RonD1120 58 #1 May 13, 2016 Quote(CNN)The Obama administration will issue guidance on Friday directing public schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms matching their gender identity. A joint letter from the Departments of Education and Justice will go out to schools on Friday with guidelines to ensure that "transgender students enjoy a supportive and nondiscriminatory school environment," the Obama administration said on Thursday. http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/politics/transgender-bathrooms-obama-administration/ Buster McPantywaiste: Thank you mister president. Although I was born with male junk, I feel like a lesbian trapped in a male body. I feel uncomfortable in the showers with the boys. Now I can shower with my girlfriends. The logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #2 May 13, 2016 I don't think you understand what "logical progression" actually means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 May 13, 2016 RonD1120The logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? Indeed! WHAT THEN? Seriously? Who gives a fuck? Unless anyone hasn't noticed the Olympics mean very little. In fact, the ONLY time the Olympics has ever meant anything at all is when some oppressed group has risen to the occasion and shown themselves to be equal or better than their oppressors. http://www.olympic.org/jesse-owensquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #4 May 13, 2016 But, but, genitals! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #5 May 13, 2016 >The logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? Then people grow up and it is no longer an issue. We had coed bathrooms and showers at my dorm at college. It took most people a few weeks to adjust to it, then after that - no problems. We could always have separate bathrooms for people who cannot handle it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #6 May 13, 2016 QuoteBuster McPantywaiste There are arguments to be made on the legality of the administration's position.But your personal credibility went right out the door with your use of the stereotypical name. Once more your basic hatred of the other is showing.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #7 May 13, 2016 billvon>The logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? Then people grow up and it is no longer an issue. We had coed bathrooms and showers at my dorm at college. It took most people a few weeks to adjust to it, then after that - no problems. We could always have separate bathrooms for people who cannot handle it. The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #8 May 13, 2016 RonD1120***>The logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? Then people grow up and it is no longer an issue. We had coed bathrooms and showers at my dorm at college. It took most people a few weeks to adjust to it, then after that - no problems. We could always have separate bathrooms for people who cannot handle it. The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? They would probably feel an urge to pee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #9 May 13, 2016 RonD1120The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? Why are your wife, daughter, or grand-daughter doing crotch grabs on strangers to check? Before you say they aren't. HOW ELSE WOULD THEY KNOW?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #10 May 13, 2016 So what's new? You hate me and what I stand for. I'm OK with that. PA is all you got.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #11 May 13, 2016 I do hate some of what you stand for. I can't bring myself to hate you.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #12 May 13, 2016 quade***The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? Why are your wife, daughter, or grand-daughter doing crotch grabs on strangers to check? Before you say they aren't. HOW ELSE WOULD THEY KNOW? They way all this going, a male only has to say he feels like a female. He doesn't have to wear women's clothes.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #13 May 13, 2016 QuoteThey way all this going, a male only has to say he feels like a female. He doesn't have to wear women's clothes. And then what? My wife will go in a stall and pee, the man will go in a stall and pee. Then they come out of their stalls, wash their hands and go on with their life. Somebody may even fart. Clearly this is a huge problem and lots of tax dollars should be spent on avoiding this disaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVCHUTERS 1 #14 May 13, 2016 I've never weighed in on speaker's corner but I can answer that, as a wife, daughter, granddaughter. Wouldn't bother me ONE BIT. In my 20's we used to go to this gay-friendly (didn't have many of them 20 years ago) bar a lot. They had co-ed bathrooms downstairs, without even doors on the stalls *gasp* Used that one cause the ladies' room always had a huge line up. Never ONCE was I leered at, assaulted, etc. In fact, a transgender lady offered me her spare skirt one time when my pants got ruined by a jello wresting match (that's a story for another day though...). She was a nice lady. And had ZERO interest in my lady parts FFS. Seriously. People just want to take a pee and get out. I don't understand this whole bathroom thing. Not one bit. Fear makes people ugly. And America, with all due respect, has bigger issues to worry about than who is taking a pee in what room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #16 May 13, 2016 >The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel >if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? I'll ask you the same question. Let's say your granddaughter, who is a bit afraid of using public restrooms, finally overcomes her fears and goes into the women's room by herself. Behind you, you hear this guy (in the attached picture) cursing because he's late for something. He rushes towards the bathrooms. Which bathroom do you want him to use? The one your granddaughter is in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 78 #17 May 13, 2016 RonD1120The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? Serious question, would you have a problem if this man walked into the ladies room after your wife or daughter or any other female relative?Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #18 May 13, 2016 QuoteThe logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? The Olympics won't be effected very much. A MTF transgender person on HRT will be losing muscle mass and the MTF person will be losing any advantage they may have had prior to going on HRT. Now in the cases of FTM, the HRT treatments will increase the muscle mass, but will that be enough to compete with the genetic males? In most cases the answer is likely no, it won't be enough. But you never know. Now the cases of females on steroids but with the intent to stay female? LOL well those of old enough to remember how dominant the 1976 Women's East German Swim Team was will know something is fishy. But this is a completely different can of worms. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,341 #19 May 13, 2016 ILUVCHUTERS I don't understand this whole bathroom thing. Not one bit. Fear makes people ugly. And America, with all due respect, has bigger issues to worry about than who is taking a pee in what room. I think you understand it perfectly well. It has nothing to do with bathrooms. It has everything to do with fear and hatred. Not terribly surprising that those who have most often and most clearly shown their hatred and fear of anyone who is "different" are the ones coming out strongest in favor of this ("those" meaning both on here and out in the real world)."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #20 May 13, 2016 CanuckInUSAQuoteThe logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? The Olympics won't be effected very much. A MTF transgender person on HRT will be losing muscle mass and the MTF person will be losing any advantage they may have had prior to going on HRT. Now in the cases of FTM, the HRT treatments will increase the muscle mass, but will that be enough to compete with the genetic males? In most cases the answer is likely no, it won't be enough. But you never know. Now the cases of females on steroids but with the intent to stay female? LOL well those of old enough to remember how dominant the 1976 Women's East German Swim Team was will know something is fishy. But this is a completely different can of worms. Sports gender verification tests are not easy, nor particularly straightforward and include testing by multiple medical specialties. They can also be quite time consuming. Google Caster Semenya as an example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVCHUTERS 1 #21 May 13, 2016 Good point. I guess I should clarify in that I don't understand the fear of who uses what bathroom and the absolutely horrifying things that apparently happen in American bathrooms (here in Canada we just go pee/poop, wash hands, apply lipstick if necessary) and leave. Could give a rat's ass about who's in the stall next to me frankly. And the hatred. I don't understand that either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #22 May 13, 2016 quade***The logical progression of this issue will take it to the Olympics. What then? Indeed! WHAT THEN? Seriously? Who gives a fuck? Unless anyone hasn't noticed the Olympics mean very little. In fact, the ONLY time the Olympics has ever meant anything at all is when some oppressed group has risen to the occasion and shown themselves to be equal or better than their oppressors. http://www.olympic.org/jesse-owens The Olympics are very important indeed, and have much to do with giving a fuck, as you so tastefully put it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #23 May 13, 2016 billvon>The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel >if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? I'll ask you the same question. Let's say your granddaughter, who is a bit afraid of using public restrooms, finally overcomes her fears and goes into the women's room by herself. Behind you, you hear this guy (in the attached picture) cursing because he's late for something. He rushes towards the bathrooms. Which bathroom do you want him to use? The one your granddaughter is in? The Men's room. No.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #24 May 13, 2016 okalb***The question my wife and I ask is, how would your wife, daughter, granddaughter feel if they walked into a restroom and a man walked in behind them? Serious question, would you have a problem if this man walked into the ladies room after your wife or daughter or any other female relative? Looks like a set up. I suppose this person is a female on testosterone. Right? I am still leaning toward Men, Women, Other.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #25 May 13, 2016 Why would a woman go to a bar in the first place? Usually, they are looking to hook up with some strange. Once strange has been accepted, all strange is the same.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites