kallend 1,623 #76 June 28, 2016 brenthutch******>Now I know it doesn't say, "Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker." And yet you claimed that your post came from the CDC. Why did you lie? In what way did I lie? The first line from my post was: "Here are some key findings from the CDC report..." I did not say "here is the CDC report", you were kind enough to provide that. You ripped it off from another source without attribution. That is called "plagiarism" and is dishonest.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #77 June 28, 2016 kallend*********>Now I know it doesn't say, "Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker." And yet you claimed that your post came from the CDC. Why did you lie? In what way did I lie? The first line from my post was: "Here are some key findings from the CDC report..." I did not say "here is the CDC report", you were kind enough to provide that. You ripped it off from another source without attribution. That is called "plagiarism" and is dishonest. So if I provided a footnote, stating I got this from Facebook, you would be onboard? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #78 June 29, 2016 kallend*********>Now I know it doesn't say, "Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker." And yet you claimed that your post came from the CDC. Why did you lie? In what way did I lie? The first line from my post was: "Here are some key findings from the CDC report..." I did not say "here is the CDC report", you were kind enough to provide that. You ripped it off from another source without attribution. That is called "plagiarism" and is dishonest. "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you it means" http://youtu.be/wujVMIYzYXg pla·gia·rism noun the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. From the CDC report: Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups... Guns and Ammo The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #79 June 29, 2016 brenthutch************>Now I know it doesn't say, "Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker." And yet you claimed that your post came from the CDC. Why did you lie? In what way did I lie? The first line from my post was: "Here are some key findings from the CDC report..." I did not say "here is the CDC report", you were kind enough to provide that. You ripped it off from another source without attribution. That is called "plagiarism" and is dishonest. "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you it means" http://youtu.be/wujVMIYzYXg pla·gia·rism noun the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. From the CDC report: Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups... Guns and Ammo The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides... All you do is dig the hole deeper. A perfect example of Dunning-Kruger effect.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #80 June 29, 2016 What hole? Take time out from grading 19 year old's papers at your community college, and explain to me in granular detail (because I am just a slack jawed hayseed) the hole I am digging. Dunning-Kruger effect indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #81 June 29, 2016 >If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #82 June 29, 2016 billvon>If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. I got it from a Facebook post, I did not know it came from Guns and Ammo, that said, what difference does it make? G&A just parroted the Obama's CDC's report on gun violence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #83 June 29, 2016 brenthutch***>If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. I got it from a Facebook post, I did not know it came from Guns and Ammo, that said, what difference does it make? QED... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #84 June 29, 2016 Facebook. President Lincoln was correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #85 June 29, 2016 brenthutch What hole? Take time out from grading 19 year old's papers at your community college, and explain to me in granular detail (because I am just a slack jawed hayseed) the hole I am digging. Dunning-Kruger effect indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #86 June 29, 2016 billvon >If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. All of those posts and you have yet to address the CONTENT of the OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #87 June 29, 2016 brenthutch***>If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. I got it from a Facebook post, I did not know it came from Guns and Ammo, that said, what difference does it make? G&A just parroted the Obama's CDC's report on gun violence. So you got it from Facebook, never checked where it came from, never checked validity and then post it here as fact. No wonder you know better than scientists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #88 June 29, 2016 Would you care to comment in the CONTENT??? Didn't think so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #89 June 29, 2016 I'll comment on your OP. The subject line is misleading, there is nothing "shocking" in the CDC report. You are incorrect about the date of the report. The most notable and often overlooked fact you list there is that suicides account for the vast majority of gun deaths in America. Hand guns are made for killin' They ain't no good for nothin' else And if you like to drink your whiskey You might even shoot yourself (King-Van Zandt, 1975)Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #90 June 29, 2016 brenthutch ***What hole? Take time out from grading 19 year old's papers at your community college, and explain to me in granular detail (because I am just a slack jawed hayseed) the hole I am digging. Dunning-Kruger effect indeed. At least this time you are copying your own words and not someone else's. But it just reinforces the point.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #91 June 29, 2016 billvon>If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. Why is how the information so important. This seems like just a distraction from what you don't want to admit. So fucking what - it was a paraphrase - and yes, anyone with a brain can see the statements are not exactly identical, but they are both correct in spirit and meaning. Sorry you don't like the message - but it is what it is. Sorry you have to now try to find a way to discredit a government organization. Get over the stupid semantics of the issue and address the content of what the CDC actually did say.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #92 June 29, 2016 kallend ******What hole? Take time out from grading 19 year old's papers at your community college, and explain to me in granular detail (because I am just a slack jawed hayseed) the hole I am digging. Dunning-Kruger effect indeed. At least this time you are copying your own words and not someone else's. But it just reinforces the point. Jeebus - you all remind me of "That depends on what the meaning of 'Is' is." Group.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #93 June 29, 2016 brenthutchWould you care to comment in the CONTENT??? Didn't think so. Let me go find some "facts" on Facebook. Plus the content isn't shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #94 June 29, 2016 gowlerkI'll comment on your OP. The subject line is misleading, there is nothing "shocking" in the CDC report. You are incorrect about the date of the report. The most notable and often overlooked fact you list there is that suicides account for the vast majority of gun deaths in America. Hand guns are made for killin' They ain't no good for nothin' else And if you like to drink your whiskey You might even shoot yourself (King-Van Zandt, 1975) Gimme Back My Bullets Rossington/Van Zandt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #95 June 29, 2016 turtlespeed***>If anyone is guilty of plagiarism, it is Guns and Ammo. Why do you say that? Is it because you copied it from Guns and Ammo? If so, that's the first time you have admitted that. Congratulations for finally deciding to come clean after 78 posts. Better late than never I guess. Why is how the information so important. This seems like just a distraction from what you don't want to admit. So fucking what - it was a paraphrase - and yes, anyone with a brain can see the statements are not exactly identical, but they are both correct in spirit and meaning. Sorry you don't like the message - but it is what it is. Sorry you have to now try to find a way to discredit a government organization. Get over the stupid semantics of the issue and address the content of what the CDC actually did say. They can't process the information, their collective minds are blown and their panties are firmly bunched. They feel confused and betrayed, the CDC report was not supposed to come out that way. Kallend, per usual, has to resort to ad hominem attacks as he lacks the capacity to engage on an intellectual level, and BillV can't get beyond Guns and Ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #96 June 29, 2016 Let the music play, me don't want no more gun-play When the bodies hit the ground, there's nothing let to say ay ay Me don't want to see no more innocent blood shed Me don't want to see no more youth dead Come hear me now -Snoop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #97 June 29, 2016 QuoteThey can't process the information, Says the guy who gets his information from Facebook. Quotethe CDC report was not supposed to come out that way Funny stuff, considering it came out 3 years ago. Quotelacks the capacity to engage on an intellectual level Says the guy who wants to discuss a facebook post, regurgitating 3 year old information. But, since he just saw it on facebook recently, thinks it is new information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #98 June 29, 2016 Because.......Science Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #99 June 29, 2016 You misspelled 'ignorance'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #100 June 29, 2016 QuoteGimme Back My Bullets Rossington/Van Zandt That song is about regret, a little open to interpretation. But I interpret it as a wish that those bullets were never fired, that they were back in the chamber that they came from. It's certainly not a song about wanting more ammo. Edit to say I'm wrong. It's a song about their career being stalled, the bullets were chart posistion "with a bullet". But still, not about ammo. http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1704Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
