skyrider 0 #1 December 7, 2010 Now that we have "your" racist hang ups out off the way, I'll post the subject.. http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslim-brotherhood-front-group-trains-airpo rt-screeners/ The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) has completed training for 2,200 Transportation Safety Officers (TSOs) at the Los Angeles International Airport according to a press release found on the MPAC website. The MPAC release notes that the two-month training course informed officers of "the diversity of Muslims around the world from cultural dress to language to tenets. The four trainers taught the TSOs how to properly handle a Quran and discussed the different ways Muslim women and men choose to cover or dress. For example, the TSOs learned if a woman wears hijab and needs a secondary screening she should be screened in a private area by a female TSO officer." In 1986, MPAC was formed as a political action arm of one of the largest Wahhabi mosques in America, the Islamic Center for Southern California. As the Center for Security Policy's Team B II report entitled "Sharia: The Threat to America" notes, "The founders of the Islamic Center for Southern California are Hassan Hathout and his brother Maher Hathout. The late Hassan Hathout was a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood Movement. The two brothers Maher spent time in an Egyptian prison during the early days of the Muslim Brotherhood's activities there, led by the Brotherhood's founder Hassan Al Banna. MPAC's own publication, The Minaret, has proudly called Hassan a 'companion of' and Maher 'a close disciple of' Brotherhood founder Hassan al Banna." Maher Hathout also founded and is currently a senior advisor for MPAC. He and others at MPAC also currently work for and maintain a close relationship with the Islamic Center of Southern California. Read More: by Connie Hair, Human Events Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #2 December 7, 2010 QuoteIn 1986, MPAC was formed as a political action arm of one of the largest Wahhabi mosques in America, the Islamic Center for Southern California. I'm a little hesitant to accept icsc as a "Wahhabi mosque" as that's a pretty strong (and derogatory) claim to make. I poked around briefly and I don't really see evidence of it in their actions. (If it's any consolation I did note that it's surrounded by a Sizzler, a Buddhist temple, and a Jack in the Box.) As for these particular actions by MPAC, is this really any different from the USPA trying to help educate the TSA about skydiving rigs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 December 7, 2010 QuoteAs for these particular actions by MPAC, is this really any different from the USPA trying to help educate the TSA about skydiving rigs? Yeah, I'm not seeing anything wrong with it either. What's the issue?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #4 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteAs for these particular actions by MPAC, is this really any different from the USPA trying to help educate the TSA about skydiving rigs? Yeah, I'm not seeing anything wrong with it either. What's the issue? The Issue?? "Accept our ways".. "Ignore" them...But the rest of "you" law abidding US citizens, keep taking "your " shoes off, and "you" keep walking threw them scanners, But it is against our way /religion...forget "we" are the poeple blowing up your buildings and planes, Just respect "our " religion and "rights" they matter more than "yours"! Profiling is bad...very baddd...(said in my best Mr. Garrison voice) Liberals are baddddd,,very Baddddd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #5 December 7, 2010 Don't get me wrong, I'm human, and I admit that I had to take a deep breath when I read your OP. I'm not going to pretend that I don't understand why this story is frustrating just to make myself look better. My reaction to reading the icsc part was, "crap... really? what's the story with this place..." and then I spent the 20 minutes or so reading about the place, things they've supported, and statements their spokespeople have made. Remember to keep the problems of violent international extremists, idiots working for the TSA (btw I actually had a pleasantly uneventful trip to Chicago last week free of pat downs or body scans), and "Sharia-creep" separate. You have to, because there isn't one solution. And don't think that people with my mind set are all frogs in the pot of boiling water. We're people standing next to a few pots of water with clear view of thermometers in each. We don't want to see any of them boil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,683 #6 December 7, 2010 Another "I'm not a bigot but..." thread.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #7 December 7, 2010 QuoteNow that we have "your" racist hang ups out off the way, I'll post the subject.. http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslim-brotherhood-front-group-trains-airpo rt-screeners/ The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) has completed training for 2,200 Transportation Safety Officers (TSOs) at the Los Angeles International Airport according to a press release found on the MPAC website. The MPAC release notes that the two-month training course informed officers of "the diversity of Muslims around the world from cultural dress to language to tenets. The four trainers taught the TSOs how to properly handle a Quran and discussed the different ways Muslim women and men choose to cover or dress. For example, the TSOs learned if a woman wears hijab and needs a secondary screening she should be screened in a private area by a female TSO officer." In 1986, MPAC was formed as a political action arm of one of the largest Wahhabi mosques in America, the Islamic Center for Southern California. As the Center for Security Policy's Team B II report entitled "Sharia: The Threat to America" notes, "The founders of the Islamic Center for Southern California are Hassan Hathout and his brother Maher Hathout. The late Hassan Hathout was a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood Movement. The two brothers Maher spent time in an Egyptian prison during the early days of the Muslim Brotherhood's activities there, led by the Brotherhood's founder Hassan Al Banna. MPAC's own publication, The Minaret, has proudly called Hassan a 'companion of' and Maher 'a close disciple of' Brotherhood founder Hassan al Banna." Maher Hathout also founded and is currently a senior advisor for MPAC. He and others at MPAC also currently work for and maintain a close relationship with the Islamic Center of Southern California. Read More: by Connie Hair, Human Events "Invest in beans and bullets, in equal amounts." from the VVATalklist.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 26 #8 December 7, 2010 Quote Another "I'm not a bigot but..." thread. Are you against free speech? You must hate america.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #9 December 7, 2010 QuoteInvest in beans and bullets, in equal amounts. Rice and bullets don't supply all the essential amino acids for a complete protein. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #10 December 7, 2010 Quote Another "I'm not a bigot but..." thread. Another , I have nothing to intelligent to add , so I will insult the person that made the OP , Post! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #11 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteInvest in beans and bullets, in equal amounts. Rice and bullets don't supply all the essential amino acids for a complete protein. Hmm Your diet?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,178 #12 December 7, 2010 I'll discuss the topic. They provided education about Islam to the TSO's. There is less ignorance in the world now. I'll bet that the TSO's already knew how to handle a bible, now they know something about the quran. Some people will still have a hissy fit over things not being done right, some TSO's will have a hissy fit over having to acknowledge that Islam is actually a religion, and the world will continue to spin on its axis. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #13 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteInvest in beans and bullets, in equal amounts. Rice and bullets don't supply all the essential amino acids for a complete protein. Hmm Your diet? I need my roughage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #14 December 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Invest in beans and bullets, in equal amounts. Rice and bullets don't supply all the essential amino acids for a complete protein. Hmm Your diet? I need my roughage. Dont you get enough from your words?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #15 December 7, 2010 QuoteThe four trainers taught the TSOs how to properly handle a Quran and discussed the different ways Muslim women and men choose to cover or dress. For example, the TSOs learned if a woman wears hijab and needs a secondary screening she should be screened in a private area by a female TSO officer." good a little understamding will do everyone some good.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 79 #16 December 7, 2010 Quote"Accept our ways".. "Ignore" them...But the rest of "you" law abidding US citizens, keep taking "your " shoes off, and "you" keep walking threw them scanners, But it is against our way /religion...forget "we" are the poeple blowing up your buildings and planes, Just respect "our " religion and "rights" they matter more than "yours"! Just so I understand your point, should the TSA not respect anyone's personal feelings/beliefs and try to work within them if possible or is it just the Muslims that they should have no respect for?Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #17 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteThe four trainers taught the TSOs how to properly handle a Quran and discussed the different ways Muslim women and men choose to cover or dress. For example, the TSOs learned if a woman wears hijab and needs a secondary screening she should be screened in a private area by a female TSO officer." good a little understamding will do everyone some good. Yes, I agree But why shouldn't eveyone be treated the same?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #18 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe four trainers taught the TSOs how to properly handle a Quran and discussed the different ways Muslim women and men choose to cover or dress. For example, the TSOs learned if a woman wears hijab and needs a secondary screening she should be screened in a private area by a female TSO officer." good a little understamding will do everyone some good. Yes, I agree But why shouldn't eveyone be treated the same? BINGO... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #19 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe four trainers taught the TSOs how to properly handle a Quran and discussed the different ways Muslim women and men choose to cover or dress. For example, the TSOs learned if a woman wears hijab and needs a secondary screening she should be screened in a private area by a female TSO officer." good a little understamding will do everyone some good. Yes, I agree But why shouldn't eveyone be treated the same? BINGO... That is one of the things the libs constantly scream about It should be fair Well One of many things"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,477 #20 December 7, 2010 >There is less ignorance in the world now. I'll bet that the TSO's already >knew how to handle a bible, now they know something about the quran. Agreed. Education will only help them do their jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #21 December 7, 2010 Quote>There is less ignorance in the world now. I'll bet that the TSO's already >knew how to handle a bible, now they know something about the quran. Agreed. Education will only help them do their jobs. Again I agree but Shouldn't all being screened be treated the same? And what is the proper way to handle a bible?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,477 #22 December 7, 2010 >But why shouldn't eveyone be treated the same? Because everyone is not the same. "Take your top off" means something different to a woman than to a man. Agents should understand the difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #23 December 7, 2010 Quote>But why shouldn't eveyone be treated the same? Because everyone is not the same. "Take your top off" means something different to a woman than to a man. Agents should understand the difference. So, a catholic woman does not deserve privacy when being searched, yet a Muslim does? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #24 December 7, 2010 Quote>But why shouldn't eveyone be treated the same? Because everyone is not the same. "Take your top off" means something different to a woman than to a man. Agents should understand the difference. Ah So you are for special preferential treatment of groups people based on ...... well on what? And do you know when the special training for the treatment of Christians was done? But I have to say that you have now admitted you set some people and groups above others I understand many of your view points much better At least the WHY you are for segregation of groups (at least treatment of different groups)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteAs for these particular actions by MPAC, is this really any different from the USPA trying to help educate the TSA about skydiving rigs? Yeah, I'm not seeing anything wrong with it either. What's the issue? The Issue?? "Accept our ways".. "Ignore" them...But the rest of "you" law abidding US citizens, keep taking "your " shoes off, and "you" keep walking threw them scanners, But it is against our way /religion...forget "we" are the poeple blowing up your buildings and planes, Just respect "our " religion and "rights" they matter more than "yours"! Profiling is bad...very baddd...(said in my best Mr. Garrison voice) Liberals are baddddd,,very Baddddd Well that didn't take very longWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites