SMS 0 #201 March 19, 2014 QuotePutin gave a little sermon about 7 months ago about how military action was only supportable for defensive needs, or signoff from the UN Sec council. It will be hard for him to try that approach again, and his neutering of it goes well past what the two Bushes did wrt Iraq. As for Europe needing Russia more than the other way around....it's very dangerous for a nation to rely on a single commodity for over half its income. We usually call them banana republics. They may not be able to reduce their oil/gas dependency on a dime, but given a decade, it could get a bit uncomfortable for mother Russia, just as it has for Iraq and Iran. For a start, Russia was defending Russians. I personally know Ukranians that saw with thier own eyes people getting shot by unmarked 'mercinaries'. This has been much the same in many of the political uprisings around the globe in the past few years. It is well known that these agitators are paid by western countries/companies ( Academi/Blackwater for example). Ukraine has been taken over by a facist right wing nazis. The west seem quite content supporting them and their war tones. The west also support Al Qaeda in Syria so that figures. The Russians have pulled this off with minimal casualties and maximum support from the local population. Though the western media are trying hard to make this look like Russia are the assholes, it is quite clear that this is not the case. The west look like amateures and are in check mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #202 March 19, 2014 HOLY BATSHIT BATMAN.. I did not realize that psychedelics were so available in Russia. Who woulda thunk it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #203 March 19, 2014 SMS Though the western media are trying hard to make this look like Russia are the assholes, it is quite clear that this is not the case. The west look like amateures and are in check mate. I love how this sock puppet can't even stick to the same story line in his own posting. Tell me, why didn't the assholes present their evidence to the UN Security Council, as Putin lectured that Obama+others should have done with regards to Syria last year? And why did Putin LIE for a week, claiming that there were no Russian forces within the borders, and that their activity near the border was training activity planned months ago? And since you're defending this, why would we believe anything you're saying here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #204 March 19, 2014 kelpdiver*** Though the western media are trying hard to make this look like Russia are the assholes, it is quite clear that this is not the case. The west look like amateures and are in check mate. I love how this sock puppet can't even stick to the same story line in his own posting. Tell me, why didn't the assholes present their evidence to the UN Security Council, as Putin lectured that Obama+others should have done with regards to Syria last year? And why did Putin LIE for a week, claiming that there were no Russian forces within the borders, and that their activity near the border was training activity planned months ago? And since you're defending this, why would we believe anything you're saying here? Iz hallucinogens in food allowing for suggeztivty. Tovarishch Puddin get old KGB Tovarishch for eexellent adwentur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #205 March 19, 2014 oooppsie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FhNpmHXeoQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SMS 0 #206 March 19, 2014 QuoteTell me, why didn't the assholes present their evidence to the UN Security Council, as Putin lectured that Obama+others should have done with regards to Syria last year? Whatever way you look at it, the US are being fucking hypocrites, have played this game like pussies and have already lost. Go Crimea-river and get over it. You lost, game over! The Russians hold the EU by the balls... If they turn the gas pipes off, we will see the EU flipping a bitch on their US support real quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #207 March 19, 2014 normiss.how soon before we get Patriot missile batteries in the Ukrainian portion of the base? Grey area, but that might possibly violate the ABM treaty. Likely Russia will argue it does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #208 March 19, 2014 Andy9o8***.how soon before we get Patriot missile batteries in the Ukrainian portion of the base? Grey area, but that might possibly violate the ABM treaty. Likely Russia will argue it does. I thought we withdrew from the ABM Treaty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #209 March 19, 2014 muff528******.how soon before we get Patriot missile batteries in the Ukrainian portion of the base? Grey area, but that might possibly violate the ABM treaty. Likely Russia will argue it does. I thought we withdrew from the ABM Treaty. Hm. So we did. I wonder why I forgot that. I guess I need more coffee. Ok, never mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 736 #210 March 19, 2014 The US has English speaking US citizens in Cuba. We should move to protect them. Stage a vote. Take the island. While claiming we aren't. stoopid gooberments and international politics! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #211 March 19, 2014 normiss The US has English speaking US citizens in Cuba. We should move to protect them. Stage a vote. Take the island. While claiming we aren't. stoopid gooberments and international politics! Mexico has Spanish-speaking Mexican citizens in the US. (Cuba, too!) They should move to protect them. Stage a vote. Take the country. While claiming they aren't. Oh, wait.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #212 March 19, 2014 Andy9o8***.how soon before we get Patriot missile batteries in the Ukrainian portion of the base? Grey area, but that might possibly violate the ABM treaty. Likely Russia will argue it does. One time where Reagan's act first, think rarely approach may be the right one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #213 March 19, 2014 SMS You lost, game over! No, Crimea lost. Freedom lost. And Russia lost - you focus on the short term, but the long term consequences are pretty bad for your nation. Already foreign investment was lagging due to the serious corruption driven by Putin's government. And for what? A small piece on land? I (and the US for that matter) lost nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SMS 0 #215 March 19, 2014 QuoteNo, Crimea lost. Freedom lost. And Russia lost - you focus on the short term, but the long term consequences are pretty bad for your nation. Already foreign investment was lagging due to the serious corruption driven by Putin's government. And for what? A small piece on land? My country? LOL you have no idea which country is mine. It is neither Russia nor the US. QuoteI (and the US for that matter) lost nothing. Haha, how about your credibility? Your self appointed global police status, or you ability to manipulate global politics in your own favour? Putin is seen as a leader, Obama is seen as a bulshitting pussy that makes false threats which he backtracks on, and he cannot win a war even with trillions thrown at it. Putin can win one in a week. America is no longer the #1 world power, that title was lost recently. With that comes the demise of your economy and your easy lifestyle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #216 March 19, 2014 QuotePutin is seen as a leader, Obama is seen as a bulshitting pussy that makes false threats which he backtracks on, and he cannot win a war even with trillions thrown at it. Putin can win one in a week. America is no longer the #1 world power, that title was lost recently. With that comes the demise of your economy and your easy lifestyle. Some of what you say here is true. Some of what you say is pure BS. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #217 March 19, 2014 normiss The US has English speaking US citizens in Cuba. We should move to protect them. Stage a vote. Take the island. While claiming we aren't. stoopid gooberments and international politics! Face it.... some people dig having smoke blown up their asses.. that diatribe about the Rusky justification... looked a lot like the ORIGINAL version of FAUX News from the old Soviet days. RT.. the highly sanitized English version just like their old Cold War version with Vladimir Pozner( self described as working in disinformation capacity for KGB). It is actually fun to watch.. for comedic entertainment purposes only... "Thank you and good evening"The problem is for the weak of mind who actually fall for that kind of pure propaganda who do not see it for what it is... here OR there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 736 #218 March 19, 2014 Man I wish you'd use English. I don't have the code book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 736 #219 March 19, 2014 Who were you when you were banned??? Who the hell joins dizzy and IMMEDIATELY makes a beeline for SC??? Only 4 posts....just for this? I smell a rat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #220 March 19, 2014 normissMan I wish you'd use English. I don't have the code book. Use this to decipher..... its a know your enemy kind of thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Posner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #221 March 19, 2014 SMS My country? LOL you have no idea which country is mine. It is neither Russia nor the US. if it talks like a bear and shits like a bear....it be bear. Quote Haha, how about your credibility? Your self appointed global police status, or you ability to manipulate global politics in your own favour? Putin is seen as a leader, Obama is seen as a bulshitting pussy that makes false threats which he backtracks on, and he cannot win a war even with trillions thrown at it. Putin can win one in a week. Oh, was there a war we missed? I seem to recall the Russians getting crushed even more badly in Afghanistan just 30 years ago. It was the beginning of the end for the Soviet Empire. You're living in some funky fantasy world, clearly driven by petty bias and an inability to see the big picture. Putin has shown that Russia is not to be trusted, and will tell bald faced lies while violating other nations' borders. It has been showing for quite some time that they will support killers in the UN. I'm a bit puzzled by your inconsistencies with Obama - is he the self appoint global police chief, or a bullshitting pussy? No one is going to nominate Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize, either. Quote America is no longer the #1 world power, that title was lost recently. With that comes the demise of your economy and your easy lifestyle. No one has replaced it. It is regressing towards the mean. But the sooner the hawks here realize that it's not in our interests or budget to sustain control, the better. If others miss our influence and protection, they can pony up some cash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #222 March 19, 2014 kelpdiver*** My country? LOL you have no idea which country is mine. It is neither Russia nor the US. if it talks like a bear and shits like a bear....it be bear. Quote Haha, how about your credibility? Your self appointed global police status, or you ability to manipulate global politics in your own favour? Putin is seen as a leader, Obama is seen as a bulshitting pussy that makes false threats which he backtracks on, and he cannot win a war even with trillions thrown at it. Putin can win one in a week. Oh, was there a war we missed? I seem to recall the Russians getting crushed even more badly in Afghanistan just 30 years ago. It was the beginning of the end for the Soviet Empire. You're living in some funky fantasy world, clearly driven by petty bias and an inability to see the big picture. Putin has shown that Russia is not to be trusted, and will tell bald faced lies while violating other nations' borders. It has been showing for quite some time that they will support killers in the UN. I'm a bit puzzled by your inconsistencies with Obama - is he the self appoint global police chief, or a bullshitting pussy? No one is going to nominate Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize, either. Quote America is no longer the #1 world power, that title was lost recently. With that comes the demise of your economy and your easy lifestyle. No one has replaced it. It is regressing towards the mean. But the sooner the hawks here realize that it's not in our interests or budget to sustain control, the better. If others miss our influence and protection, they can pony up some cash. I think this is the greatest thing that has happened in years. Perhaps now the Europeans will pull their heads out of the places they have had them stuck...for YEARS... and indeed realize where the real threat lies. Comrade Puddin the moobies man has shown the true face of his upbringing in Soviet Russia and his place in the CPSU and the KGB. The west had hoped he was a man they could deal with.... this shows he is not. In the long run Russia has cemented an adversarial relationship that will isolate it from the civilized world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #223 March 19, 2014 Quote No one is going to nominate Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize, either. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vladimir-putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #224 March 19, 2014 Andy9o8 Quote No one is going to nominate Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize, either. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vladimir-putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/ That article reeks of Onion though that's not the case. In thinking about this for a moment, Putin seems a worthy candidate considering he was able to pull off an invasion with minimal bloodshed (shitbag that he is aside). Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelyubin 0 #225 March 19, 2014 Guys, stop talking nonsense. You can read an English translation of Vladimir Putin’s March 4 press conference here http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37889.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4D_qR18s Small signal on loud threats of the USA Since July 11, 2014 the transit center of army of the USA in Manas will be closed. Think how to supply and disengage the armies in Afghanistan. If the U.S. government does not understand the signal. Will be closed transit to Afghanistan of all goods on the territory of CIS countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites