SkyDekker 1,147 #26 November 27, 2012 QuoteI would not ban containers of alcohol to try and prevent it. Yet open containers are banned in vehicles. QuoteI would not ban beer to try and prevent it. Yet beer is banned under those circumstances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #27 November 27, 2012 Quote Quote you little fishy So says the monkey. Sounds like something out of Aesop's fables When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #28 November 27, 2012 QuoteThere's still hope! Still hope for what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #29 November 27, 2012 >Yet open containers are banned in vehicles. >Yet beer is banned under those circumstances. Republicans want to grab your beer! Their conservative ways lead them to want to ban beer for all Americans - for their own good, of course. Why, even Romney has BANNED it in his home! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #30 November 27, 2012 Meh, I didn't say that. Was just wondering if the logic behind his reasoning extended beyong guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #31 November 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteI would not ban containers of alcohol to try and prevent it. Yet open containers are banned in vehicles. actually, not in all states, and not in all vehicles (example - limo, bus) when you go on to ask about laws against drinking, you're not longer talking about the object, and instead the behaviour of the person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #32 November 27, 2012 QuoteSo it's not a good idea to arm them with things that they can use to kill others. I've got things all over my house I could use to kill people if I were so inclined. My truck would probably work pretty good, though it wouldn't be much help to protect myself from a home intruder. And, no surprise, people in vehicles kill WAY more people than people with guns do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #33 November 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI would not ban containers of alcohol to try and prevent it. Yet open containers are banned in vehicles. actually, not in all states, and not in all vehicles (example - limo, bus) when you go on to ask about laws against drinking, you're not longer talking about the object, and instead the behaviour of the person. Correct. Georgia: can have open containers in the vehicle providing the driving has no alcohol on his/her breath and their are enough people in the vehicle to account for every open container, 1:1.In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #34 November 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhen will your kind realize that a gun is an object? Who is "my kind"? A nuclear bomb is an object too, but that doesn't mean that everyone should have one. Humans are imperfect, they're fallible, they screw up, and sometimes they turn just plain evil. So it's not a good idea to arm them with things that they can use to kill others. Humans are imperfect, they're fallible, they screw up, and sometimes they turn just plain evil. So it's not a good idea to disarm their law-abiding prey.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #35 November 27, 2012 Those slick Dems are manufacturing it in the basement of the WH!!!! OMG! I smell a conspiracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #36 November 27, 2012 Quoteactually, not in all states, and not in all vehicles (example - limo, bus) Correct, just in the majority of States and in the majority of vehicles. Thank you for pointing out that there are exceptions to most rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #37 November 27, 2012 >Meh, I didn't say that. Sorry, was a joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #38 November 27, 2012 Quote LMAONever mind Ron look on the bright side theres always the end of the world. Actually, the end of the world thing that most people think Christians talk about is really the Tribulation Period. The end of the world is way, way into the future. However, we could see the Tribulation in our lifetime. The Tribulation will start with peace in the Mideast and 3.5 years of prosperity through one world government. All the Radicals/Liberals will be rejoicing. It will be more fun than BHO's re-election. Then the poo poo will hit the fan. The following 3.5 years will be very, very bad.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #39 November 27, 2012 Quote>Yet open containers are banned in vehicles. >Yet beer is banned under those circumstances. Republicans want to grab your beer! Their conservative ways lead them to want to ban beer for all Americans - for their own good, of course. Why, even Romney has BANNED it in his home! We have proof that Obama hasn't banned it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #40 November 28, 2012 Quote Quote Quote you little fishy So says the monkey. Sounds like something out of Aesop's fables This one seems fitting: "The Monkey and the Fishermen": http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_aesop_monkey_fisherman.htm Note what happens when the monkey tries to catch the fish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #41 November 28, 2012 Quotepeople in vehicles kill WAY more people than people with guns do. People who kill with vehicles do so accidentally. People who kill with guns do so intentionally. So perhaps we should be a little more strict on the guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #42 November 28, 2012 QuoteQuotepeople in vehicles kill WAY more people than people with guns do. People who kill with vehicles do so accidentally. People who kill with guns do so intentionally. So perhaps we should be a little more strict on the guns. I think we are a little more strict with the guns. I have no problem with having certain regulations, but I see no reason why capable, law-abiding citizens should not be allowed to own guns. And, while your statements are mostly true, death by vehicle is not always an accident, and death by gun is not always intentional. If a person intends to kill someone else, they'll probably find a way to do it whether they have a gun or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #43 November 28, 2012 Quote Quote people in vehicles kill WAY more people than people with guns do. People who kill with vehicles do so accidentally. People who kill with guns do so intentionally. So perhaps we should be a little more strict on the guns. Bullish. There is nearly no such thing as an accident, whether it comes to guns or cars. I refuse to ever accept the excuse of "accidental shooting" based upon the fundamental rules of possessing and handling firearms, and I feel the same about autos. There is always at minimum a case of negligence. An idiot talking on their phone doesn't "accidentally" sideswipe a motorcylist on the interstate while changing lanes. A drunk idiot driving with too many in him doesn't "accidentally" run a red light. A moron in a hurry to pass a truck on a two lane doesn't "accidentally" have a head on with a car coming the other direction. Call it "non-malacious" all you want, but that person put something stupid like their time before the lives of everyone around them when they committed their act of idiocy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #44 November 28, 2012 QuoteQuotepeople in vehicles kill WAY more people than people with guns do. People who kill with vehicles do so accidentally. Not always true. People who kill with guns do so intentionally. Not always true, as well. So perhaps we should be a little more strict on the guns. Using false, fact lacking, statements as absolutes, only weakens your point. Since it is a weak point to begin with, it pretty much means this is a pointless thread. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #45 November 28, 2012 Quote Bullish. There is nearly no such thing as an accident, whether it comes to guns or cars. I refuse to ever accept the excuse of "accidental shooting" based upon the fundamental rules of possessing and handling firearms, and I feel the same about autos. There is always at minimum a case of negligence. you can argue the semantics all you want, these are still accidents. People do not intend for them to occur. In many, the level of negligence is clearly a factor, but it's false to claim it's always there, no matter how many obvious examples you want to cite. (BTW, no one calls a collision caused by a drunk running a red light an accident - they call it a felony) There are far far fewer cases of gun accidents that aren't negligent, but there are also far fewer such events to start with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #46 November 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou still have a chance to stop being a 1-trick pony. Seize the day! Why does the phrase 'one trick pony' always make me think of prostitution? "pony" not "donkey"-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #47 November 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you live in Australia, Germany or the USA? ...face it, you doing really give a shit its just a fun... No comprende, señor. He doesn't understand?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #48 November 28, 2012 QuoteQuote No comprende, señor. He doesn't understand? I suspect he wrote: "YOU do not understand." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #49 November 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhen will your kind realize that a gun is an object? Who is "my kind"? A nuclear bomb is an object too, but that doesn't mean that everyone should have one. Humans are imperfect, they're fallible, they screw up, and sometimes they turn just plain evil. BAN HUMANS!!! Quote So it's not a good idea to arm them with things that they can use to kill others. like hybrid vehicles? but what if he's got a pointed stick?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #50 November 28, 2012 Quotebut what if he's got a pointed stick? Shutup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
