald Trump, President of the United States, do you intend to do the same thing here and is that what you’re preparing us for, with all of these decrees, and all of this talk about moral relativism?”
[/url]https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-02-06/republicans-concerned-russians-pleased-trump-s-moral-relativism-state-sanctioned
"The dangers to journalists in Russia have been well known since the early 1990s but concern at the number of unsolved killings soared after Anna Politkovskaya's murder in Moscow on 7 October 2006. While international monitors spoke of several dozen deaths, some sources within Russia talked of over two hundred fatalities.[1] The evidence has since been examined and documented in two reports, published in Russian and English, by international organizations. These revealed a basic confusion in terminology that explained the seemingly enormous numerical discrepancy: statistics of premature death among journalists (from work accidents, crossfire incidents, and purely criminal or domestic cases of manslaughter) were repeatedly equated with the much smaller number of targeted (contract) killings or work-related murders. The Remembrance Day of Journalists Killed in the Line of Duty in Russia is observed on 15 December every year."
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia">

Public Radio International (PRI) is a Minneapolis-based American public radio organization, with locations in Boston, New York, London and Beijing.[citation needed] PRI is a media content creator and also distributes programs from many sources, competing with National Public Radio, American Public Media and the Public Radio Exchange to provide programming to public radio stations.[1]

PRI is the "managing partner" of American Public Radio, which provides satellite radio programing via Sirius XM Radio. APR is composed of PRI, Chicago Public Radio, WGBH in Boston, and WNYC in New York City.[2]

"The dangers to journalists in Russia have been well known since the early 1990s but concern at the number of unsolved killings soared after Anna Politkovskaya's murder in Moscow on 7 October 2006. While international monitors spoke of several dozen deaths, some sources within Russia talked of over two hundred fatalities.[1] The evidence has since been examined and documented in two reports, published in Russian and English, by international organizations. These revealed a basic confusion in terminology that explained the seemingly enormous numerical discrepancy: statistics of premature death among journalists (from work accidents, crossfire incidents, and purely criminal or domestic cases of manslaughter) were repeatedly equated with the much smaller number of targeted (contract) killings or work-related murders. The Remembrance Day of Journalists Killed in the Line of Duty in Russia is observed on 15 December every year."
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

"Many different explanations have been given for the Russian apartment bombings.

The Russian apartment bombings were a series of explosions that hit apartment blocks in the Russian cities of Buynaksk, Moscow and Volgodonsk in September 1999, killing nearly 300 people and spreading a wave of fear across the country. The bombings were blamed by the Russian government on rebels from the North Caucasus region and together with the Dagestan War, that took place in August 1999, lead to the military invasion of the separatist Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. The militants as well as the secessionist Chechen authorities denied their involvement in the bombing campaign.

State Duma deputies Sergei Kovalev, Yuri Shchekochikhin and Sergei Yushenkov, cast doubts on the official version and sought an independent investigation. Anti-Kremlin oligarch Boris Berezovsky (and his close associates Yury Felshtinsky and Alexander Litvinenko), David Satter, Boris Kagarlitsky, Vladimir Pribylovsky, Anna Politkovskaya, as well as the secessionist Chechen authorities and former popular Russian politician Alexander Lebed, claimed that the 1999 bombings were a false flag attack coordinated by the FSB in order to win public support for a new full-scale war in Chechnya. The war boosted Prime Minister and former FSB Director Vladimir Putin's popularity, and brought the pro-war Unity Party to the State Duma within a few months."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanation_attempts_for_the_Russian_apartment_bombings

[jclalor 12]

DanG

Can you imagine the GOP's reaction if Obama had said the same thing?

Look at the reaction of the GOP over Obam's supposed "Apology tour". If Obama had recieved Russian help in his election, and then fawned over Putin's favorable attention, we would have had an armed civil war.