Amazon 7 #1 July 12, 2014 Remember this guy??? How many of you voted for him. http://salem-news.com/articles/october022009/hanoi_john_10-2-09.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #2 July 12, 2014 If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 July 12, 2014 airdvrIf you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. And if you do not know the difference between collaboration and serving with honor and returning with honor intact... OH clearly you do not. I guess you just like your favorite GOP collaborator... Hanoi John.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #4 July 13, 2014 Amazon Hanoi John.. What does Senator Kerry have to do with this?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 July 13, 2014 turtlespeed*** Hanoi John.. What does Senator Kerry have to do with this? Absolutely nothing... he was just into killing them... not collaborating with them like Hanoi John did. You should read up on what he did while in captivity. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/210408McCain.htm But I doubt it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,478 #6 July 13, 2014 >If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. Exactly. One was a democrat, one was a republican. All you need to know on this forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #7 July 13, 2014 Juan McLame was nickname "the canary "buy his fellow prisoners. Kerry conversed with enemy while still in uniform. In a different era both would have been put up against the wall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #8 July 13, 2014 Amazon Remember this guy??? How many of you voted for him. http://salem-news.com/articles/october022009/hanoi_john_10-2-09.php Wow, I love articles that just throw shit at a wall to see what sticks... With your background I have a hard time believing that you buy into this also. McCain didn't have the benefit of the training that today's soldiers and sailors have. As a matter of fact, it's because of people like him that had a stay in the "Hanoi Hilton" that we the training we get today. You do realize that he can no longer raise his hands above his head properly because of the things that were broken and never healed correctly, right? It's been said that everyone in there spilled something at one point and time. It wasn't a controlled training environment with learning points to be had for only a couple of days like you may have been used to. Edited to add: Just saw the argument you were having in the American POW freed thread. Now I have the context to this post. Never mind... Please don't waterboard me again....."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 July 13, 2014 jgoose71 *** Remember this guy??? How many of you voted for him. http://salem-news.com/articles/october022009/hanoi_john_10-2-09.php Wow, I love articles that just throw shit at a wall to see what sticks... With your background I have a hard time believing that you buy into this also. McCain didn't have the benefit of the training that today's soldiers and sailors have. As a matter of fact, it's because of people like him that had a stay in the "Hanoi Hilton" that we the training we get today. You do realize that he can no longer raise his hands above his head properly because of the things that were broken and never healed correctly, right? It's been said that everyone in there spilled something at one point and time. It wasn't a controlled training environment with learning points to be had for only a couple of days like you may have been used to. Edited to add: Just saw the argument you were having in the American POW freed thread. Now I have the context to this post. Never mind... Please don't waterboard me again.....I had the honor of discussing at length and learning from several former guests of the NV.. and yes we learned a lot that led to the updated "suggestions" of how to deal with being held in those circumstances instead of the old way of doing things that caused more than a few of our guys to not return from their captivity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #10 July 13, 2014 Amazon***If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. And if you do not know the difference between collaboration and serving with honor and returning with honor intact... OH clearly you do not. I guess you just like your favorite GOP collaborator... Hanoi John.. I challenge anyone here to endure the kids of torture POWs endured and not talk. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel here Jean.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #11 July 13, 2014 airdvr ******If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. And if you do not know the difference between collaboration and serving with honor and returning with honor intact... OH clearly you do not. I guess you just like your favorite GOP collaborator... Hanoi John.. I challenge anyone here to endure the kids of torture POWs endured and not talk. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel here Jean. Hey Airdvr Amazon does understand this. If you missed it in American POW freed thread, someone was saying that because there was a picture of Bergdahl smiling with a taliban dude, he was a traitor. This thread is her way of trying to point out that this is not always the case. When you are a POW, your life is not your own and you will be used as a propaganda tool, it doesn't matter if you like it or agree to it. Of course, she is doing it with her usual, always loving and friendly (and never partisan) on-line demeanor...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #12 July 13, 2014 jgoose71 *********If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. And if you do not know the difference between collaboration and serving with honor and returning with honor intact... OH clearly you do not. I guess you just like your favorite GOP collaborator... Hanoi John.. I challenge anyone here to endure the kids of torture POWs endured and not talk. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel here Jean. Hey Airdvr Amazon does understand this. If you missed it in American POW freed thread, someone was saying that because there was a picture of Bergdahl smiling with a taliban dude, he was a traitor. This thread is her way of trying to point out that this is not always the case. When you are a POW, your life is not your own and you will be used as a propaganda tool, it doesn't matter if you like it or agree to it. Of course, she is doing it with her usual, always loving and friendly (and never partisan) on-line demeanor....No one especially me was saying that. I challenge you to show me where I did. Reading, how does it work again.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #13 July 13, 2014 ***airdiver challenge anyone here to accept the kinds of torture..... QuoteGD64 No thanks. To be clear, as a combat vet, we all have a worst case scenario (that we hope never to implement/or attempt to implement). McCain in his own words admits he broke. TOTALY understandable. However, I have also heard ("firsthand" accounts) of some McCain's actions and changed my view of the man. There was also a book written by another POW that experienced horrendous torture called "Unspeakable Crimes" or something close to that, in which he documents McCain's actions. I think when I started looking at the Forrestal incident (two-camps there), destruction of numerous aircraft while training, etc., etc., it influence's my believing of the above author. Shifting to modern day, the man's politico decisions have been mostly pathetic. "selfies" with ISIS, wanting to further war's through out the planet (...."USA military in the middle-east for 200 years"....), his current views on immigration, and more flip-flops than I have sandals (and I l lived the Jimmy Buffet lifestyle for awhile), makes me wish for his retirement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #14 July 13, 2014 Amazon ****** Hanoi John.. What does Senator Kerry have to do with this? Absolutely nothing... he was just into killing them... not collaborating with them like Hanoi John did. You should read up on what he did while in captivity. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/210408McCain.htm But I doubt it No no no... you can't have two people with the name Hanoi John. And Kerry already owns it. But Hey, thanks for playing.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #15 July 13, 2014 never voted for McCain, never liked him. I find it funny though how prisonplanet.com is somehow credible when it suits you-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #16 July 13, 2014 Yep. Because a guy who was on his fourth day of non-stop torture and said whatever would make it stop (he'd tried killing himself but was prevented) is just the same. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,280 #17 July 13, 2014 QuoteNo no no... you can't have two people with the name Hanoi John. And Kerry already owns it. Why?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #18 July 13, 2014 What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 July 13, 2014 propblast ************If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. And if you do not know the difference between collaboration and serving with honor and returning with honor intact... OH clearly you do not. I guess you just like your favorite GOP collaborator... Hanoi John.. I challenge anyone here to endure the kids of torture POWs endured and not talk. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel here Jean. Hey Airdvr Amazon does understand this. If you missed it in American POW freed thread, someone was saying that because there was a picture of Bergdahl smiling with a taliban dude, he was a traitor. This thread is her way of trying to point out that this is not always the case. When you are a POW, your life is not your own and you will be used as a propaganda tool, it doesn't matter if you like it or agree to it. Of course, she is doing it with her usual, always loving and friendly (and never partisan) on-line demeanor....No one especially me was saying that. I challenge you to show me where I did. Reading, how does it work again. But that is EXACTLY what the morons who put it out there in the Regurgesphere with their particular slant on the news ARE saying. You have to ask yourself WHY... since so many of their little sheep are reposting it without thinking about the REST OF THE STORY as the man used to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #20 July 13, 2014 GD64***airdiver challenge anyone here to accept the kinds of torture..... QuoteGD64 No thanks. To be clear, as a combat vet, we all have a worst case scenario (that we hope never to implement/or attempt to implement). McCain in his own words admits he broke. TOTALY understandable. However, I have also heard ("firsthand" accounts) of some McCain's actions and changed my view of the man. There was also a book written by another POW that experienced horrendous torture called "Unspeakable Crimes" or something close to that, in which he documents McCain's actions. I think when I started looking at the Forrestal incident (two-camps there), destruction of numerous aircraft while training, etc., etc., it influence's my believing of the above author. Shifting to modern day, the man's politico decisions have been mostly pathetic. "selfies" with ISIS, wanting to further war's through out the planet (...."USA military in the middle-east for 200 years"....), his current views on immigration, and more flip-flops than I have sandals (and I l lived the Jimmy Buffet lifestyle for awhile), makes me wish for his retirement. Face it McCain was an almost an ACE.... by his own hand... he was that close.... four confirmed aircraft down....the fifth one just had pretty bad damage from hitting a power line while screwing around... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 July 13, 2014 Channman What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #22 July 13, 2014 Amazon ***What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #23 July 14, 2014 turtlespeed ******What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #24 July 14, 2014 Amazon *********What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. I need about 1.5 seconds . . . It is because of your overwhelming hatred.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #25 July 14, 2014 turtlespeed ************What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. I need about 1.5 seconds . . . It is because of your overwhelming hatred. Only in the mind of confirmed cases of Tea Baggery my dear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
turtlespeed 212 #14 July 13, 2014 Amazon ****** Hanoi John.. What does Senator Kerry have to do with this? Absolutely nothing... he was just into killing them... not collaborating with them like Hanoi John did. You should read up on what he did while in captivity. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/210408McCain.htm But I doubt it No no no... you can't have two people with the name Hanoi John. And Kerry already owns it. But Hey, thanks for playing.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #15 July 13, 2014 never voted for McCain, never liked him. I find it funny though how prisonplanet.com is somehow credible when it suits you-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 July 13, 2014 Yep. Because a guy who was on his fourth day of non-stop torture and said whatever would make it stop (he'd tried killing himself but was prevented) is just the same. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #17 July 13, 2014 QuoteNo no no... you can't have two people with the name Hanoi John. And Kerry already owns it. Why?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #18 July 13, 2014 What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 July 13, 2014 propblast ************If you don't know the difference between Hanoi Jane and John McCain I weep for your heart. And if you do not know the difference between collaboration and serving with honor and returning with honor intact... OH clearly you do not. I guess you just like your favorite GOP collaborator... Hanoi John.. I challenge anyone here to endure the kids of torture POWs endured and not talk. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel here Jean. Hey Airdvr Amazon does understand this. If you missed it in American POW freed thread, someone was saying that because there was a picture of Bergdahl smiling with a taliban dude, he was a traitor. This thread is her way of trying to point out that this is not always the case. When you are a POW, your life is not your own and you will be used as a propaganda tool, it doesn't matter if you like it or agree to it. Of course, she is doing it with her usual, always loving and friendly (and never partisan) on-line demeanor....No one especially me was saying that. I challenge you to show me where I did. Reading, how does it work again. But that is EXACTLY what the morons who put it out there in the Regurgesphere with their particular slant on the news ARE saying. You have to ask yourself WHY... since so many of their little sheep are reposting it without thinking about the REST OF THE STORY as the man used to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 July 13, 2014 GD64***airdiver challenge anyone here to accept the kinds of torture..... QuoteGD64 No thanks. To be clear, as a combat vet, we all have a worst case scenario (that we hope never to implement/or attempt to implement). McCain in his own words admits he broke. TOTALY understandable. However, I have also heard ("firsthand" accounts) of some McCain's actions and changed my view of the man. There was also a book written by another POW that experienced horrendous torture called "Unspeakable Crimes" or something close to that, in which he documents McCain's actions. I think when I started looking at the Forrestal incident (two-camps there), destruction of numerous aircraft while training, etc., etc., it influence's my believing of the above author. Shifting to modern day, the man's politico decisions have been mostly pathetic. "selfies" with ISIS, wanting to further war's through out the planet (...."USA military in the middle-east for 200 years"....), his current views on immigration, and more flip-flops than I have sandals (and I l lived the Jimmy Buffet lifestyle for awhile), makes me wish for his retirement. Face it McCain was an almost an ACE.... by his own hand... he was that close.... four confirmed aircraft down....the fifth one just had pretty bad damage from hitting a power line while screwing around... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 July 13, 2014 Channman What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #22 July 13, 2014 Amazon ***What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #23 July 14, 2014 turtlespeed ******What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #24 July 14, 2014 Amazon *********What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. I need about 1.5 seconds . . . It is because of your overwhelming hatred.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #25 July 14, 2014 turtlespeed ************What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. I need about 1.5 seconds . . . It is because of your overwhelming hatred. Only in the mind of confirmed cases of Tea Baggery my dear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Amazon 7 #21 July 13, 2014 Channman What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #22 July 13, 2014 Amazon ***What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 July 14, 2014 turtlespeed ******What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #24 July 14, 2014 Amazon *********What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. I need about 1.5 seconds . . . It is because of your overwhelming hatred.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 July 14, 2014 turtlespeed ************What an ASS, you need to channel your hatred into something else. Awww I love it when y'all get all BUTT hurt like that.I guess we know where YOU channel yours now don't we...What is this - the third grade? What next? "I know you are but what am I?" seems like you are MUCH more alike than you want to believe.And why was that response to me Clint... Think about that for a few minutes and come up with something relevant. I need about 1.5 seconds . . . It is because of your overwhelming hatred. Only in the mind of confirmed cases of Tea Baggery my dear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
