Amazon 7 #26 February 13, 2008 Go rent the original Time Machine by HG Wells.. the 1960 version Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 February 13, 2008 The one you posted about predatory animals.. while the puppy pics are very cute... have you ever seen how THEY kill THEIR FOOD.......I have... and I am not talking about watching it on National Geographic. I have travelled to places where man is not necessarily at the top of the food chain Seeing an apex predator... only a few scant yards from you with no fences and only the weapon you are carrying between him and you being FOOD... is an interesting.... bone chilling experience. Nature really is one hell of a bitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #28 February 13, 2008 Quote Nature really is one hell of a bitch There is no humanity in nature Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #29 February 13, 2008 to be honest, I have been lacking in meat consumption lately, eating too much carbs, and those videos made me really hungry, and made my mouth water.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auburnguy 0 #30 February 13, 2008 I'm a life long hunter and have lost count of the number of animals I have killed and cleaned, the video didn't really phase me at all. I kept waiting for the shocking part in that video and it never came."If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #31 February 13, 2008 Quote I agree I was sadden by the clip however......... that was probably more due to the emotive music and the juxtoposistion of new born animals with in the 2nd clip. yeah there's a balanced view point for us to considerYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #32 February 13, 2008 Quote No where in nature ... are herbivores at the top of the food chain... Food chain. Pseudo-science for simple minds. Humans are the dominant species on Earth (as far as we know ) for the simple reasons that we've got decent-sized brains and are good with our hands. It has nothing to do with what great hunters we are - in fact scavengers typically fair much better than alpha-hunters in the evolution of life. And humans are pretty good scavengers. Take humans out of the equation. Gorillas don't have any natural predators - they are vegetarians. Elephants - no natural predators - vegetarians. Sure, a few scavengers will take babies of any species, or a hungry carnivore will eat an already dead mammal, or even kill a severely weakened one. That doesn't make the carnivore higher on the "food chain", any more than it makes worms higher than humans because they'll eat your rotting corpse. Species dominance and eating habits are simply not related.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonix 0 #33 February 13, 2008 QuoteDoes this clip make you want to become a vegetarian? or stop eating fast food? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTpZJSDRf6s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb-uFnl5MOw&feature=related First one makes me want a burger. Second one is pure propaganda, and I've grown pretty immune to such. So I still want a burger. What actually makes me want to eat less meat is the environmental issues with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 122 #34 February 13, 2008 NO. I can't stand the screaming from the lettuce head when you slowly peel off each layer, like ripping arms off. Give one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtested 0 #35 February 13, 2008 I'm lovin it.... that is why there are so many fat americans.... more on junk food then education.... says it all!!!! I am curious as to why these food prosessing places are ok to continue hiring iliegal immigrants.. corupttion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #36 February 13, 2008 QuoteI'm lovin it.... that is why there are so many fat americans.... more on junk food then education.... says it all!!!! I am curious as to why these food prosessing places are ok to continue hiring iliegal immOgrants.. corupttionYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hungarianchick 0 #37 February 13, 2008 Growing up in Hungary we raised and slaughtered our own pigs, chicken and sheep so I voted no. The only difference was that those animals were free to run around on grass and fed corn. There is no reason to treat animals inhumanely. "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #38 February 13, 2008 Quote Go rent the original Time Machine by HG Wells.. the 1960 version Well, you could read the book instead.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #39 February 13, 2008 I voted no. Do I think things could be done better? YES Do I think people should not eat meat? NO Do I think it is a very bad thing to waste meat by throwing it away when an animal has died in order for us to eat? Hell Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #40 February 13, 2008 Quote I'm a life long hunter and have lost count of the number of animals I have killed and cleaned, the video didn't really phase me at all. I kept waiting for the shocking part in that video and it never came. Exactly, I abhor animal cruelty in any form, but responsible harvesting and eating of meat is fine by me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #41 February 13, 2008 QuoteI abhor animal cruelty in any form, but responsible harvesting and eating of meat is fine by me. Yep. What happens to an animal after it's dead doesn't matter to the animal any more. Just don't throw out parts and pieces, and treat it respectfully (quality of life) before it's dead. Free range eggs & meat. Hunting is fine. Environmentally conscious farming. Meat is fine. But, well, I probably eat more veggies because I like them, too. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #42 February 13, 2008 Nope I like meat, enjoy hunting, making my own sausage. What does bother me is really bad spelling... "The majority of these victims are untrained, exploited immogrants" "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #43 February 13, 2008 QuoteI abhor animal cruelty in any form, but responsible harvesting and eating of meat is fine by me. Since you abhor animal cruelty, do you only eat such meat which has been "harvested responsibly". What is your definition of "responsible harvesting"? The irony is I agree with your statement (so long as your definition of "responsible harvesting" equals mine) and thus I choose to limit what & how much meat and/or animal products I will eat and am rather picky about where said products come from.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DontPanic 0 #44 February 13, 2008 Counting me, there are as many posts regarding the spelling of "immogrants" as there are votes for becoming a vegetarian. Hhhmmmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 February 13, 2008 Quote Well, you could read the book instead. Uh Professor.. this IS SPEAKERS CORNER I went with the medium that they might actually try Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #46 February 13, 2008 Quote Exactly, I abhor animal cruelty in any form Excellent. You obviously NEVER meat eat at restaurants or fast food places, and carefuly select your meat choices at markets, or hunt your own. Good man! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #47 February 13, 2008 Quote Quote Well, you could read the book instead. Uh Professor.. this IS SPEAKERS CORNER I went with the medium that they might actually try i was actually think of reading the book instead before john suggested it. that's twice in 2 days we've been in agreement. something very strange is going on here. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #48 February 13, 2008 QuoteDoes this clip make you want to become a vegetarian? or stop eating fast food? I voted yes, though I've been a vegetarian for 4-5 years now. And I'm a much heathier and happier person for making the change. Plus, it's sort of nice knowing I am no longer a significant contributor to the incomprehensibly vast amount of animal suffering that occurs thanks to our fat-assed, unhealthy nation's lust for meat. "Responsible" meat eating is fine by me, but it sure is disgusting seeing so many people right in this thread make light of such a large scale problem in terms of animal suffering. It's the height of low compassion and unenlightenment. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #49 February 13, 2008 Quote It's the height of low compassion and unenlightenment. In my life the greatest hostility from another I've been on the receiving end of is always related to my meat & dairy restrictions. It baffles me the mere knowledge of this choice of mine quite literally offends some people. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #50 February 13, 2008 Quote Quote Well, you could read the book instead. Uh Professor.. this IS SPEAKERS CORNER I went with the medium that they might actually try Are you trying to say that we have short atten.... hey, look!!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
