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So you condemn Kerry's speech as full of blatant lies and hypocrisy, but you're okay with Putin's blatant lies and hypocrisy? Having legitimate interests in Ukraine doesn't excuse an armed invasion (unless you believe Putin that no Russian troops are on the ground, just local defense forces that happen to look exactly like Russian troops without their insignia on).



Come on, you heard Putin - it was all a training exercise planned months ago! Apparently that's the story Obama should use the next time he criticizes US aggressions.

Skyrad- I'd love to hear your rationalization of such bald faced lies. I know I can count on Nelyubin for some laughs, but what's your reason?

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U.S. diplomat Jack Matlock, who from 1987 to 1991 served as U.S. ambassador to Russia:
"Obama’s Confrontation over Ukraine Has Increased Putin’s Support at Home"
http://jackmatlock.com/2014/03/obama%E2%80%99s-confrontation-over-ukraine-has-increased-putin%E2%80%99s-support-at-home/#more-640



All of Eastern Europe - the several former soviet socialist republics and their prized satellites - are scrambling over each other to join the EU's sphere of influence. By contrast, learn the lesson of Georgia: the only way Russia can keep another country in Russia's sphere of influence is at the point of a gun. That is not Russia's strength, it is Russia's weakness.

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***Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.

Kudos to the young woman!!!

I have seen posts by some of the arch conservatives here that put links in for RT.. I chuckle every time one of them does that.. since most of them are already propagandized by FAUX I guess they will believe damn near anything.

Delusional people who can't make up their minds... funny stuff.

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******Is makes gulag for her.


Thank god the US doesn't have anyplace it tossed people it doesn't like into and keeps them for years and years on end.
Ve gif you free treeep to Crimea.. :ph34r::ph34r:

Crimea: Russia's Cuba
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***Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

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Nelyubin

******Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..

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*********Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..
Miserable, you do not know history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poor_mother_and_children,_Oklahoma,_1936_by_Dorothea_Lange.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lange-MigrantMother02.jpg
It is believed that in the United States during the Great Depression 7 million people died.

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Nelyubin

************Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..
Miserable, you do not know history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poor_mother_and_children,_Oklahoma,_1936_by_Dorothea_Lange.jpg

Unfortunately for you I do know and since you like Wiki,,, lets go with this one since its timely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Millions dead.. then move in ethnic Russians... Brilliant.

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***************Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..
Miserable, you do not know history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poor_mother_and_children,_Oklahoma,_1936_by_Dorothea_Lange.jpg

Unfortunately for you I do know and since you like Wiki,,, lets go with this one since its timely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Millions dead.. then move in ethnic Russians... Brilliant.It is believed that in the United States during the Great Depression 7 million people died.
In those years it there was a problem for many countries.
In the United States and the Soviet Union suffered the most agricultural areas.
In the Soviet Union suffered the most of Kazakhstan and Western Siberia. Ukraine lesser extent.
Learn the history.

From 2001 to 2012 the population of Ukraine abbr on 3.861 million people.
New Holodomor?

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Nelyubin

******************Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..
Miserable, you do not know history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poor_mother_and_children,_Oklahoma,_1936_by_Dorothea_Lange.jpg

Unfortunately for you I do know and since you like Wiki,,, lets go with this one since its timely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Millions dead.. then move in ethnic Russians... Brilliant.It is believed that in the United States during the Great Depression 7 million people died.
In those years it there was a problem for many countries.
In the United States and the Soviet Union suffered the most agricultural areas.
In the Soviet Union suffered the most of Kazakhstan and Western Siberia. Ukraine lesser extent.
Learn the history.

Seriously???? "Facts" from PRAVDA and RT??? SCHWEEET...ROFL

Who was that Information Minister guy in Iraq again??????

I even took a conservative site
They're not correct. There actually is a source document that provides much more accurate data than Pravda, from the CDC, http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/VSUS_1937_1.pdf, it seems that the death rate actually declined during the Depression. Here's the relevant passage:


DEATH RATE TREND.-In1937 there were 1,450,427 registered deaths In the United States. Using an estimated midyear population of 129,257,000, the crude death rate is 11.2 per 1,000.
This rate ,though slightly lower than the rate for 1936,Is not greatly different from those for the past several years. In 1900,the first year for which annual mortality statistics were compiled, the crude death rate was 17.6.The trend of the rate since that year has been generally downward, although there has been an occasional year or high mortality. The lowest death rate for this period of time is Tor 1933, for which year the rate is 10.7.
In other words, four years after the Wall Street crash, the death rate was the lowest it had been in years. An honest man would admit his error and acknowledge that during the worst economic catastrophe in its history, the capitalist system proved far more resilient than any communist state, even during times of plenty.

How many millions were "relocated" by Comrade Joe that ended up dying in the Gulag?? How many did he and his minions just stand up against a wall and shoot.
Historical fact trumps pseudo-scientific propaganda.. Did you not learn that after the soviet archives were opened??

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*********************Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..
Miserable, you do not know history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poor_mother_and_children,_Oklahoma,_1936_by_Dorothea_Lange.jpg

Unfortunately for you I do know and since you like Wiki,,, lets go with this one since its timely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Millions dead.. then move in ethnic Russians... Brilliant.It is believed that in the United States during the Great Depression 7 million people died.
In those years it there was a problem for many countries.
In the United States and the Soviet Union suffered the most agricultural areas.
In the Soviet Union suffered the most of Kazakhstan and Western Siberia. Ukraine lesser extent.
Learn the history.

Seriously???? "Facts" from PRAVDA and RT??? SCHWEEET...ROFL

Who was that Information Minister guy in Iraq again??????

I even took a conservative site
They're not correct. There actually is a source document that provides much more accurate data than Pravda, from the CDC, http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/VSUS_1937_1.pdf, it seems that the death rate actually declined during the Depression. Here's the relevant passage:


DEATH RATE TREND.-In1937 there were 1,450,427 registered deaths In the United States. Using an estimated midyear population of 129,257,000, the crude death rate is 11.2 per 1,000.
This rate ,though slightly lower than the rate for 1936,Is not greatly different from those for the past several years. In 1900,the first year for which annual mortality statistics were compiled, the crude death rate was 17.6.The trend of the rate since that year has been generally downward, although there has been an occasional year or high mortality. The lowest death rate for this period of time is Tor 1933, for which year the rate is 10.7.
In other words, four years after the Wall Street crash, the death rate was the lowest it had been in years. An honest man would admit his error and acknowledge that during the worst economic catastrophe in its history, the capitalist system proved far more resilient than any communist state, even during times of plenty.

How many millions were "relocated" by Comrade Joe that ended up dying in the Gulag?? How many did he and his minions just stand up against a wall and shoot.
Historical fact trumps pseudo-scientific propaganda.. Did you not learn that after the soviet archives were opened??It is not necessary to collect gossip forums.
Once again, teach history.
http://lurkmore.so/images/2/2a/Great_depression_children_for_sale.jpg

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Nelyubin


In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.



In answer to the question: "How many did Stalin kill?"

"Medevedev's grim bookkeeping included the following tragic episodes: 1 million imprisoned or exiled between 1927 to 1929; 9 to 11 million peasants forced off their lands and another 2 to 3 million peasants arrested or exiled in the mass collectivization program; 6 to 7 million killed by an artificial famine in 1932-1934; 1 million exiled from Moscow and Leningrad in 1935; 1 million executed during the ''Great Terror'' of 1937-1938; 4 to 6 million dispatched to forced labor camps; 10 to 12 million people forcibly relocated during World War II; and at least 1 million arrested for various “political crimes” from 1946 to 1953.

Although not everyone who was swept up in the aforementioned events died from unnatural causes, Medvedev’s 20 million non-combatant deaths estimate is likely a conservative guess.

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million."

Sort of puts the 1369 executions in the US in the past 40 years to bed. Never mind that Americans get trials...Putin routinely jails industrial figures that don't play along. Terribly for encourage foreign investment.

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Nelyubin

************************Russia Today news woman resigns on air: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

Looks like she's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore.



Is makes gulag for her.Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate
In the U.S. today more prisoners than it was in Stalin's camps.

Got any stats for starvation comparison in former Soviet Socialist Republics???

Hint... you win that number game by millions..
Miserable, you do not know history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poor_mother_and_children,_Oklahoma,_1936_by_Dorothea_Lange.jpg

Unfortunately for you I do know and since you like Wiki,,, lets go with this one since its timely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Millions dead.. then move in ethnic Russians... Brilliant.It is believed that in the United States during the Great Depression 7 million people died.
In those years it there was a problem for many countries.
In the United States and the Soviet Union suffered the most agricultural areas.
In the Soviet Union suffered the most of Kazakhstan and Western Siberia. Ukraine lesser extent.
Learn the history.

Seriously???? "Facts" from PRAVDA and RT??? SCHWEEET...ROFL

Who was that Information Minister guy in Iraq again??????

I even took a conservative site
They're not correct. There actually is a source document that provides much more accurate data than Pravda, from the CDC, http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/VSUS_1937_1.pdf, it seems that the death rate actually declined during the Depression. Here's the relevant passage:


DEATH RATE TREND.-In1937 there were 1,450,427 registered deaths In the United States. Using an estimated midyear population of 129,257,000, the crude death rate is 11.2 per 1,000.
This rate ,though slightly lower than the rate for 1936,Is not greatly different from those for the past several years. In 1900,the first year for which annual mortality statistics were compiled, the crude death rate was 17.6.The trend of the rate since that year has been generally downward, although there has been an occasional year or high mortality. The lowest death rate for this period of time is Tor 1933, for which year the rate is 10.7.
In other words, four years after the Wall Street crash, the death rate was the lowest it had been in years. An honest man would admit his error and acknowledge that during the worst economic catastrophe in its history, the capitalist system proved far more resilient than any communist state, even during times of plenty.

How many millions were "relocated" by Comrade Joe that ended up dying in the Gulag?? How many did he and his minions just stand up against a wall and shoot.
Historical fact trumps pseudo-scientific propaganda.. Did you not learn that after the soviet archives were opened??It is not necessary to collect gossip forums.
Once again, teach history.
http://lurkmore.so/images/2/2a/Great_depression_children_for_sale.jpg

Uh I think I would trust Data from CDC... http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/VSUS_1937_1.pdf

Oh and cute pictures.. how many Americans "bought" children from Russia since the collapse of Soviet Utopia??

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Nelyubin

Adoption of orphans you call buying?
U.S. citizens already banned adoptions Russian orphans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dima_Yakovlev_Law

I understand why you constantly change the subject of dispute.
Okay - the dog barks, the caravan passes.



I understand most paid a fairly hefty price... Not changing subject.. that would be you jumping all around the issues... you know..

Russia invading Crimea and Ukraine to protect ethnic Russians... kinda like that german guy did with the Sudatenland in the 1930's....

What was his name again???? Dictator guy.. born in Austria.. took his country to war.... killed a few commies and a few million other people???

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***Adoption of orphans you call buying?
U.S. citizens already banned adoptions Russian orphans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dima_Yakovlev_Law

I understand why you constantly change the subject of dispute.
Okay - the dog barks, the caravan passes.



I understand most paid a fairly hefty price... Not changing subject.. that would be you jumping all around the issues... you know..

Russia invading Crimea and Ukraine to protect ethnic Russians... kinda like that german guy did with the Sudatenland in the 1930's....

What was his name again???? Dictator guy.. born in Austria.. took his country to war.... killed a few commies and a few million other people???Again.
Where Danzig Corridor?
In your sick imagination?

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Nelyubin

******Adoption of orphans you call buying?
U.S. citizens already banned adoptions Russian orphans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dima_Yakovlev_Law

I understand why you constantly change the subject of dispute.
Okay - the dog barks, the caravan passes.



I understand most paid a fairly hefty price... Not changing subject.. that would be you jumping all around the issues... you know..

Russia invading Crimea and Ukraine to protect ethnic Russians... kinda like that german guy did with the Sudatenland in the 1930's....

What was his name again???? Dictator guy.. born in Austria.. took his country to war.... killed a few commies and a few million other people???Again.
Where Danzig Corridor?
In your sick imagination?

Hey I would have thought a historical genius could figure it out.

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Officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to the ousted President Viktor Yanukovich have hacked phones of Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs Urmas Paet and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and leaked their conversation to the web. The officials discuss their impressions of what's happening in the country after the revolution. The gist of it is that Ukrainian people have no trust in any of the leaders of Maidan.
However the most striking thing of all is the fact which concerns the use of force during the revolution, particularly the snipers who killed both protesters and officers of the riot police. Mr. Paet reveals astonishing information which confirms the rumours that the snipers were employed by the leaders of Maidan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8

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Officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to the ousted President Viktor Yanukovich have hacked phones of Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs Urmas Paet and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and leaked their conversation to the web. The officials discuss their impressions of what's happening in the country after the revolution. The gist of it is that Ukrainian people have no trust in any of the leaders of Maidan.
However the most striking thing of all is the fact which concerns the use of force during the revolution, particularly the snipers who killed both protesters and officers of the riot police. Mr. Paet reveals astonishing information which confirms the rumours that the snipers were employed by the leaders of Maidan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8



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Sigh.
Here. Drink this:

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