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Why not work out a deal with Mexico where Farmers and large Agricultural Companies from the US would start buying up land in Mexico and employ Mexican Laborers? Seems to be a fairly simple solution.
QuoteWhy not work out a deal with Mexico where Farmers and large Agricultural Companies from the US would start buying up land in Mexico and employ Mexican Laborers? Seems to be a fairly simple solution.
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Why, don't we just annex Mexico!
Then, we'd get all their oil, too. Back in the 50's and 60's, we had the 'Brazero System'. Migrant workers could be hired by farmers. When the season was over, the workers, went back to Mexico. In Sprin, they would return. Farmers had to supply housing and toilet facilities. That worked fairly well till the program was ended.
Chuck
QuoteWhy not work out a deal with Mexico where Farmers and large Agricultural Companies from the US would start buying up land in Mexico and employ Mexican Laborers? Seems to be a fairly simple solution.
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QuoteQuoteWhy not work out a deal with Mexico where Farmers and large Agricultural Companies from the US would start buying up land in Mexico and employ Mexican Laborers? Seems to be a fairly simple solution.
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Darius11 12
I totally agree with you.
I used to work for a landscaping company when I was back in college. The guys I worked with were all illegal, but I can see why my boss hired them. It wasn’t the pay we all got the same pay about 12 bucks an hour. Witch for me was awesome.
The reason we were hired was we worked hard we took our job seriously and we didn’t bitch. I think with American workers you also get a since of entitlement that comes along with them.
If they don’t get their full half-hour lunch one-day you hear them bitch or they want something in return.
I think the foreigners appreciate the opportunity to work and bitch a lot less. I also worked with an All-American group that was a union and was told to slow my work and take more brakes or I would be fired.
No one is taking the jobs from US citizens they either don’t want the hard work or don’t need it.
My boss at the time hired me on the spot he was trilled to have a worker who spoke the language. I am sure if there were an American who wanted the job they would have been first pick.
As per Immigration I don’t know what the answer is. I applied for my green card threw my mother when I was 9 I became a citizen last year. My green card took 11.9 years. Immigration has a way taking their time. Usually when they say something will take 3 years it will take 6 if you’re lucky.
I guess my questions is this? What happens to the people who did follow the rules and paid the fees?
I used to work for a landscaping company when I was back in college. The guys I worked with were all illegal, but I can see why my boss hired them. It wasn’t the pay we all got the same pay about 12 bucks an hour. Witch for me was awesome.
The reason we were hired was we worked hard we took our job seriously and we didn’t bitch. I think with American workers you also get a since of entitlement that comes along with them.
If they don’t get their full half-hour lunch one-day you hear them bitch or they want something in return.
I think the foreigners appreciate the opportunity to work and bitch a lot less. I also worked with an All-American group that was a union and was told to slow my work and take more brakes or I would be fired.
No one is taking the jobs from US citizens they either don’t want the hard work or don’t need it.
My boss at the time hired me on the spot he was trilled to have a worker who spoke the language. I am sure if there were an American who wanted the job they would have been first pick.
As per Immigration I don’t know what the answer is. I applied for my green card threw my mother when I was 9 I became a citizen last year. My green card took 11.9 years. Immigration has a way taking their time. Usually when they say something will take 3 years it will take 6 if you’re lucky.
I guess my questions is this? What happens to the people who did follow the rules and paid the fees?
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
ROK 0
The thought of banks providing loans to illegals makes me ask a few questions.
1. Who pays when they default?
2. Why would a bank who put me under a microscope, even with excellent credit, lend money to a high risk group (migratory) with little or no credit history?
3. Who pays when they default?
4. If employeers are using the tax identification numbers, and providing tax matches, workmen's comp, and social security charges, why would it hurt them if illegal immigration was stopped??
5. Who pays when they default?
I don't see large banks handing out the cash unless they are protected, and know that they are going to make a large amount of money in the deal.
1. Who pays when they default?
2. Why would a bank who put me under a microscope, even with excellent credit, lend money to a high risk group (migratory) with little or no credit history?
3. Who pays when they default?
4. If employeers are using the tax identification numbers, and providing tax matches, workmen's comp, and social security charges, why would it hurt them if illegal immigration was stopped??
5. Who pays when they default?
I don't see large banks handing out the cash unless they are protected, and know that they are going to make a large amount of money in the deal.
It may have taken all those years but, you got it! To answer your question about what happens to those who follow the rules? They, like everyone else, legal or illegal, blend-in to our society. By the way, congratulations on becoming a citizen and having the patience to 'do it right'.
Chuck
Chuck
Darius11 12
QuoteIt may have taken all those years but, you got it! To answer your question about what happens to those who follow the rules? They, like everyone else, legal or illegal, blend-in to our society. By the way, congratulations on becoming a citizen and having the patience to 'do it right'.
Chuck
It was Definitely worth the wait.
I was wondering if they make the current illegals legal will that effect the ones who are in the system and waiting for green cards, and citizenship.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
kallend 1,623
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I guess my questions is this? What happens to the people who did follow the rules and paid the fees?
I followed the rules, paid the fees, and got my green card in 1979. The delays were interminable. The lines at the INS office were awesome. "NO we don't make appointments, just come and stand in line for 7 hours". Even people who just came to pick up a form had to wait in the same line as people there to see an immigration officer; "No we don't mail out forms. No we don't put the forms out on display where you can just take one."
INS had to be the worst run bureacracy in US history.
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I guess my questions is this? What happens to the people who did follow the rules and paid the fees?
I followed the rules, paid the fees, and got my green card in 1979. The delays were interminable. The lines at the INS office were awesome. "NO we don't make appointments, just come and stand in line for 7 hours". Even people who just came to pick up a form had to wait in the same line as people there to see an immigration officer; "No we don't mail out forms. No we don't put the forms out on display where you can just take one."
INS had to be the worst run bureacracy in US history.
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I was told as a kid growing up. Good things come to those who wait. I hope, it's worked-out in your favor. Congratulations to you, too.
Have you ever seen the Immigration and Nationality law books for the I&Ns? ...and the laws change almost daily!
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One thing about governments of any kind... they don't seem to make it easy for the general population. Chuck
billvon 2,400
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>Bill what do you think will happen when 49% of mexico's
>citizens come here ?
Legally? They would get jobs, you'd see a boom in construction. Unemployment would go up. The military would suddenly have no problem at all attracting recruits. Some people would hate them. And in 30 years, they will be as american as you or I. A mexican may well be our next JFK, or Martin Luther King, or Thomas Edison, or Madonna.
When my grandparents came here they were not welcome. "Irish need not apply," read all the papers. But the country survived. It will survive this as well. Heck, compared to our population now, we are seeing a far smaller percentage of immigrants (even if you count the illegal ones.) 4.7 million Irish came over between 1820 and 1940.
>citizens come here ?
Legally? They would get jobs, you'd see a boom in construction. Unemployment would go up. The military would suddenly have no problem at all attracting recruits. Some people would hate them. And in 30 years, they will be as american as you or I. A mexican may well be our next JFK, or Martin Luther King, or Thomas Edison, or Madonna.
When my grandparents came here they were not welcome. "Irish need not apply," read all the papers. But the country survived. It will survive this as well. Heck, compared to our population now, we are seeing a far smaller percentage of immigrants (even if you count the illegal ones.) 4.7 million Irish came over between 1820 and 1940.
billvon 2,400
>What I want to know is, with all those mortgages and housing to
>be built... who's going to feed them?
Von's. Which will mean they need more produce. Which will mean more farming. And those farms will need more labor. Where will they get this labor? Hmmmm . . . .
>What about the loss of farm and ranchland we are facing at the rate
>of thousands of acres being lost to 'expansion'?
More farms will open. The value of farmland will go up; this will deter developers from using farmland as opposed to undeveloped land. Developers will instead choose unimproved property.
>All those folks are thinking about is the money they are going to
>put in their pocket.
Which makes them perfectly suited to be americans.
>be built... who's going to feed them?
Von's. Which will mean they need more produce. Which will mean more farming. And those farms will need more labor. Where will they get this labor? Hmmmm . . . .
>What about the loss of farm and ranchland we are facing at the rate
>of thousands of acres being lost to 'expansion'?
More farms will open. The value of farmland will go up; this will deter developers from using farmland as opposed to undeveloped land. Developers will instead choose unimproved property.
>All those folks are thinking about is the money they are going to
>put in their pocket.
Which makes them perfectly suited to be americans.
Chuck
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