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jakee 1,257
QuoteYeah, you skimmed - it points out that Obama got MUCH more coverage than a similar trip by McCain in March.
McCain went travelling while Obama and Hillary were still fighting tooth and nail in the Dem primary, and at about the same time as the Obama/Wright scandal broke out. That's big news to fight against for air time. What McCain campaign drama has Obama's trip had to contend with?
Also, were the two trips equal in what they achieved? CNN says Obama spoke to a crowd of 200,000 - what was McCain's biggest audience?
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteYeah, you skimmed - it points out that Obama got MUCH more coverage than a similar trip by McCain in March.
McCain went travelling while Obama and Hillary were still fighting tooth and nail in the Dem primary, and at about the same time as the Obama/Wright scandal broke out. That's big news to fight against for air time. What McCain campaign drama has Obama's trip had to contend with?
Also, were the two trips equal in what they achieved? CNN says Obama spoke to a crowd of 200,000 - what was McCain's biggest audience?
Try again, jakee - the comparison is between Oboma's trip to the M.E / Europe and McCains trip to the M.E. / Europe.
Reporting by big media has CREATED an unequal playing field - unless you can show me where the main anchors of the big 3 agencies accompanied McCain on his trip...or refered to him as a "super star" or other accolades, maybe a 'tingle up the leg" or something.
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jakee 1,257
QuoteTry again, jakee - the comparison is between Oboma's trip to the M.E / Europe and McCains trip to the M.E. / Europe.
What the hell do you think I just did?
Quoteunless you can show me where the main anchors of the big 3 agencies accompanied McCain on his trip
When McCain went abroad the news channels still had an incredibly close fought primary campaign to report on at home, when Obama went abroad they had... what?
You may be right that the media react differently to McCain than to Obama, but you simply cannot ignore the context when making accusations of bias. Trying to contend that Obama and McCain's trips were exactly as newsworthy as each other without considering a) what happened during the respective trips and b) what related news was happening at the same time is just dumb.
mnealtx 0
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It's quite clear that Obama simply deserves more coverage from unbiased media.
Too bad there's not any - unbiased media, that is.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteTry again, jakee - the comparison is between Oboma's trip to the M.E / Europe and McCains trip to the M.E. / Europe.
What the hell do you think I just did?
No. Compare the two trips to the Middle East to each other, not to what the other candidate was doing at the time.
QuoteQuoteunless you can show me where the main anchors of the big 3 agencies accompanied McCain on his trip
When McCain went abroad the news channels still had an incredibly close fought primary campaign to report on at home, when Obama went abroad they had... what?
That would be when Chris Matthews was getting the 'tingle up his leg' and the news anchors were referring to Obama as a 'superstar', yes? Thanks for proving my point.
QuoteYou may be right that the media react differently to McCain than to Obama, but you simply cannot ignore the context when making accusations of bias. Trying to contend that Obama and McCain's trips were exactly as newsworthy as each other without considering a) what happened during the respective trips and b) what related news was happening at the same time is just dumb.
Gee, I suppose you're right - after all, with casualty counts dropping steadily in Iraq, the press didn't really have anything to report that they could use to beat the administration with, so I guess that reporting on the Democratic candidate's campaigns WAS much more important than reporting on the Republican candidate's campaign.
Oh, wait... that's SOP. Sorry, sorry... carry on!
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteTry again, jakee - the comparison is between Oboma's trip to the M.E / Europe and McCains trip to the M.E. / Europe.
What the hell do you think I just did?
No. Compare the two trips to the Middle East to each other, not to what the other candidate was doing at the time.
you can't do this. This isn't a lab experiment where you can control for extraneous variables. In the real world, the media sells itself. Since McCain's campaign was locked up early, stories about him became pretty unnewsworthy fast, while the Bro and Ho campaign stayed tight to the end. This is one downside to the GOP's winner take all allocation model. (the upshot is they end the infighting early).
Media upstaging as a planned event has long been part of the game as well. Why do you think McCain went to German restaurants while Obama was in ACTUAL Germany? It was a half assed attempt to ride the coattails. Didn't work nearly so well as hoped, either.
Getting coverage is part of the campaign and I don't think McCain's people have a clue.
As for Obama vs. McCain - I forgot that it's common practice for all three of the network anchors to follow the candidates abroad on their trips. How could I have forgotten the sight of Kouric, Williams and Gibson, kevlar in hand, slavishly following McCain around the Middle East and Europe earlier this year and singing hosannas in his name? Maybe because it never happened?
They don't refute that Obama drawing a crowd in Berlin is more newsworthy than McCain stumping at a grocery store, and neither do I. They are saying (and I agree) that Obama is being reported on as the heir presumptive (so to speak). You can't run a successful campaign without news coverage, and boy, is he getting it (and in an overwhelmingly good light, as well).
Dude - you have Jon Stewart saying "Of course, after a quick meet-and-greet with King Abdullah, Obama was off to Israel, where he made a quick stop at the manger in Bethlehem where he was born". That *should* be a clue, right there.
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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