Amazon 7 #101 February 14, 2008 Quote over-indulgent, fat-assed society. OK Mister.. we shall NOT be talking about my fat ass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #102 February 14, 2008 At least you're out there collecting up your own meat supplies. There's a lot to be said for that over buying it from the animal death camp sources. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #103 February 14, 2008 Moderation and seasonal foods. Eat the same diet everyday of your life and your healh will suffer just as badly as your taste buds will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #104 February 14, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will always eat meat, but I do make sure the animals are raised and slaughtered humanely. That's like saying if a pedophile captures and cares for little girls as he mollests them, he's humane. HUmane raising of animals fo slaughter is a gross contradiction. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>edit to add: For what it is worth....the packing plants kill the animals much more humanely than wild foxes, coyotes and bobcats do. Just food for thought. 1) So you want to compare the humanity of an animal to yourself? 2) Coyotes have to eat meat to live, you do not, you eat it by choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #105 February 14, 2008 Some prehistoric predecessors to modern-day humans ate no animal products. We can live away from meat, I'm proof of that. Veg for 20+ years, not anemic. Meat is a choice, you decide that taste is worth an animals life; go deal with your conscience on your own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #106 February 14, 2008 QuoteCoyotes have to eat meat to live, you do not, you eat it by choice. For some reason, tearing a chicken apart appeals to me more than grazing does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #107 February 14, 2008 QuoteSome prehistoric predecessors to modern-day humans ate no animal products. We can live away from meat, I'm proof of that. Veg for 20+ years, not anemic. Meat is a choice, you decide that taste is worth an animals life; go deal with your conscience on your own. Yep, and I'll sleep soundly. Probably have bacon as part of my breakfast, probably with eggs and pork & beans. Yum!Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #108 February 14, 2008 QuoteWe can live away from meat, I'm proof of that. Veg for 20+ years, not anemic. Meat is a choice, you decide that taste is worth an animals life; go deal with your conscience on your own. Have you found your peaceful, happy center yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #109 February 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteWe can live away from meat, I'm proof of that. Veg for 20+ years, not anemic. Meat is a choice, you decide that taste is worth an animals life; go deal with your conscience on your own. Have you found your peaceful, happy center yet? Hahahaha!Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #110 February 14, 2008 Quote Some prehistoric predecessors to modern-day humans ate no animal products. We can live away from meat, I'm proof of that. Veg for 20+ years, not anemic. Meat is a choice, you decide that taste is worth an animals life; go deal with your conscience on your own. Yep, proof alright. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #111 February 14, 2008 Quote In an effort to keep this thread from heading to SC (yeah right... )... I'm a vegetarian. However, I stopped eating meat mainly for health reasons. It's amazing how telling someone you need/want to eat healthy means almost nothing to them, but as soon as you are a "vegetarian" it's like you're a "special needs" person and they'll cater to your request. Trust me, I get my fair share of heckling and teasing - I'll probably get it here. I could go into a looonnngggg drawn out decision about this, but I won't. Hands down - animal protein is NOT good for you, and after watching that clip - inhumane animal treatment is working its way up the list of reasons why I choose to be a vegetarian... ... please, let the teasing begin. The one soclice I have and the one that the butchered animals get is that with red meat and pork the consumers of those meats get to die early and often suffer toward the end. It is plain crule to decide that an animal's life is worth a meal. The beauty is that the hatred will fly, but that only reinforces my contention that meat eater's conscience bothers them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #112 February 14, 2008 No you just bother us, there is a distinct difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #113 February 14, 2008 QuoteNo where in nature ... are herbivores at the top of the food chain... And think.. Morlocks...and Eloi Which were the vegetarians??? No where in history has a nerd like Bill Gates been an alpha male either, yet he is. Forget about conventional evolution, we've bastardized it for good...that is, until nature decides she's done with us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #114 February 14, 2008 Quote Pork chops, ribs, pork roast, bacon... like it comes from a single animal. RIGGGHHHTTT, some wonderful, MAGICAL animal produces all that good meat ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #115 February 14, 2008 Quote I'm a life long hunter and have lost count of the number of animals I have killed and cleaned, the video didn't really phase me at all. I kept waiting for the shocking part in that video and it never came. Criminal socialists everywhere are gasping with fear at that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #116 February 14, 2008 Quote Quote I'm a life long hunter and have lost count of the number of animals I have killed and cleaned, the video didn't really phase me at all. I kept waiting for the shocking part in that video and it never came. Exactly, I abhor animal cruelty in any form, but responsible harvesting and eating of meat is fine by me. That's the same thing Dahmer said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #117 February 14, 2008 Were you two "friends" or something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,405 #118 February 14, 2008 >i do not want to live in world without burgers, bacon and bbq. As long as you accept the consequences - that's fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,405 #119 February 14, 2008 > but this is one example of society not really thinking the issues > out before they run off to try and solve the latest "popular" problems of > the day. Agreed. Hopefully this will lead people to think twice before wasting fuel. There is now a real human cost to be paid for buying that Escalade instead of that Civic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #120 February 14, 2008 Exactly Bill, we all choose our own fates, and yet there should not be anyone to compel us to do as they want us to when it comes to diet, personal beliefs, or lifetyle, as long as it is not harming someone else directly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #121 February 14, 2008 Quote Criminal socialists everywhere are gasping with fear at that. what percentage of socialists are criminals? "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #122 February 14, 2008 Quote Quote Does this clip make you want to become a vegetarian? or stop eating fast food? I voted yes, though I've been a vegetarian for 4-5 years now. And I'm a much heathier and happier person for making the change. Plus, it's sort of nice knowing I am no longer a significant contributor to the incomprehensibly vast amount of animal suffering that occurs thanks to our fat-assed, unhealthy nation's lust for meat. "Responsible" meat eating is fine by me, but it sure is disgusting seeing so many people right in this thread make light of such a large scale problem in terms of animal suffering. It's the height of low compassion and unenlightenment. Great post, I generally agree. >>>>>>>>>>>>I voted yes, though I've been a vegetarian for 4-5 years now. And I'm a much heathier and happier person for making the change. I have absolutely no problem thinking of lifelong human carnivoires suffering at 50-60 as their asshole rots out. Then comes the colostomy bag..... I just gotta thinking they were some of the guys/gals joking about how cute it is to sacrifice several animal's lives becuase they enjoy the taste; rationalize it as need. Aren't most serial killers those who enjoy killing animals as kids? Thngs that make ya go Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. If these people had to look in the face and pet these defenseless cretures, well, most would quit eating them. Fortunately slaughter hiuses are well locked and closed to the public, as that is their lifeline. If they offered tours they would lose a lot of business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #123 February 14, 2008 QuoteNo. I love meat. Remember, I eat my meat when it's dead. Vegetarians eat fruits and vegetables while they are still alive Brilliance; comparing a carrot to a cow...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #124 February 14, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Please explain why not. I'm curious to hear this, too. Don't hold your breath for a reasonable response. IMO, a society that elected to opt out of meat eating for the sake of better health, cleaner environment, and less animal suffering would be taking a big step UP the "food chain". Esp considering the amount of resource that goes into meat. Clearing fields, growing corn, methane, etc, etc.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #125 February 14, 2008 Quote http://privateofficerbreakingnews.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/possible-mad-cow-diseased-beef-found-in-atlanta-area-schools-wwwprivateofficercom/ Mad Cow diseased beef found in Atlanta schools today. Yum Yum Damn shame. SOmetimes meat eates don't get to wait until 50 to have their arteries harden and their asshole plug up...... nature is kind.... sometimes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
