j0nes 0 #1 August 29, 2005 You're under canopy and experience a collision with another jumper. You sustain injuries and rack up some high medical bills, your equipment is damaged and you miss time from work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 August 29, 2005 If you sue, you're a jackass and should be ostracized from the sport. JMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #3 August 29, 2005 Wouldn;t sue at all, Accidents do happen, ANYONE can make them. That means i could do exactly that and accidentally collide (although ill do my bloody best to avoid a collision), so it would be totally unfair to sue of something we are all fallible of doing edited to add - when i mentioned DELIBERATE, i was referring to pressing criminal charges against the jumper concerned, not the DZ - although that would be veyr rare and would have to involve someone coming at me with a chainsaw and trying to cut down in midair - point being - wouldn;t happen. But unless that alien circumsatnce happaned at all, i wouldn;t sue even whether it was negligence or lack of care.And certainyl not in an accident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #4 August 29, 2005 QuoteIf you sue, you're a jackass and should be ostracized from the sport. JMO. a lot of people share your opinion, but i recently overheard a conversion that brought this poll to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #5 August 29, 2005 Real skydivers don't sue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 August 29, 2005 QuoteReal skydivers don't sue. _________________________________________ That's the truth! Real Skydivers know the risks and have the spine to accept responsibility for their actions. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #7 August 29, 2005 Here we go, another hornet's nest, ah what the hell, i'll play To add to what Lisa said, real skydivers realise the risk that they're undertaking when they get involved in the sport, have explained the dangers to their loved ones and have signed the DZ waiver. So no, they don't sue. I'm sure you'll find that this will be the opinion of most, if not all of us here. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #8 August 29, 2005 QuoteQuoteReal skydivers don't sue. _________________________________________ That's the truth! Real Skydivers know the risks and have the spine to accept responsibility for their actions. Ah, ya beat me to it MR! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #9 August 29, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteReal skydivers don't sue. _________________________________________ That's the truth! Real Skydivers know the risks and have the spine to accept responsibility for their actions. Ah, ya beat me to it MR! _________________________ sorry It's all good! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #10 August 29, 2005 Whatever happened with that one suit? Basically, just what he described and the one guy sued the other....it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #11 August 29, 2005 Even if you could prove negligence, malice or obvious recklessness, its a hard sell. In the case of malice- say a deliberate attack- IF you could prove it, it would be a criminal matter. no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #12 August 29, 2005 What about you? Would you sue? edited to add - moreover it would also be unfiar to sue because it would reck the DZ business - the Owner and clubjumpers and the DZ would all suffer from a case - when you sign the waiver, you agreee not to sue as a kind of "thankyou for letting me jump here - its a privelegeand i understand what youre risking by letting me do so". Going back on that is breaking a promise to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 August 29, 2005 QuoteReal skydivers don't sue. What she said. And... they have conversations with their families to make sure that they get it and that they don't sue, either."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 August 29, 2005 Dont sue, wont sue.. Also wont put money into the pocket of ambulance chasers (worst kind of lawyer IMHO). (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tumbler 0 #15 August 29, 2005 I would only sue you j0nes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumprunner 0 #16 August 29, 2005 QuoteYou're under canopy and experience a collision with another jumper. You sustain injuries and rack up some high medical bills, your equipment is damaged and you miss time from work. You can sue for anything whether or not there is a waiver. Sueing means filing a lawsuit against another party, whether you win it or not is another story. After signing a waiver any lawsuit like that would hold no ground. The kind of lawsuits at dropzones that would hold ground is if someone intentionally sabotaged someones rig, which would also be a criminal offense. Like what happened in the UK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #17 August 29, 2005 I would only sue if the person that hit me was experiencing air rage and attacked me on purpose for going to slow in the fast lane. Or maybe if they whipped out a glock and started shooting at me under canopy and smacked into me because they only had one hand on the toggles. Air rage is real people! It must be stopped! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #18 August 29, 2005 This may be the situation you are referring to: http://www.dropzone.com/news/SkydiverWinsLawsuitAgain.shtml"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diversgodown 0 #19 August 29, 2005 What is a "SUE" I am having trouble computing this word. If it is female you think her opinion might count on this matter. ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #20 August 29, 2005 that's the one - thanks. wow, that was 5 years ago?! I'm getting old...it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #21 August 29, 2005 QuoteI would only sue if the person that hit me was experiencing air rage and attacked me on purpose for going to slow in the fast lane. Or maybe if they whipped out a glock and started shooting at me under canopy and smacked into me because they only had one hand on the toggles. Air rage is real people! It must be stopped! Thanks Shannon. Grapefruit juice on my new laptop!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 August 29, 2005 QuoteI would only sue if the person that hit me was experiencing air rage and attacked me on purpose for going to slow in the fast lane. Or maybe if they whipped out a glock and started shooting at me under canopy and smacked into me because they only had one hand on the toggles. And there is that grey line - at what point does our general support for live and accept it go out the window? If some guy was kicked off 3 DZs for being stupid in traffic and then visits your DZ to clip you, do you still write it off as tough shit? Until it happens, hard to honestly write off the 1% scenarios. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #23 August 29, 2005 QuoteQuoteI would only sue if the person that hit me was experiencing air rage and attacked me on purpose for going to slow in the fast lane. Or maybe if they whipped out a glock and started shooting at me under canopy and smacked into me because they only had one hand on the toggles. And there is that grey line - at what point does our general support for live and accept it go out the window? If some guy was kicked off 3 DZs for being stupid in traffic and then visits your DZ to clip you, do you still write it off as tough shit? Until it happens, hard to honestly write off the 1% scenarios. That's a really good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #24 August 29, 2005 QuoteAir rage is real people! It must be stopped! It is! Why, just today, we're presented with incontrovertible evidence from your very own dropzone! http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1803228"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #25 August 29, 2005 See? I told you! Jason's been known to suffer from air rage! He's not actually smiling. He's grinding his teeth and snarling! I bet he snapped at her and tried to take a nip of skin off her back! I can see the Byron hate is going strong. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites