Spaceland vs Hurricane Rita

[mattmais 0]

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I don't know if it was posted before, I'll post it now. Fill every bathtub with water. Ya never know when it will come in handy.

Wendy W.

A pub owner who rode out Katrina flushed his toilets with draft beer! Should I get a keg of Lonestar? Bath water might be better

[lisamariewillbe 1]

Please be safe everyone, our thoughts are with you.

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Stephen 0]

I've decided to take the otter and all my student and tandem equipment to Atlanta to ride out the storm. Good luck to everyone in Houston. Dowdy has my number if he needs a super otter at the Farm!!!!!!!!!
Steve Boyd

[lisamariewillbe 1]

DOWDY CALL CALL CALL CALL .... on a serious note

fly safe...

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Rebecca 0]

Good flight Steve - Hi to EZ and Stevie.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[polarglitch 0]

Headed down to galveston wanting to catch a glimpse of my old school before it disappeared, but we heard the roads were closed, traffic was at 7mph and the bridge to pelican island drawn so we turned back.

When you come close to losing your life, you learn to value it.
I jumped, I survived, I learnt.

[gemini 0]

Latest models show movement toward the East and away from Corpus Christi. Good for them, but bad for Houston/Galveston.

We're just about ready to run for the hills. Roads are still jammed at 12:15 AM. This looks like it will be a lot of fun!

Blue skies,

Jim

[polarglitch 0]

its gonna stay jammed. their moving out another batch of people from the bay areas and texas city at 2am according to the news. they also said u get directed where to go now. can anone clarify this?

When you come close to losing your life, you learn to value it.
I jumped, I survived, I learnt.

[namgrunt 0]

hay gemini

still got your dog tags??

stay safe ..think float ..float..swim




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59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT
LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI)
www.dzmemories.com

[Rebecca 0]

Um, any tips on transporting a nervous cat?

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[Slappie 9]

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Um, any tips on transporting a nervous cat?

Run from Floods, hide from winds.

Make sure she's in a cage is all I have to say.

"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them."

[Rebecca 0]

That's the problem...

One cage, too big...

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[gemini 0]

Dog tags are around here someplace. Change of plans! We are heading Southwest. There is no traffic in that direction since initially the hurricane was supposed to go into Matagorda which is down that way. We can get to Victoria or Wharton and head North from there.

All but 4 models are concentrated on the Houston/Galveston area now and still inching towards the East.

Blue skies,

Jim

[mnealtx 0]

Put a pillow in it to block off part of it....

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[namgrunt 0]

remember

1 tag on right boot
1 tag around neck

stay safe bro

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59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT
LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI)
www.dzmemories.com

[arlo 0]

if you mean the cat is too big for the cage, find a sturdy card board box and just cut holes in it. or if you have a hamper or clothes basket, try using that by zip tie-ing something over the opening. improvising is a good thing....

does this mean you're leaving?

[Rebecca 0]

My MacGuyver created a rather stylish carrier out of a wine crate, which fits her plush little bed, and he drilled nicely spaced holes in the top and sides. He's so cool.
We're preparing for all options at this point. Rita's moving, and won't make landfall until tomorrow night. The lovely people with the DOT are working on counterflowing I-10, which would ease travel to San Antonio considerably. I've filled my gas tank and stocked up on water and food. We also have several in-town shelter options which are sturdier than this house.

I was FREAKING OUT last night, but now I'm chill, just preparing to roll with all the punches. At the moment, gridlock is this city's biggest issue, and I'm not in hurry to get myself stuck in the middle of it...

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[BillyVance 34]

Why take the interstate highways with everybody else? If you have a map and a good knowledge of the lesser traveled roads, you might get to where you want to go faster... just FYI.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Rebecca 0]

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Why take the interstate highways with everybody else? If you have a map and a good knowledge of the lesser traveled roads, you might get to where you want to go faster... just FYI.

My dad and his killer map skills are on it - got a route picked out already...

Thanks!

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[rgoetsch 0]

When we moved cross country I did not put my cat in a cage. If you can get to a Petco or something get a cat/small dog harness and a light weight leash. I just had her free in the car but was able to contain her when I stopped for gas or something by tieing the leash to something. I had my husband to help as well- if you hae a passenger this could work for you. My cat was a lot happier sitting on my shoulders looking out the window for 27 hours than she had ever been on short trips in the crate.

Just use caution- cats can squirm out of the harness even when you think it is too tight- and dont leave them unsupervised in the harness/leash. Also- keep a roll of paper towels in case it pukes...i did not have that problem but it is better to be prepared. :)
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Um, any tips on transporting a nervous cat? UnimpressedUnsure

"If you're not on the centerline -you're out of control"

[JohnRich 4]

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its gonna stay jammed. they also said u get directed where to go now. can anone clarify this?

I saw on the news that they have closed off many freeway exits, to force drivers to be funnelled north only. They literally won't let you get off on side roads.

This is bullshit in my opinion.

Moo like cattle, because that's all they think we are, incapable of making our own decisions or doing something different.

[StreetScooby 5]

For those that are going to ride the storm out, you may find this article interesting:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3046592


Models show 'massive devastation' in Houston

Houston's perfect storm would feed on late summer's warm waters as it barreled northward across the Gulf of Mexico, slamming into the coast near Freeport.

A landfall here would allow its powerful upper-right quadrant, where the waves move in the same direction as the storm, to overflow Galveston Bay. Within an hour or two, a storm surge, topping out at 20 feet or more, would flood the homes of 600,000 people in Harris County. The surge also would block the natural drainage of flooded inland bayous and streams for a day or more.

Coastal residents who ignored warnings to flee would have no hope of escape as waters swelled and winds roiled around their homes. Very likely, hundreds, perhaps even thousands, would die.

Meanwhile, as the storm moved over western Harris County, its most dangerous winds, well in excess of 120 mph even inland, would lash the Interstate 45 corridor, including Clear Lake, the Texas Medical Center and downtown.

Many older buildings could not withstand such winds.

Anything not tied down, from trees to mobile homes to light poles, would become missiles, surreally tumbling and flying through the air, flattening small houses, shattering skyscraper windows and puncturing roofs.

"Unfortunately, we're looking at massive devastation," said Roy Dodson, president of the engineering firm Dodson & Associates, which Harris County asked to model realistic "worst-case scenarios" for a major hurricane hitting the area.

Dodson's firm modeled more than 100 storms of varying power, speed and landfall. It concluded that a large Category 4 or Category 5 -- a storm only moderately larger than the four that struck Florida last summer -- would cause as much as $40 billion to $50 billion in damage. That's 10 times the cost of Tropical Storm Allison and approximately the city of Houston's entire budget for the next 15 years.

And this wasn't an academic exercise. Of the 17 Category 4 and Category 5 storms that have struck the United States since 1900, three, all Category 4 storms, have hit the Greater Houston area -- unnamed storms in 1900 and 1915 and Carla in 1961.

Coastal development

With considerable coastal development since then and lower elevations because of groundwater pumping, no one knows what will happen when a major storm hits. But what's clear is that models of a hurricane's three modes of destruction -- winds, storm surge and inland flooding from heavy rainfall -- offer little comfort.

With sustained winds between 131 mph and 155 mph, the power of a Category 4 storm exceeds that of most building codes.

Houston's commercial building rules call for structures to withstand three-second bursts of at least 110 mph, said Dennis Wittry, managing director of Houston Structural Operations at Walter P. Moore, an engineering firm.

Newer skyscrapers, including many built during Houston's downtown boom in the '80s, were modeled in wind tunnels to determine their performance in extreme weather events. Most should survive the storm, Wittry said. And the downtown window loss like that experienced during Hurricane Alicia, a Category 3 storm that struck in 1983, actually could be less in a bigger storm.

That's because roofs that were then anchored by gravel -- which become bullets in high winds -- are now held down by specialized concrete that should not blow off, Wittry said.

Residential homes, built with less exacting standards and lesser materials, would fare worse.

"You'll definitely see more significant damage in residential construction," he said. "Lower-end homes, or some homes in older areas, would probably be completely destroyed."

Tie-downs, a structural device that prevents wind blowing over a structure, creating a vortex and sucking off the roof, have been mandatory only since the late 1980s, Wittry said.

Various studies of a large storm hitting the Houston area have estimated that 100,000 to 125,000 homes would be destroyed.

20-foot wall of water

More devastation would be caused by winds blowing over the Gulf of Mexico and pushing surface water inland -- creating up to a 20-foot storm surge. Such a wall of water would swamp most development near Galveston Bay, including Texas City, Kemah and Johnson Space Center. Varying levels of water would flood much of the area between Sam Houston Parkway and the bay.

On Galveston Island, the seawall could hold back much of the storm surge, but at some point the water would creep onto the island from the bay side. The island's highest point is just 22 feet above sea level.

Much like a river becomes deeper and more turbulent when it narrows, a storm surge also can increase in height and intensity when its source of water narrows. Dodson said this has profound implications for the Port of Houston. Some models ended with a 30-foot wall of water in the Ship Channel near the port's turning basin, he said. "It would be huge," he said. "It could overwhelm chemical storage facilities, water treatment plants and other sensitive areas."

The port's severe-weather plan calls for most cargo ships to exit the facility and weather the storm at sea in preparation for the possibility of flooded buildings.

Wave modeling

Another, perhaps even-now-unanticipated effect is large waves accompanying the storm surge.

A waves expert at Texas A&M University at Galveston, Vijay Panchang, said he and colleagues were surprised when they observed wave data associated with Hurricane Ivan shortly before it slammed into Alabama last September.

A wave-measuring buoy about 60 miles south of Dauphin Island, before it snapped, registered an average wave height of about 50 feet, Panchang said. That means the biggest waves were a staggering 100 feet tall. Such wave heights, according to his modeling, should only occur every 300 years or so.

Either Ivan's waves were a freak event, or hurricane forecasters may need to adjust their wave expectations for large storms in the warm Gulf waters.

"This is from a storm that hit only a few hundred miles to the east of us," he said. "There's nothing to say that another storm won't create really big waves for us."

These large waves caused by Ivan may have been as responsible, if not more so, than the storm surge for severely damaging the I-10 bridge bear Pensacola, Fla., Panchang said.

Surprises after landfall

Engineers and forecasters say the most unpredictable element of a storm comes after landfall, when it either dumps rain and floods creeks and bayous or moves quickly enough that relatively little rain falls.

Tropical Storm Allison probably isn't a good model for what to expect. The system was so poorly organized and slow moving that some hurricane forecasters say it wasn't a tropical storm. In some areas of the city, enough rain fell to classify Allison as a 10,000-year rainfall event. Still, because a large hurricane's storm surge likely would block the flow of bayou waters into Galveston Bay, any significant rainfall could back up into inland streets and homes quickly, Dodson said.

The last major hurricane most Houston residents remember was Alicia, which made landfall on the west end of Galveston Island in August 1983.

Unfortunately, planners say, as devastating as that storm was, it's a poor predictor of what to expect from a larger, Category 4 or bigger storm.

Alicia's highest sustained winds on land were measured at 96 mph. Most of the Greater Houston area received just 5 inches of rain. Storm surges across much of the area were less than 10 feet, although Seabrook measured 12 feet.

The storm spawned 23 tornadoes, killed 21 people and destroyed 2,300 homes.

"Alicia was a marginal Category 3," Dodson said. "Its rainfall doesn't come close to this area's top 20 historical floods.

"I guess what I'm saying is that I hope people don't ignore evacuation warnings because they remember that things weren't apocalyptic during Alicia."


Know where your nearest "new building" shelter is, and don't wait until your street is flooded to try and get there.

Good luck to everyone staying in Houston.

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