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QuoteIF there was a God who created the universe and all that was in it, wouldn't human understanding pale to His? Not trying to debate nor am I offering this as a last resort argument, just wanted your input to the question if you don't mind. thanks in advance!
And if you're not trying to prove to others that you have the one true faith, but instead using your faith personally, then frankly, I think that argument stands up just fine. Because you're not using it for others, but only for yourself.QuoteYes, it likely would. But to even consider that premise you need to already make the assumption that he exists. So to use the idea that "God exists because we can't understand his plans and his nature" is no different than to say "Faeries exist because we can't understand the magical world".
It just doesn't really solve anything.
Of course, since I'm on about that same page, it's pretty natural I'd identify with it.
The best part is that it's quite compatible with reality (i.e. whatever we know about science), because it doesn't require God to have specifically decided that some babies (by name) will be born with devastating birth defects, that some people (by name, again) will be evil turds, and that a tsunami will kill 250,000 people. Or anything else like that.
To me, God represents the spiritual which I don't understand and want to connect with. It could be chemicals in the brain. It could be I'm wrong. Such is life -- that's why it's called faith. It doesn't require anything of anyone but me.
Wendy P.
QuoteQuoteIF there was a God who created the universe and all that was in it, wouldn't human understanding pale to His? Not trying to debate nor am I offering this as a last resort argument, just wanted your input to the question if you don't mind. thanks in advance!
Yes, it likely would. But to even consider that premise you need to already make the assumption that he exists. So to use the idea that "God exists because we can't understand his plans and his nature" is no different than to say "Faeries exist because we can't understand the magical world".
It just doesn't really solve anything.
Oh, I agree it is a terrible argument for God, but just wanted to see your take. Thanks for the input!
steveOrino
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QuoteEverything in our universe requires a designer.
Do you believe that evolution is designed?
QuoteQuoteEverything in our universe requires a designer.
Do you believe that evolution is designed?
that would contradict the concept in itself; maybe the guy you replied to has a hard time understanding this since evolution cant really be observed, but explained. that, or he is a "creationist".
-Hunter S. Thompson
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DanG 1
QuoteEverything in our universe requires a designer.
Who designed the rocks I walked over this morning? Who designed the hydrogen atom? So far all you've done is given examples of man made things requiring designers. Of course they do. But the leap from, "my computer needed a designer," to, "everything in our universe needed a designer," has no basis in logic.
- Dan G
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QuoteQuoteQuoteEverything in our universe requires a designer.
Do you believe that evolution is designed?
that would contradict the concept in itself; maybe the guy you replied to has a hard time understanding this since evolution cant really be observed, but explained. that, or he is a "creationist".
It would not contradict the concept.
With all due respect, the Romans killed Cousin Jesus (assuming that's who you mean by "his son," which is a Pagan concept that Jesus would have found alien). When asked about it, the Romans said "Uh, it's the Jews' fault. They made us do it."
That you are so credulous as to accept the account of the people who sought to destroy everything Jesus stood for, usurping his legacy in the process, speaks badly for your cognitive skills.
Damn Italians - the Godfather was active even back then
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