br0k3n 0 #1 July 5, 2007 Just wondering, anyone know???----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,400 #2 July 5, 2007 http://www.cracked.com/img/articles/spinoff/jesus.jpg"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #3 July 5, 2007 QuoteJust wondering, anyone know??? Sure... Like a 1st Century Jew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #4 July 5, 2007 QuoteQuoteJust wondering, anyone know??? Sure... Like a 1st Century Jew. So white Caucasian, long hair and a beard? Anyway in an attempt to settle this, I read the bible, oh hmm wierd, there is no description of Jesus’ ethnicity or physical appearance in the Bible. And it would seem that no one has ever uncovered any drawings or paintings of Him made while He was alive. In fact it would seem the first pictures of Jesus came hundreds of years after His death, by artisans commissioned by the white Roman Catholic Church,----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #5 July 5, 2007 Sure. Why not. Long hair, nearly blonde, blue eyes, chiseled, tiny nose, long neck, and lotsa forehead. Every Mormon church in the world has this picture in it, so this is what he must have looked like. Seriously, how many depictions of him are there? Thousands? One of them has *got* to be close to the real deal, just based on numbers alone. Course', he's The Christ. He can appear however he wants. Some think he looks like George Bush. Check this picture out, as he looks like a Hollywood star. Damn...must be weird worshiping/idolizing someone who could pass you on the street and you'd have no clue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #6 July 5, 2007 The Shroud of Turin, believed to be the burial shroud of Jesus, has a pretty good likeness of His face, if it was Him..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #7 July 5, 2007 See attached. Via a forensic anthropological analysis by a scientist at the University of Manchester. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 July 5, 2007 looks like Osama Bin Laden... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #9 July 5, 2007 Well, he was born in the middle east.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 July 5, 2007 Quote Well, he was born in the middle east.. That's true... for what its worth, the conventional image of Jesus Christ as seen in pictures in churches or some bibles, just doesn't strike me as being... how do you say it... "****" correct... I've had several beers and the word just isn't coming to me... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #11 July 5, 2007 QuoteWell, he was born in the middle east.. "Allegedly"----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #12 July 5, 2007 QuoteSee attached. Via a forensic anthropological analysis by a scientist at the University of Manchester. Come on Bill, all this shows is that "IF" christ "actually" existed then this "Might" be what he looked like.. it could be the face of anyone from 1st century middle east...----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpozzoli 0 #13 July 5, 2007 Quote The Shroud of Turin, previously believed to be the burial shroud of Jesus, has a pretty good likeness of His face, if it was Him... Fixed it for you . The Sacra Sindone has being shown through carbon dating to be a medieval fake, although it is still unclear how it was actually made. Cheers, Vale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #14 July 5, 2007 i believe it was a black woman! she might have a beard tough.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #15 July 5, 2007 Busy Oli? CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #16 July 5, 2007 Like Ryoder.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 July 5, 2007 Actually it says in the Bible that he had hair like lambs wool.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #18 July 5, 2007 Quote Like Ryoder. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #19 July 5, 2007 A Semitic Caucasian. Which is why depictions of Christ in modern society give me the creeps. "Graven images", are not to be worshipped...mh . "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #20 July 5, 2007 Quote A Semitic Caucasian. Which is why depictions of Christ in modern society give me the creeps. "Graven images", are not to be worshipped...mh . Why does it give you the creeps? Christianity is a pagan religion (although Christians hate to admit that and absolutely insist that it is monotheistic). Humbling oneself before graven images is perfectly acceptable practice in pagan religions, and has been for millenia. Perhaps it's something you should try getting comfortable with. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #21 July 5, 2007 QuoteSo white Caucasian, long hair and a beard? No... Not really. He looked exactly like a 1st century Jew. QuoteAnyway in an attempt to settle this, I read the bible, oh hmm wierd, there is no description of Jesus’ ethnicity or physical appearance in the Bible. You read the entire Bible in an attempt to settle this? I wish I was that good. You didn't get His ethinicity from your reading? When & where He was born, how he was raised, his entire blood line, etc. Also, why in the world would the color of his hair or eyes or how brown his skin was be important at all? QuoteAnd it would seem that no one has ever uncovered any drawings or paintings of Him made while He was alive. Eye-witness recorded accounts aren't good enough but a painting would be? QuoteIn fact it would seem the first pictures of Jesus came hundreds of years after His death, by artisans commissioned by the white Roman Catholic Church, What have the misrepresentations by the "white" Roman Catholic Church got to do with anything? That sounds a bit racist and bigoted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #22 July 5, 2007 like this??You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #23 July 5, 2007 QuoteWhy does it give you the creeps? Christianity is a pagan religion (although Christians hate to admit that and absolutely insist that it is monotheistic). Humbling oneself before graven images is perfectly acceptable practice in pagan religions, and has been for millenia. Perhaps it's something you should try getting comfortable with. The concepts in the New Testament were not derived out of thin air. Amos 3:7 says, "Surely the Lord God does nothing unless He reveals His secret counsel to His servants the prophets." What is mentioned in the New Testament is revealed in the Old Testament either clearly or in types and figures. Gen. 22 is a great example of the sacrifice of Jesus, the Son in Typology represented by the sacrifice of Isaac. Some critics of Christianity state that Christianity borrowed its concepts from pagan sources like Mitrha, Osiris, Apollonius, etc. Admittedly, there are similarities in some pagan religions with Christianity, but that does not mean Christian writers borrowed from them any more than similarities between Communism and Democracy mean one is from another. Similarities abound in many religions. Hinduism has moral statements similar to Christianity as does Taoism. But they are unrelated to each other. There are, however, several reasons working against the idea that the people who wrote the New Testament copied ideas from pagan myths. First of all, the writers of the New Testament were Jews. As Jews they would have nothing to do with paganism in any form. They knew specifically that Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament which is why they followed Him. Second, the Old Testament has almost all the New Testament themes from which a devout Jew would refer when writing the New Testament. Third, there is no proof at all that the New Testament writers borrowed from pagan sources and incorporated them into the New Testament. It is up to the critics to supply reasonable evidence for this if they want to hold the position. Just saying it happened doesn't mean anything. Fourth, so what if there are similarities? What does it prove? If two writers in the same city both write similar articles about the President of the U.S., does it mean one used another's concepts? Not at all. Similarities happen all the time when dealing with similar subjects. Besides, it makes sense that common themes would be around an area at the same time in history when all nations served various gods. Undoubtedly, some similarities will occur, but that doesn't mean one was borrowed from another. Finally, there is another possibility worth examining. The concepts of redemption, the incarnation, resurrection, etc., are prophesied in the Old Testament and these documents were around for hundreds and hundreds of years. It is quite possible that if any borrowing was done, it was done by the pagans who incorporated Old Testament concepts since these documents existed prior to many of these pagan myths. Nevertheless, following is a chart that exemplifies many of the themes that were revealed in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New. It is easy to see that there is no need at all for the Christians to borrow from any source outside the Old Testament. Are the New Testament themes found in the Old Testament? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #24 July 5, 2007 Quote like this?? That's a pretty good likeness of J (thanatos340). "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #25 July 5, 2007 I was referring to something more apparent: the trinity. 3 != 1. Look up the Council of Nicaea -- what you believe is the result of a vote that the emperor Constantine organized. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
