Amazon 7 #51 February 13, 2008 I think for many 90 minutes is even a little too long oh look a shiny thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #52 February 13, 2008 Why read the book when the movie is over in less than two hours and then I can take a nap? (paraphrased from comedian Jim Gaffigan.) Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #53 February 13, 2008 Right.. my point exactly... although reading the book picks FAR more commentary and nuance than the movie EVER had in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lastchance 0 #54 February 13, 2008 No. I love meat. Remember, I eat my meat when it's dead. Vegetarians eat fruits and vegetables while they are still alive I may be getting old but I got to see all the cool bands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #55 February 13, 2008 We buy beef from my friends mother, who raises the cattle on her farm, free roaming and grass/clover fed, spring water to drink. We know the meat locker they are sent to, they are like minded people who are really ticked off about the large corporate kill houses and their unethical practices. A CNS kill is the only way that death is intantaneous. I hunt, and almost 100% of the time it is one shot, one kill. I try my best, and use an adequate weapon for the job, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #56 February 13, 2008 We rarely ever eat at restaurants, it is expensive, and not very good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #57 February 13, 2008 We did not as a species climb to the top of the food chain to suddenly opt out of eating meat...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #58 February 13, 2008 I thought from the thread title this was about a haircut. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #59 February 13, 2008 QuoteWe did not as a species climb to the top of the food chain to suddenly opt out of eating meat... Please explain why not. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #61 February 13, 2008 Very well, then. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #62 February 13, 2008 Quote MMMM Popcorn A tasty bowl of Pebbles 'n Twigs is a perfect way to start the day -- just ask Euell Giibbons. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #63 February 13, 2008 Quote We rarely ever eat at restaurants, it is expensive, and not very good. At the risk of sending this feel-good thread to Bonfire, I have to agree. I LOVE dining out and used to all the time. As we became pickier and pickier about where our food came from and better and better at preparing it with fresh, natural ingredients it became completely clear why someone would make a statement such as yours. I never understood before how anyone would think Carrabbas anything but delicioso! Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #64 February 13, 2008 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We did not as a species climb to the top of the food chain to suddenly opt out of eating meat... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please explain why not. I'm curious to hear this, too. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #65 February 13, 2008 Quote A tasty bowl of Pebbles 'n Twigs is a perfect way to start the day -- just ask Euell Giibbons Carefull that could get the radical geologists and the tree huggers after you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #66 February 13, 2008 Quote Quote Please explain why not. I'm curious to hear this, too. Don't hold your breath for a reasonable response. IMO, a society that elected to opt out of meat eating for the sake of better health, cleaner environment, and less animal suffering would be taking a big step UP the "food chain". . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #67 February 13, 2008 http://privateofficerbreakingnews.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/possible-mad-cow-diseased-beef-found-in-atlanta-area-schools-wwwprivateofficercom/ Mad Cow diseased beef found in Atlanta schools today. Yum Yum _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lastchance 0 #68 February 13, 2008 I have at times in my life cooked in a few up scale resterants and know the quality of the food that CAN come out of the kitchen. My policy was that I would never send out a meal that I wasn't prepared to eat myself. That being said I have to agree with you. It seems that everytime my wife and I go out for dinner I end up sorely dissapointed in either the food or the service which pisses me off to no end. I figure that if I'm going to pay somebody my hard earned cash to cook for me it better come out the way I want it. I also have no problem at all sending it back. If the service sucks, so does their tip. If the service and the food are resonably acceptable, then the cook and the server will get a tip and the cook will also get kudos. We recently went out and as the waitress passed our table she just kind of tossed our silverware onto the table and it slid right off the other side. We kinda slid right out the door. I may be getting old but I got to see all the cool bands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #69 February 13, 2008 QuoteIMO, a society that elected to opt out of meat eating for the sake of better health, cleaner environment, and less animal suffering would be taking a big step UP the "food chain". I elect to "opt out of meat" most of the time because of the status quo (from every angle). For me, however, I would think it "a step UP the 'food chain'" to simply implement a better (and more humane) system. On a related but separate note: At the risk of sounding defeatist, I don't foresee a vegetarian society on the horizon. In fact I've discovered it to be one of the most obvious, yet more difficult, things to implement change due to the chosen ignorance. I've learned many (most?) people just do NOT want to hear about how their food gets to them. Right or wrong, they want their fast-food burgers. And even those that admit it's atrocious on how that burger might get to them (and for so cheap), they're not willing to give it up, and instead convince themselves it's an isolated incident and can't possibly be "the norm". It's a difficult battle, admittedly. I myself use the "every little bit counts" approach. And I believe it does. Hell, I'd be happy if someone who eats meat breakfast, lunch, and dinner decides to trade just one of their current meat products for one that is "certified humane" (not the holy grail, but a step in the right direction), "no antibiotics" and "free-range".Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #70 February 13, 2008 Quote We buy beef from my friends mother, who raises the cattle on her farm, free roaming and grass/clover fed, spring water to drink. We know the meat locker they are sent to, they are like minded people who are really ticked off about the large corporate kill houses and their unethical practices. A CNS kill is the only way that death is intantaneous. I hunt, and almost 100% of the time it is one shot, one kill. I try my best, and use an adequate weapon for the job, I'm with the Vandal on this one - besides, imagine: no more Vension. No more KFC. Whoppers! Roast Lamb. Square sausages. Simple and well cooked rabbit. The list of delicious food is endless! At the risk of sounding dramatic, I'd rather be dead than be a veggie. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,380 #71 February 13, 2008 >At the risk of sounding defeatist, I don't foresee a vegetarian society on the horizon. I don't either. However, we will get significantly more vegetarian as 1) people start realizing how much longer they will live if they cut down on the burgers, bacon and barbeque 2) we start running short of energy/space/water to grow all that meat. Right now you can eat meat and not have ten other people starve to death. That will not always be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #72 February 13, 2008 Quote However, we will get significantly more vegetarian... I agree. But even for me #1 is not even on my list for why I "cut down" on meat & animal products. I want a great quality of life while I'm here. I have no desire, however, to be here for more than a century. But, that's neither here nor there. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #73 February 13, 2008 Quote No more KFC. I actually heaved slightly when you got to that one. Blech!!! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #74 February 13, 2008 Impossible! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #75 February 13, 2008 I just had a nice 10 oz sirloin for dinner, with baked beans and a salad. Damn it was good.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
