Gawain 0 #51 March 20, 2003 QuoteBest wishes to our (and our allies') service men and women. CNN reporting that the strike was a cruise missle strike upon a "Target of Opportunity". To take this on a little tangent, it is being reported that the cruise missle attack was a "decapitation" attempt. There is little hope that it achieved its goal, but what I must now ask is, "What if?" What if we got him? How might that guide the conflict and the rebuilding of the powerbase in Iraq? Chances are remote (which is an overstatement in itself), but what if???So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #52 March 20, 2003 >That is totally different than a governeing body. Furthermore, the is a > difference between acting without approval and acting directly against >a UN resolution. We purposely manipulated the UN (i.e. withdrew the resolution) so as to avoid a no vote. There was effectively a no vote; we said as much. That's playing a game, the same sort of game we claim to not tolerate from other countries. We should decide if we want to support the UN or not, and then act that way. As it is, we seem to support the UN only when they do exactly as we wish. We use our veto with impunity then vilify other countries when they even threaten to use theirs. We want war criminals prosecuted but refuse to sign a treaty to support their prosecution. So either in our out. Sick of the UN? Stop with all the "but he's disobeying the UN! We must attack!" nonsense. Iraq has no more obligation than we do in that case. Want to support the UN? Accept its authority to broker peace, even when you disagree with some of its decisions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #53 March 20, 2003 so movie quotes are now off limits?-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #54 March 20, 2003 Quote I understand that you're all exited now with all the testosterone in the air but ask around if this is a battle you'd like to fight. With who? You? That's a joke right...???!!! So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #55 March 20, 2003 Love to the entire world...that's all I can say.... Love to our troops, love to the civilians of Iraq, love to all of you here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #56 March 20, 2003 Agreed, been sick of the UN for years. We are attacking him because of what we know. I could care less what the UN knows. Is that PC? No. COuld we openly admit that? No. Has it saved the world from tyrants before? Yes, yes, and yes. We are not exactly a small fish.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 4 #57 March 20, 2003 Quote so movie quotes are now off limits? It's not like you said: "Play it again, Sam" Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sillyolethang 0 #58 March 20, 2003 Pretty darn sad that this is somewhat a joke to you.... There are thousands of people putting their lives on the line for things some may not understand or agree with but they ARE there and deserve our support! May this be swift and may all of them be blessed. Amy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #59 March 20, 2003 Point taken. I am calling it quits on this forum for tonight. Yall have fun. The war has begun. Glad to be an American Glad to have voted for Bush Glad to have all the damn good people that we know and love serving us here and abroad at this moment, they are doing a noble job by the act of serving. Out of curiousity...who thinks that an effort to eliminate in the very first strike of the war was peaceful accomplishing the greatest good?-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #60 March 20, 2003 It would have to be a good thing. As Iraq is ruled by tyranny there will be little individual initiative for fear of upsettng the boss. So do we wait for the boss to tell us what to do? Therefore major inactivity or uncoordinated response which would then be ineffective. Hopefully it'll pretty much be decided before here can be a coordinated response. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 144 #61 March 20, 2003 I agree - drop the double standards and bullshit about the Iraq war. It is not about the UN, it is not about National threats (to the UK/USA), and its not about terrorism! I don't know what it is about though I heard a hypothosis once that the west needs to trial weapons developments about every 10 years, and to "train" new generals - i.e. you can't have a head of military who is not a veteran - this viewpoint makes the most sense to me at this point in time Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #62 March 20, 2003 Whether you like the war or not, whether you believe it is right or not, whether you are from the US or elsewhere I think we can all say we wish our troops well. Come home safe. I pray that the loss of life on all sides will be minimal. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shabakazaa 0 #63 March 20, 2003 I am not quoting the previous poster... Just responding (yes, I am an ignoramous). To all of those who have their shit in the sand... keep your head low. Ladies and Gentlemen, be swift, be silent and be deadly. Come home safe. Some of us love you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #64 March 20, 2003 All of you liberals make it sound like we are attacking the people and trying to wipe them out. LOL WTF ? This is to get Saddam out of there and set up something where they can live with some freedom ! Wake up and see the light people !! Jeez. BTW... when did the UN become the world's government ? http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #65 March 20, 2003 pipe. It's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #66 March 20, 2003 pipe. It's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #67 March 20, 2003 pipe. It's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shabakazaa 0 #68 March 20, 2003 By The Way, Billvon, you have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen post, anywhere. What? Are you from California? Wait. NO excuse. You must be roughly 35 years old, and a fucking liberal shitball to boot. Good luck in life, asshole. Shabakazaa is now banned because of a liberal shitball... Welcome Home... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #69 March 20, 2003 Quote "Noble"? Abandoning diplomacy You are .. Diplomacy didn't work where military confrontation was concerned. All the hardships you mention are because of Sadham not because of us. Get real. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #70 March 20, 2003 Quote Therefore: I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elder berries. bwahahahahahahahahahaha!! LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #71 March 20, 2003 QuoteBy The Way, Billvon, you have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen post, anywhere. What? Are you from California? Wait. NO excuse. You must be roughly 35 years old, and a fucking liberal shitball to boot. Good luck in life, asshole. Hot fork is coming.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #72 March 20, 2003 Well after sleeping and revisiting this thread, I am further amazed at the pure dipllmatic genious that has been exhibited.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,139 #73 March 20, 2003 QuoteI guess wishing the best for a what can come from a situation like this would be too much to ask of our statesmen neighbors to the north. As one of your neighbours from the north, I am saddened by the remarks made by our Prime Minister ( I am further saddened by the fact that the Iraqi Information Minister speaks better English than him, but that is beside the point). Whatever Chretien might be saying, we are replacing most US troops in Afghanistan to free them for the war in Iraq, we have Canadian soldiers fighting under US command and we have Navy Ships running general security patrol in the area. On one side he is saying we do not agree, on the other side we are certainly aiding the effort. Personally I think Chretien is an idiot. I hope this war is swift and all involved come home safe....... edited for spelling, grammar etc..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #74 March 20, 2003 Quote I am further saddened by the fact that the Iraqi Information Minister speaks better English than him, Well, we in the USA know exactly how that feels! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #75 March 20, 2003 More ordinance in the air at this moment. Looks like a long night for the Iraqis.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
