Amazon 7 #1 May 29, 2015 Way to go Barstow.. You will comply in the police state,,,, STOP RESISTING I wonder how much this woman will get when she sues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #2 May 29, 2015 Life is just so much easier when people aren't assholes...Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #3 May 29, 2015 I don't know if what I saw was a slam or not. I saw a woman who chose not to comply with a request to identify herself followed by an overly dramatic response. I'm wondering if being mishandled by law enforcement is the new winning lottery ticket.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtiflyer 0 #4 May 29, 2015 Fuck I just drove through there on my way home from vacation. So just FYI in the state of California you do not have to provide ID unless you are accused of a crime. If ask to identify yourself all you are legally obligate to do is give your full name and address. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #5 May 29, 2015 AmazonWay to go Barstow.. You will comply in the police state,,,, STOP RESISTING I wonder how much this woman will get when she sues. The question we all would like to know the answer to is what would YOU do if you were in her exact same situation?There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 May 29, 2015 Driver1The question we all would like to know the answer to is what would YOU do if you were in her exact same situation? well, I'd freak out, I don't even have a uterus ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #7 May 29, 2015 rehmwa ***The question we all would like to know the answer to is what would YOU do if you were in her exact same situation? well, I'd freak out, I don't even have a uterus I just want to know if Amazon will comply. There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #8 May 29, 2015 >I'm wondering if being mishandled by law enforcement is the new winning lottery ticket. Could be. And if we reach a day when a cop thinks "damn, I really want to deck this uppity pregnant woman, but I don't want to give her that winning lottery ticket" that will, overall, be a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #9 May 29, 2015 And when cops start saying say damn he really needs to be caught for that crime but I don't want him to get hurt in the process and sue me, then let's him go it will be a bad thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #10 May 29, 2015 QuoteAnd when cops start saying say damn he really needs to be caught for that crime but I don't want him to get hurt in the process and sue me, then let's him go it will be a bad thing. I think we can stop at "so let's not kill him" or "so let's not beat the crap out of him." If there are cops out there that can't deal with both law-abiding citizens and criminals without beating them or killing them, then we are better off if they just let both types go. Let the better cops handle dealing with people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #11 May 29, 2015 Good luck getting better cops to put up with today's bullshit while getting paid peanuts. That's how you got here, pay 25k starting salary that tops out at 49k 30 years from now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,649 #12 May 29, 2015 cvfd1399Good luck getting better cops to put up with today's bullshit while getting paid peanuts. That's how you got here, pay 25k starting salary that tops out at 49k 30 years from now.That would require a tax increase so would be opposed at ever turn by the GOP... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #13 May 29, 2015 >That would require a tax increase so would be opposed at ever turn by the GOP Of course it wouldn't. They would increase pay (support the troops!) and cut taxes (get government's hands out of your wallet!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #15 May 29, 2015 cvfd1399And when cops start saying say damn he really needs to be caught for that crime but I don't want him to get hurt in the process and sue me, then let's him go it will be a bad thing. To be fair, I think that making sure cops know what is and is not crime, and what authority they do and do not have will only help both situations, don't you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #16 May 29, 2015 They do, but combine that with thousands upon thousands of laws that change every session, and a bottom of the barrel workforce in some locations is how you end up sometimes with that. Case in point yesterday I was in target, and a kid who had to be mid 20's has a high point (POS) pistol half in and half out of his waistband. I was going to say something, but for the life of me I could not remember if they changed the law where to comply with open carry it had to be 100% out in the open, or if IWB but shirt tucked in to show majority of the weapon was ok. I was with my 8 yo daughter so I just walked the other way, and got what we needed and left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #17 May 29, 2015 QuoteThey do, but combine that with thousands upon thousands of laws that change every session, and a bottom of the barrel workforce in some locations is how you end up sometimes with that. Ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defence for a civilian. Not sure why you think it would be for LEO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #18 May 29, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteThey do, but combine that with thousands upon thousands of laws that change every session, and a bottom of the barrel workforce in some locations is how you end up sometimes with that. Ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defence for a civilian. Not sure why you think it would be for LEO. Where did I say it was? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #19 May 29, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteThey do, but combine that with thousands upon thousands of laws that change every session, and a bottom of the barrel workforce in some locations is how you end up sometimes with that. Ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defence for a civilian. Not sure why you think it would be for LEO. The Roberts SCOTUS recently decided that ignorance of the law is totally acceptable if you are an LEO. Another totally horrendous decision by the Reich Wing judicial activists on SCOTUS. Our freedoms are eroding right before our eyes. http://www.npr.org/2014/12/15/370995815/supreme-court-rules-traffic-stop-ok-despite-misunderstanding-of-law Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #20 May 29, 2015 QuoteReich Wing The opposite of libtard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #21 May 29, 2015 QuoteThey do, but combine that with thousands upon thousands of laws that change every session, and a bottom of the barrel workforce in some locations is how you end up sometimes with that. Sure, thousands upon thousands of laws the majority of which a beat cop will never be anywhere near the investigation or enforcement of. Stopping citizens, asking questions and demanding information is something they do every day - and knowing what their powers are in those situations is a fundamental requirement for being able to do their jobs. QuoteI was going to say something, but for the life of me I could not remember if they changed the law where to comply with open carry it had to be 100% out in the open, or if IWB but shirt tucked in to show majority of the weapon was ok. Is it your job to know that?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #22 May 29, 2015 Nope but I have a CCW permit. It doesn't matter to me as I never open carry. Your fooling yourself if you think all cops should know everything in the WEST for their state much less stay 100% up to date. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #23 May 29, 2015 cvfd1399Good luck getting better cops to put up with today's bullshit while getting paid peanuts. That's how you got here, pay 25k starting salary that tops out at 49k 30 years from now. Around here starting pay is $78k, steps up annually to $104k after 7 years. Even police academy pays at an annualized rate of $66k. Not to mention retirement pay and retirement health insurance benefits, the like of which pretty much nobody has any more in the corporate/private sector. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #24 May 29, 2015 What department is that if you don't mind me asking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #25 May 29, 2015 "Special duty". Not knowing what that means exactly if it's a paid detail or not, but those are paid by a private company requesting the officer to the department, and added to their salary so taxes can be deducted for them, but are not paid for by tax payers which can look real deceiving if you did not know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites