airdvr 198 #1 May 22, 2010 QuoteDefiant Judge Takes On Child Pornography Law Judge Weinstein, who sits in the United States District Court in Brooklyn, has twice thrown out convictions that would have ensured that the man spend at least five years behind bars. He has pledged to break protocol and inform the next jury about the mandatory prison sentence that the charges carry. And he recently declared that the man, who is awaiting a new trial, did not need an electronic ankle bracelet because he posed “no risk to society.” The man he has spent three years trying to save from a long incarceration is Pietro Polizzi, a married father of five who collected more than 5,000 graphic pictures of children. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/nyregion/22judge.html?pagewanted=1 5,000 pictures?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,646 #2 May 22, 2010 You misquoted the headline. It said nothing about "liberal"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 198 #3 May 22, 2010 Quote You misquoted the headline. It said nothing about "liberal" Check the good judge's resume and get back to me.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #4 May 22, 2010 Some men are born to prefer women. Some are born to prefer other men. Then some are born with a preference for children. It's just nature, right. When did you choose your sexual preference? Isn't that the big defense question? Liberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. You gotta just love what they are doing to the American way of life.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #5 May 22, 2010 QuoteLiberals do not believe Since I am adept at reading your mind, I know that you approve of eating live kittens in front of horrified children. Or maybe I don't have the first fucking idea what it is you think, but just want to demonize with a broad brush because, like wanking, it feels good, and involves a bit of imagination, but very little serious thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 198 #6 May 22, 2010 Drifting pretty quickly here. Seems to me that collecting 5,000 of anything requires some effort.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #7 May 22, 2010 QuoteDrifting pretty quickly here. Seems to me that collecting 5,000 of anything requires some effort. Try collecting 5,000 kittens. It's a bitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #8 May 22, 2010 QuoteQuote You misquoted the headline. It said nothing about "liberal" Check the good judge's resume and get back to me. It wouldn't matter if he did..he could discard it out of hand for the conflict with his own view.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #9 May 22, 2010 QuoteLiberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. I think most of us would agree that sexual _behavior_ requires decisions. But there is a difference between behavior and orientation. There is also a difference between children and consenting adults. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RackJR 0 #10 May 22, 2010 Quote Some men are born to prefer women. Some are born to prefer other men. Then some are born with a preference for children. It's just nature, right. When did you choose your sexual preference? Isn't that the big defense question? You know Ron, reading your post, for a second there I thought you had learned something. Can you quote something from Leviticus for us, about how this guy should be put to death? Probably not. In the time of the bible, they were marrying girls as young as those this man was looking at. The youngest legal age of marriage I could find with a quick search was 13....in the US (special circumstances required=pregnancy). Or Iran, where 9 is ok. I believe the prophet Muhammad married a 6 year old girl, and consummated the marriage at 9. Lest you start throwing stones, we can always talk about Lot and his daughters if you'd prefer christianity. Some is ancient history. Some, current events. Did you read the article Ron? This judge is not arguing that what the man did was acceptable, or legal. He's arguing that he doesn't agree with the mandatory sentence length. Prison terms for looking at pictures that sometimes run longer than those for actually abusing a child. QuoteLiberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. You don't get tired of this one. As I recall, some of the previous arguments have talked about relationships between adults, not children. I guess you don't mind twisting that when it suits your purpose. If the man broke the law, he needs to be punished. This law I'm in full support of. Sounds like this judge deals with this kind of case, and has some experience. You obviously don't mind armchair quarterbacking his decisions. Maybe you missed your calling as a judge, so you could be on the other extreme, and lock them up for life. I might agree with you. They are born this way, and I don't think any amount of therapy is going to fix it. Eventually, I don't think pictures will be enough, and they will harm a child. QuoteYou gotta just love what they are doing to the American way of life. If you read the article, you're being intentionally deceptive. If you didn't, tragically lazy. Or perhaps you agree that the judge should be forced to sentence the man to more time in prison for looking at pictures than if he had actually abused a living child? I would argue for the same term. A child was harmed, either way. Say what you mean. Do what you say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 198 #11 May 22, 2010 Quote Quote Drifting pretty quickly here. Seems to me that collecting 5,000 of anything requires some effort. Try collecting 5,000 kittens. It's a bitch. Or killing them? Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #12 May 22, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Drifting pretty quickly here. Seems to me that collecting 5,000 of anything requires some effort. Try collecting 5,000 kittens. It's a bitch. Or killing them? No, that's pretty easy; you just bite their widdle heads off in front of small children. Now, herding them: that's a bitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,646 #13 May 22, 2010 QuoteSome men are born to prefer women. Some are born to prefer other men. Then some are born with a preference for children. It's just nature, right. When did you choose your sexual preference? Isn't that the big defense question? Liberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. . Seems like GOP senators, governors and congressmen have a pretty good handle on it too. Anyone for a hike on the Appalachian Trail?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 May 22, 2010 QuoteQuote You misquoted the headline. It said nothing about "liberal" Check the good judge's resume and get back to me. Check his resume? Hell, check his computer! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #15 May 23, 2010 QuoteQuoteSome men are born to prefer women. Some are born to prefer other men. Then some are born with a preference for children. It's just nature, right. When did you choose your sexual preference? Isn't that the big defense question? Liberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. . Seems like GOP senators, governors and congressmen have a pretty good handle on it too. Well, two wrongs do make a right. Thank you for pointing that out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 198 #16 May 23, 2010 Quote Seems like GOP senators, governors and congressmen have a pretty good handle on it too. We're talking about child porn here. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. An 88 year-old liberal judge thinks a 5 year minimum sentence is too harsh for a man who managed to collect 5,000 kiddie porn pics on his computer? I think he might be getting senile.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #17 May 23, 2010 Quote Quote Seems like GOP senators, governors and congressmen have a pretty good handle on it too. We're talking about child porn here. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. An 88 year-old liberal judge thinks a 5 year minimum sentence is too harsh for a man who managed to collect 5,000 kiddie porn pics on his computer? I think he might be getting senile. Or sympathetic for reasons of likeness and understanding.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #18 May 23, 2010 Quote serious thinking. Since thinking is accomplished in the mind which is one-third of the soul, emotions and will being the other two-thirds, I can assume that the condition of one's soul accurately determines the seriousness of one's thinking.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #19 May 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Seems like GOP senators, governors and congressmen have a pretty good handle on it too. We're talking about child porn here. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. An 88 year-old liberal judge thinks a 5 year minimum sentence is too harsh for a man who managed to collect 5,000 kiddie porn pics on his computer? I think he might be getting senile. Or sympathetic for reasons of likeness and understanding. Obviously... the good judge does not seem to understand that a child sexual predator cannot be helped, fixed or cured. If anything, the judge should've extended the guy's sentence. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARK 0 #20 May 23, 2010 QuoteSome men are born to prefer women. Some are born to prefer other men. Then some are born with a preference for children. It's just nature, right. When did you choose your sexual preference? Isn't that the big defense question? Liberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. You gotta just love what they are doing to the American way of life. QuoteQuote serious thinking. Since thinking is accomplished in the mind which is one-third of the soul, emotions and will being the other two-thirds, I can assume that the condition of one's soul accurately determines the seriousness of one's thinking. i seriously cant believe what i am reading sometimes i despair for america and its backward minority Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #21 May 24, 2010 Dumbest statement in this article: "And he recently declared that the man, who is awaiting a new trial, did not need an electronic ankle bracelet because he posed “no risk to society." And conservatives want him to wear an electronic ankle bracelet because it would keep him from . . . surfing the net? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #22 May 24, 2010 Quote Liberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. It's amazing how you've allowed yourself to be a mouthpiece for propaganda and hatred. Tell me, WWJD?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #23 May 24, 2010 QuoteTell me, WWJD? Probably something along his reaction to the moneychangers in the temple. Jesus on Earth was kind and forgiving-he wasn't a wuss.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,646 #24 May 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteSome men are born to prefer women. Some are born to prefer other men. Then some are born with a preference for children. It's just nature, right. When did you choose your sexual preference? Isn't that the big defense question? Liberals do not believe sexual behavior requires decisions beyond immediate gratification. . Seems like GOP senators, governors and congressmen have a pretty good handle on it too. Well, two wrongs do make a right. Thank you for pointing that out. Ummm NO, two wrongs make a wrong. However, many GOP supporters who post here seem to think that what their heroes say cancels out what they do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #25 May 24, 2010 QuoteQuote serious thinking. Since thinking is accomplished in the mind which is one-third of the soul, emotions and will being the other two-thirds, I can assume that the condition of one's soul accurately determines the seriousness of one's thinking. So I suppose I'm seriously going to Hell. Whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites